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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:27 AM
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Black box voting, diebold??

There was a certain person who used to lead people to investigate fraudulent vote tabulation.

I personally believe this is the greatest threat to our democracy.

Is there a new place we can go to, to fight and make sure there is integrity in counting the votes of US citizens?

I don't see any info on black box voting on du any more

Where is it?

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:49 AM
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1. Try here:
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 04:45 AM
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2. Sadly, you're right. Everybody seems to have forgotten.
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 04:49 AM by Stevepol
This is THE BIG ISSUE. It's more important than any other. If we had had a democracy in 04, we would be out of Iraq by now. If we'd had a democracy in the elections of 02, we wd have had Cleland and Mondale as Dem senators and probably Strickland from CO and several others and we wd have had a Dem majority after that election and wd very possible never have invaded Iraq in the first place. Of course, if people had pushed hard enough against the criminal element in the Repub party and in the country as a whole, we wd have had Gore as president.

Now, we have vote counting that is being done by criminal organizations, totally in secret without verification, and nobody seems to be the least concerned.

Yet there's a group of folks over in the ERD forum who are still there, still posting articles, still trying to keep hope alive as Jesse Jackson has talked about. The more the merrier over there. More and more posts are getting maybe 4 recs and then they die at the forum site instead of making it to the big board.

Unfortunately, one of the results of the 06 landslide was that people forgot about the problem with the vote count. Actually, the 06 count was off more than the 04 count. If the count had been honest, Dems would have won even more seats in the House and Senate. Ck out Ron Baimon's site: www.eletiondefensealliance.org.

If nothing is done, there's really no way of predicting how the count will go. The polls are irrelevant. No matter how anomalous the results there are, nothing will get done it seems in ck-ing out the machines. After the next election, which will almost certainly be anomalous with another huge discrepancy between the alleged vote count and the pre-election and exit polls (and even that might not happen because the polling methods are I think being changed to acct for the odd fact that the Dems always poll much higher than the actual results in the elections) there will most likely be a great brouhaha of amazement and alarm until the MSM and their apologists dredge up a few "authorities" to allay the fears of everybody that we might not have the shining democracy that we are supposed to have. Of course, hopefully, and this is our only hope really, the vote will be so lopsided that no matter how heavy the thumb on the scales, the Dems are still able to win.

WHEN THE VOTE IS COUNTED IN TOTAL SECRECY WITHOUT VERIFICATION, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DEMOCRACY.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 08:40 AM
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3. I'm still reeling over this gem...
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