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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:09 AM
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Here's why Congress might realize it is powerless
Reading this, it occurred to me, maybe Congress knows they are already powerless? If they impeach the President, all he has to do is "determine" that there is a "catastrophic emergency."

All he has to do per this act is inform Congress of it.


The "Use of the Armed Forces" in America under a National Emergency
Unrestricted & Arbitrary Powers conferred to the President & Vice President


By Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, June 27, 2007


In October 2006, Bush signed into law the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, (also known under the title Department of Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007)

NDAA 07 includes specific provisions which allow the military to take control of normal policy and law enforcement functions at the Federal and State levels.

Sec. 1076 of the NDAA 07 overturns the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from intervening in the conduct of civilian government activities, including the conduct of Justice and Law Enforcement. Posse Comitatus has been central to the functioning of constitutional government. (It should be noted that other previous pieces of legislation have already invalidated the substance of Posse Comitatus).

What is significant in these specific provisions of NDAA 07 (Sec. 1076) is that they dovetail the provisions of Bush's National Security Presidential and Homeland Directive (NSPD 51, HSPD 20) enacted on May 9, 2007.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20070627&articleId=6169

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:10 AM
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1. Well what are they doing? Waiting to for the other shoe to drop?
IMPEACH NOW!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:10 AM
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2. cowards need no justification for their cowardice. doing the right thing is always better nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:14 AM
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3. But so they do that, then * declares a "catastrophic emergency"
Doesn't matter if there actually is one - the way this law is written, it is solely to be "determined" by the President. * can declare the floods in Texas, or any local storm, to create a "catastrophic emergency" and bring out the armed forces to quell any "insurgents."

Go read the sections, they are truly scary.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:47 AM
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5. Then we get to see who truly supports Bushco
Would the military actually accept orders from him, especially if it means that they fire on fellow citizens in support of a dictatorial coup? Would the citizens of this country rise and take it back from the hands of Bush? Would the other branches of government rise and oppose Bush to save our country? If this scenario you mention were to come to pass, then Congress wouldn't be facing Bushco alone, we all would have to do our part. It is our country and we can't expect Congress to do all of the work in that case. However this shouldn't deter Congress either in pursuing every legal remedy to rid ourselves of this man.

There was this same kind of worry when Nixon was getting impeached, except the worry then was whether he would drop the bomb, and should we risk him doing that in order to do the right thing. Congress went ahead and did the right thing, and as we found out later, behind the scenes the military was insuring that any nuclear orders that Nixon handed down were verified and true before being acted on. I imagine that some sort of similar arrangement would be arranged in the case of Bushco's demise.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:42 PM
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9. I hope so because, * is just crazy enough to drop the bomb
And his underlings support him regardless, unlike Nixon. They are just waiting to bring on Armageddon:

See http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062907J.shtml

This may all be much harder than we think.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:47 AM
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6. dupe, double post n/t
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 10:48 AM by MadHound

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:18 AM
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4. If he declares a "catastrophic emergency" when corpomedia
is pushing Paris Hilton fluff. . And the only "emergency" that people can see is that Congress (THEIR representatives) are trying to rein in the administration

HE LOSES!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:45 PM
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10. I'm just afraid of those idiots out there who say they "feel safer
under martial law" and they exist unfortunately. Hopefully not in that great of numbers.

I have no real opinion on the military, I know some of them would not go along with this, but power is exciting, and the less thoughtful ones could get swept along.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:49 AM
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7. This is why they have to impeach chaney and not moron*.
get rid of chaney everything else falls into place.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:01 AM
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8. Impeach cheney FIRST...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:46 PM
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11. Or both of them
But IA, getting rid of * alone does not do it, because that leaves Cheney there to take over, something he's been planning on since the Nixon Administration.
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