Clinton/Edwards/Obama supporters: Would you switch you preference to Gore if he got in? MORE VOTES!

[Perky]

Trying to measure how strong support is for the top tier guys if Gore jumped in.

I assume there would be some defections.

[HereSince1628]

1. No

[Swamp Rat]

2. Al Gore and Anybody Else 2008. n/t

[mikelgb]

3. Even Lieberman?

[Swamp Rat]

8. He's not human and therefore does not count.

:D

[mikelgb]

11. yeah joe was neo-con plan-b in 00

[Greyskye]

4. Gore/Clark

Our two best non-candidates!

[Buck Rabbit]

5. Hy heart is with Feingold and Kucinich, my head is with Gore.

My fear is that anyone but Gore might well lose to the Republicans. I find that unacceptable, so I pray to Raballah, peace be upon him, the creator of all Rabbit kind, that he makes Al run.

[tom_paine]

6. K & R

[Warpy]

7. Maybe, maybe not

I'd have to see what sort of organization he had, whether or not he was going to be packaged as another business as usual, don't rock the boat candidate and turn voters off in a second election. I think he's already got an organization and I do think he learned a very few harsh lessions in his DLC led campaign in 2000, but I want to see the proof of that.

I have no idea who I'm voting for in the primary. I like Edwards for his stand on economic issues. I like Richardson for his experience and for the fact that he turned what started as a DLC governorship around into a truly progressive one. I like Obama for his energy and oratory. Kucinich is the only one with a workable health care plan, although his weakness on choice issues rules him out for me. Biden has a great deal of organized labor support and he's still a contender. Dodd turned me off with his appeal for sacrifice. Uh, Chris, wrong class to ask for sacrifices. It's THEIR turn. We've been sacrificing all our lives. Even Clinton is ten times as good as any of the Republic offerings.

An Al Gore who learned from 2000 and came out swinging with all he had would be a very attractive candidate, I have to admit, even if I didn't agree with him on a lot of issues. I gave up on perfection years ago.

This is a strong field of candidates and Gore would make it stronger. I'll just have to wait and see how strong.

[Horse with no Name]

9. I have the greatest admiration for you Warpy

can you tell me how you reconciled the voting issue with Richardson? I still cannot forgive that...and I hate to think that if he got the nomination, I would seriously not want to vote.

[Warpy]

16. He seems to have had an epiphany somewhere along the line

and I hope he read my stuff in DU savaging him as part of it.

Quite possibly he wanted to move on and not get bogged down in something our 5 measly electoral votes wouldn't have much of an effect on. After all, the cases over the massive fraud are still in the courts, as far as I know. He did sign a law with much fanfare going to 100% paper Optiscan ballots, still counted with iffy machinery but able to be assembled for a hand count if somebody blows a whistle again. Getting into those Sequoia machines would have required a long and expensive court battle.

What I do know is that he is looking like a progressive in this state, getting commuter rail going over the howls of people who have never experienced it before and don't get it (ridership is UP even on the limited service as gas prices rise), ending the regressive tax on food, signing the medical pot bill, and doing a few other things that gobsmacked me after his first dismal couple of years in office.

I'm a lefty. I believe in change. He really does seem to have gotten away from all the conditioning he received in his many years in DC. He may still be a member of the DLC, but he'll shake them the hell up if he continues on the way he's been going.

[MrSlayer]

10. I would only take Clark above Gore.

So, no. But if Clark never does get in and Gore does, Gore is definitely my guy. Gore/Clark would be an unbeatable ticket.

[JDPriestly]

12. Woops! I like Edwards but would switch.

I voted that I liked one of the other guys. I have just ruined the poll. Sorry.

[peace frog]

13. Gore/Obama

Unbeatable. The GOPers should give up already, it's over!

[JackCo]

14. I love Kucinich

I'm a realist and know Kucinich will not win the primary but I'm still voting for him. However if Gore jumps in I will vote for him to hopefully put him front.

[Webster Green]

15. Gore is the only one who could get me to switch from Kucinich..

Hope he gets in the race!

[Penndems]

17. I love, respect and admire former Vice President Gore, but it's time for new blood

Former Senator Edwards is my candidate of choice.

[LWolf]

26. Er....Edwards has held office and campaigned more recently

than Gore.

Neither are "new blood."

"New blood" would be someone who has never run for the presidential nomination. HRC fits that, although I wouldn't exactly call her "new blood." She's the dynasty ticket.

Obama fits "new blood." I just don't like him. All the fresh blood in the world won't overcome his drawbacks.

While I don't particularly care for some of his stances on issues, I'd say Richardson is the strongest "new blood" in the pack.

It isn't "new blood" that will decide me. It's strength on issues. That goes to DK. I don't know what I'll do if Gore enters. That would be a really tough choice. I'd probably stick with DK, and hope that Gore pulled the "top tier" voters. I would gladly support Gore in the general election, which is more than I can say for the other 3.

[etherealtruth]

18. I really like Edwards ...

I would probably switch to :loveya:Gore:loveya: ... but it wouldn't be "in a heartbeat" ... it would actually pose a difficult choice for me.

[Pastiche423]

19. Does this poll help you understand

the responses you got in your "I don't want Gore to run" thread?


Al Gore, all the way!

[Perky]

24. Of course it does

I thorougkly expected to be hammered by Gore supporters who are rabid...which is perfectly fine. I eepected that Gore supporters would quickly jump on the bandwagon on this poll too. That is why I attempted to isolate them by the first option.


What I was curious about was how hardened support was for other candidates. It is certainly an unscientific poll and proabbly not enough to responsed to draw any conclusion.

What do you think?

[Pastiche423]

25. 1st I think that Gore supporters are not "rabid"

2nd, I think Gore has proven himself a leader that truly gets what has and is going on in this country. Have you read Assault on Reason yet?

If not, that book will answer many questions you may have about Gore and why so many people admire and respect his integrity and vision.

[Perky]

27. Rabid was not meant pejoratively at all

My concern only goes to he health of the party rolling into the General election.


Both parties pushed back the conventions until around LAbor day so that the presumptive could collect more money before the federal funding kicked in. which is smart....but then the states all started playing leapfrog on primary dates. The means IMHO that the chance of there being a nominees-presumptive in early February is at best a 30% chance. So it is going to be cutthroat fund raising all the way to the convention rather than the party coalescing around one person and all the available dollars going. in one direction.

It is bad enough with three candidates a fourth in my mind be it Gore or somebody else getting into the top tier is just going to be ugly.

I wish it were not so...


My honest opinion of Gore is that he would really hurt Clinton the most. If she is at 25% she would give up about 8 to ten percent.

Edwards would lose about 5% to 8% and Obama would lose about 5%. But it depends on the stater and I think all four would average around 20%. For someone to get to 30% they would have to take all of the lower tier. That will never happen

Richardson is locked at about 8% and none of the other guys will be completely abandoned by their faithful...So if you give the other guys a token 1% each. That leave 8%.

The Most anyone has a chance to get is 28% or so +/- 5% in any given state.


Unless people start blowing up......no one is going to be the presumptive nominee.

[Pastiche423]

28. It is difficult to get my brain around your way of thinking

The primaries are the time when voters decide who they would like for the nom of their party.

What does Al Gore have to do w/other candidate's fundraising? (Besides quite a number of people are holding out waiting for Gore to announce.)

In the 2004 primary, there were eight candidates running. How is that different than this one?

[Perky]

29. The huge difference is that there are

currently 3 strong candidates with huge war chests.

On the fundraising question whether there are three or four..... the money will be used duirng the primary season rather than the general election and the poolo of new donors is limited.

[Pastiche423]

30. So you're concerned about money?

Do you think whoever has the largest war chest wins?

Sorry, if I'm way off. I still don't understand your point.

[Adelante]

20. CLARK

then Gore. I wouldn't really be defecting if Wes stays out.

[TahitiNut]

21. The FIRST primary is EIGHT months from now.

PLEASE ... would it not be reasonable to at least include "not decided" in these never-ending polls? Jesus! I don't know for sure where I'll even be living next year, let alone which candidate I'll be supporting. Right now, Kucinich is, by FAR, the candidate who best represents my values and interests. For all I know, I'll be writing in his name in the General Election ... especially considering the clay feet and political cowardice I see on DU.

But THAT'S a matter of issues ... not a "decided" position. I haven't the foggiest of ideas how GOre would come out on the issues if he declared his candidacy. One thing's for sure: if he chose Lieberman on the ticket he'd NOT get my vote. No way. No how.

There sure seem to be a lot of people willing to buy a (illusory) pig in a (well-woven) poke these days!

[Buck Rabbit]

22. Hmmm, as a pork buyer, I think the poke is more loosely woven than you suggest.

I half-heartedly voted for Gore in 2000. Even if his stand on issues remains the same as those I half-heartedly supported then, I would enthusiastically support him this time as our only candidate that has successfully demonstrated that he can win. I am tired of Republicans in control.

He appears to have evolved and shifted more to the left while out of office and not for political expediency, but because he could. If this is indeed the case it would just be a nice bonus.

Anyway, like you said, it is a long time until the votes are counted so I thought I would take this opportunity to respond to you, even though it is in disagreement, as you are one of my long time favorite posters to read here on DU.


(edited: cause that red underline of words by spell checker shouldn't always be ignored)

[Penndems]

23. So true - Eight months to a year is a lifetime in politics, and anything can happen

At this stage of the game, John Edwards is my candidate. If he wins the primaries and accepts the nomination, obviously I will continue to support him.

If he should lose, however, I will join my fellow Democrats and work hard to get our nominee elected the next President.

:) :patriot:

[Jed Dilligan]

31. He's the last candidate I voted FOR

In 2004 I was only voting AGAINST Bush. Kerry did not impress me the way Gore did.

[BenDavid]

32. I be glad when this campaign is

over and all you Gore people will begin to stratch your heads and wonder where the hell was Al. Yes, we all wanna know where Al was in 2000. He did not fight to win. Same as Kerry in 04.
I do not mind all these posts about folks wishing that Gore would get into the race, but it reminds me so much of a line in Braveheart, "just when we thought all hope was lost our noble saviour(s) have arrived." Gore is no saviour. Gore will not win even if he gets in. Tell me and be truthful: Is Gore going to get the African American vote? I say NO! Why, because he did not give a damn about them post election. So there you have the election swinging right in most states he would carry....Only 2 candidates will carry the African American vote and those 2 are HRC and Obama....but Obama will not win either....Did Gore really fight for it in 2000? No! He bought into the right wing about using Bill Clinton. The man at the time of the election was polling 65 to 73% throughout the country but Gore did not use the Big Dawg and Gore lost an election he should have won. Same as Kerry in 04. He did not fight. He took the swift boating but HRC will not be swift boated. Why do I know that, because the Big Dawg said "Hillary will never let a swift-boat-style attack go unanswered."
If you all that support another candidate and have bought into the right wings point that she cannot win then you can be so easily mislead....Why do you think the right wing says she cannot wing? One is becasue they know she can win and second if they get HRC out of the way then who is left? uh huh Obama and who would the racist right wing love running aginst? uh huh Obama.
So to the HRC supporters that have heard the following,"Do we want 8 more years of Filegate, Travelgate, Blowjobs, etc?" the answer might be, "That's better than terror, invasions, torture, renditions and signing statements."

I do thank you
Ben David