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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:08 AM
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London on high alert - Police discover a second, and possibly third, suspect vehicle.
London on high alert

http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3004&Itemid=204

Saturday, 30 June 2007 | Updated: 01:15

London car bomb investigation | AAP

Just hours after discovering a "massive" car bomb in London's West End, police have now
closed Park Lane to traffic after discovering a second, and possibly third, suspect vehicle.

The discovery of these vehicles has placed the city on high alert, while the manhunt for
the driver of the first abandoned car continues.

The initial vehicle was found after a member of the public rang police saying there was smoke
coming out of a car outside popular West End nightclub 'Tiger Tiger'.

The bomb squad were called in and found the car packed with gas cyclinders, petrol and nails.

Officers sealed off the area at around 2am (1100 AEST).

"They discovered what appeared to be a potentially viable explosive device" the Metropolitan police said.

They also added that counter-terrorism officers were investigating.

A security source said a link to al-Qaeda could not be ruled out.

Police maintain that they have foiled a major terror attack, and said if the bomb had gone off,
it could have caused "significant injury or loss of life".

The discovery came hours after new Prime Minister Gordon Brown named a cabinet to succeed Tony Blair's.

It posed a first major challenge for Brown's three-day-old administration, and particularly his
new home secretary, Jacqui Smith.

Smith told Sky News that the UK is "currently facing the most serious and sustained threat"
and authorities are doing everything they can to protect the public.

The incident comes close to the second anniversary of July 7, 2005, when four Islamic extremist
suicide bombers killed 52 people on London's transport system in the deadliest strike on the city since World War II.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:13 AM
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1. A security source said
a link to al-Qaeda could not be ruled out.:boring:

I wouldn't mind these spurious claims if when , as is usually the case , they turn out to be completely unfounded they expose the idiots who made the claim.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:19 AM
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7. I wonder if a link to Rudy Giuliani can be ruled out?...n/t
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:13 AM
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2. This is making me nervous....
because my daughter lives and works in London.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:19 AM
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8. Bogus or not I would feel the same.
Hang in there. If my boys were there I would be very nervous as well. :hug: You just never know but then it could happen anywhere (or not) but I do understand and I feel for you.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:27 AM
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12. Thank you.......
she works in the financial district and I know that can be a potential target. I'm not too worried about where she lives. I sure hope all of this is bogus.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:32 PM
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18. london is COVERED with cameras, so let's see what they reveal.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:16 AM
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3. Good police work
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 11:16 AM by Mz Pip
not torture, made this possible. I only hope our law enforcemnt can be as effective when this kind of shit starts happening here. And it will.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:19 AM
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9. Agreed more money to the first responders!!!!..
less to the corporate goons!!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:16 AM
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4. from what i have read they have`t ruled out any motive yet
i`d place a bet that it was a terrorist operation but who actually it was maybe be more difficult to say. there`s more bad guys than the al-qaeda
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:22 AM
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10. I see it more as 'sparkle' (sort of a false flag operation). Covert ops do it all the time.
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 11:23 AM by soothsayer
Remember when all those apt buildings blew up in Russia and were blamed on the chechens or the muslims or something, but really it turned out it was the russian FSB (under who, pooty poot? i think so)? Alot of US spooks thought 9/11 looked an awful lot like sparkle, too. And I'm 100% sure that alot of the terra-ist BS in London is really sparkle. including this.

On edit sparkle is doing something to yourself and then blaming whomever it is you want to pick a fight with. Kind of like punching yourself in the eye and then calling the police and blaming yer spouse. Except it's really more like punching someone ELSE in the eye and then blaming your spouse.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:29 AM
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13. Bingo
And now dear Gordon can pass the laws he so badly wants to pass. How convenient.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:52 AM
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17. And what's even more confusing,

sometimes the "good guys" turn out to be the real "bad guys."

Following snip is from an interview with Swiss historian and author Daniele Ganser (author of NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe"

Silvia Cattori: Your book about NATO’s Secret Armies <1> explains that the strategy of tension <2> and the False Flag terrorism <3> imply great dangers. It teaches us how NATO - together with the intelligence services or the West European countries and the Pentagon - utilised secret armies during the Cold War, hired spies among the extreme right wing, and organized terrorist acts for which they blamed the left. Becoming aware of this, we can wonder about what is likely to happen today behind our back.

Daniele Ganser: It is extremely important to understand what the strategy of tension truly represents the way it works nowadays. This can help us clarify the present and to see more clearly to what extent it is still in action. Only a few people know what the expression ’strategy of tension’ means. It is very important to talk about it, to explain it. It is a tactic that involves carrying out criminal acts and attributing them to someone else. By the term ’tension’, we mean emotional tension, all that which creates a feeling of tension.

By ’strategy’ we make reference to that which increases people’s fear in regard to a determined group. These secret structures of NATO had been equipped, financed and trained by the CIA, in coordination with the M16 (the British secret service), to fight against the Army of the Soviet Union in a case of war, but also according to the information to which he have access today, to commit terrorist acts in several countries <4>. That is how, since the 70s, the Italian secret services have been using these armies to foment terrorist attacks, with the purpose of causing fear among the population, and later, to accuse the communists of being the authors. The strategy of tension was designed to serve the purpose or discrediting, weakening and stopping communism from reaching executive power.

SNIP

Silvia Cattori: If I understand well, these Stay Behind groups, whose original goal was to be prepared in case of a Soviet invasion, have been deviated from that goal and were reorganised to defeat the left. From that, it is difficult to understand why the left parties have not investigated this or denounced this earlier.

Daniele Ganser: When we take the case of Italy, it appears that, every time that the communist party has interviewed the government to find an explanation about the secret army that was operating in this country under the coded name of Gladio <6>, there was never any answer, under the pretext that it was a ’state secret’. It wasn’t until 1990 that Giulio Andreotti <7> recognised the existence of Gladio and its direct links with NATO, the CIA, and M16 <8>. _ It is also during that time that the judge Felice Casson was able to prove that the true author of the bombing in Peteano in 1972, that had shocked Italy, and that had been attributed up to that moment to the extreme left militants, was Vincenzo Vinciguerra, linked to ’Ordine Nuovo’, a group of the extreme right wing. Vinciguerra avoided blame for the bombing in Peteano with the help of the Italian secret services. Vinciguerra also spoke about the existence of this secret army, Gladio. He explained that, during the Cold War, these clandestine acts had caused the death of women and children <9>. He stated as well that this secret army controlled by NATO, had branches all around Europe. When this information was released, there was a political crisis in Italy. And it is thanks to the investigations of the judge Felice Casson that we got to know about NATO’s secret armies.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article144748.html

The BBC2 channel aired a 3 part documentary on Operation Gladio in the UK back in 1992. The streaming video of this program is now online at several web sites. Just google "Operation Gladio BBC2 video" for links.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:17 AM
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5. terra! terra! Terra! by jove
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:17 AM
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6. It wasn't "a member of the public",
it was an ambulance crew attending someone who was ill nearby. And it wasn't "smoke coming out of the car". At least, not according to Scotland Yard.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:25 AM
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11. There was more than one witness to the crash...
Bomb found in London

June 30, 2007 12:00am


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21990966-661,00.html

snip-->

"One witness said door staff at the Tiger Tiger nightclub alerted police
after the car was driven into bins last night and the driver fled.

The witness said the large silver saloon car was being driven erratically
before the minor crash.

Police responded after members of the public reported a suspicious vehicle
shortly before 2am (11am Melbourne time)."
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Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:29 AM
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14. what's up with the times of the reports in this thread?
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 11:31 AM by Throwing Stones
at roughly 12:30 p.m. Eastern US time, it's only 5:30 p.m. in London, so why are these stories using
a June 30 dateline?


edited to correct UK time.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:33 AM
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15. I've seen that a lot from news sources overseas
:shrug:

Not just for this story but others as well.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:38 AM
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16. Both are Australian (n/t)
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 01:11 PM
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19. What about all those security cameras around London?
I guess a few people are finding out that big brother isn't so useful afterall?
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