"GB is a lovely man, from a lovely, patriotic family" N. Pelosi

[KAT119]

On Charlie Rose yesterday, Nancy Pelosi said that, and that GB's only problem is that he is "oblivious."

[Phredicles]

1. Oblivious, eh? That makes two of them.

What a colossal friggin' disappointment she is.

[Captain Hilts]

4. what's she supposed to say? He's a dumbass from a mob family?

Then try to work with him as though she never said it?

[babylonsister]

7. She didn't HAVE to say anything, complimentary or otherwise. nt

[depakid]

21. How about simply being honest?

and calling a spade a spade.

It's not like most everyone- even most Republicans don't get it by now.

[EFerrari]

70. Remember, Nancy was the first one to call him a miserable failure

on camera. :shrug:

[Morgana LaFey]

85. Actually, Gephardt called him that during his campaign

I don't think that predated Pelosi's usage of the term.

[EFerrari]

87. I think it might have but, how in the world could we check?

So many have by now. lol :)

[Morgana LaFey]

92. Well, I distinctly remember him saying it during one of the debates

and the audience breaking out in big applause. Does that predate Pelosi's? I have no idea when Pelosi's use of the term was. Do you?

[EFerrari]

94. I don't but I remember what a big flap it caused. So, I'm guessing

that Nancy took the hit for the meme and that it got repeated. Sorry, can't do better. I found this but there's no attribution:

It's Official! Google Declares Bush is a 'Miserable Failure
06-Dec-03
Bush Failure

"A search for the phrase 'miserable failure' on the popular search engine Google brings up the biography of George W. Bush on the official White House Web site, in one of the more prominent search-engine manipulations with political overtones. The phrase appears nowhere in the bio. But computer users rigged the search engine results by posting the phrase on Web pages and linking it to the Bush bio, in a technique called Google bombing. 'I thought it was absolutely one of the funniest ideas I've ever heard,' said Don Waller, owner of Don Waller Interactive, a Web design company in Islip Terrace and a blogger who joined the prank in late October. 'I just decided to jump in with it.' 'This is just one of those spontaneous things that a blogger will post something and other bloggers will say, 'This is a great idea.'" Try it yourself by clicking below!

http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Bush%20Failure

lol

[EFerrari]

97. Actually, after cruising many more links, pant, pant, you seem to be right.

Because this article has Gephardt saying it in 2003.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030915-483322,00.html

[roguevalley]

82. at what point in his downward spiral are people going to tell the

truth about the piglet in the white house? I despise her for not listening to the people and their demand that this criminal face the consequences of his behavior. period.

SIGH! I am writing her every day. One more thing to fling in her face.

[1620rock]

6. Sheesh. n/t

[seemslikeadream]

2. Takes one to know one

[glitch]

78. What I was going to say, and not very happily either. :( nt

[originalpckelly]

3. Anyone feel that on the East Coast?

I think that's the founding fathers rolling over in their graves.

[sabra]

5. you seem kind of Pelosi obsessed this afternoon...

[blondeatlast]

28. You noticed that too? Did you see the thread that was pulled? And her/his link? nt

[sabra]

30. yes - sad stuff :-(

[blondeatlast]

31. I'm glad someone else is calling the poster on this. Thanks even if it does no good. nt

[LostinVA]

89. Yeah -- I posted in it first

And asked for it to be pulled. White Supremacist sites, eh?

[AlCzervik]

8. so what?

[MadHound]

9. Ah yes, a lovely patriotic family that made its fortune by aiding Hitler's rise to power

Hmmm, speaking of oblivious:eyes:

[NYCGirl]

10. So did the Kennedys. Shall we throw them out?

Edited to add: There's enough wrong with the Bushes that one doesn't have to reach out to the grandfather's WWII war profiteering.

[MadHound]

38. It was a bit more than war profiteering, and it didn't end with gramps either

It was directly financing Hitler's rise to power, and without the aid of Brown Bros. Harriman, it is questionable that Hitler would have even risen to power. And let's not overlook Poppy's enabling the cause of world wide facism. One has but to look at Central America in the eighties to see that. And isn't it almost every day now, from the Patriot Act until this very day that we all notice an ongoing rise of fascist policies in this country, under this administration? Come now, stop being so gullible.

[NYCGirl]

43. Check out Joe Kennedy, too. NT

[MadHound]

44. Oh I know all about Joe Kennedy

And no, I'm not a big fan of the man nor his family. However Ted Kennedy hasn't funneled fascist thinking into his policies and politics, merely corporatism, which all of our so called leaders suffer from to a greater or lesser extent. The Bushs however seem to have a very large fascist streak that run throughout their family.

[shadowknows69]

67. I'd say Jack, Bobbie and Ted not to mention Bobbie Jr.

Outweigh whatever horrors Joe may have been involved in more than anything the Bush clan has done to counter Prescott's evil.

[WinkyDink]

75. Not to mention Joe, Jr.'s DEATH IN WWII. JFK'S almost-death with PT-109.

[WinkyDink]

73. Old Joe was a bootlegger and was an isolationist. But he was no Nazi; Prescott was.

[NYCGirl]

76. From Wiki:

In 1938, Roosevelt appointed Kennedy as the United States Ambassador to the Court of St. James's (Britain). Kennedy's Irish and Catholic status did not bother the British; indeed he hugely enjoyed his leadership position in London society, which stood in stark contrast to his outsider status in Boston. His daughter Kathleen married the heir to the Duke of Devonshire, the head of one of England's grandest aristocratic families. Kennedy rejected the warnings of Winston Churchill that compromise with Nazi Germany was impossible; instead he supported Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's policy of appeasement in order to stave off a second world war that would be a more horrible "armageddon" than the first. Throughout 1938, as the Nazi persecution of Jews intensified, Kennedy attempted to obtain an audience with Adolf Hitler.<4> Shortly before the Nazi aerial bombing of British cities began in September 1940, Kennedy sought a personal meeting with Hitler, again without State Department approval, "to bring about a better understanding between the United States and Germany."<5>

Kennedy was (for a while) a close friend with the leading Jewish lawyer Felix Frankfurter, who helped Kennedy get his sons into the London School of Economics, where they worked with Harold Laski, a leading Jewish intellectual and prominent Socialist.<7> While holding positive attitudes towards individual Jews, Kennedy's views of the Jews as a people were, by his own admission, overwhelmingly negative.

According to Harvey Klemmer, who served as one of Kennedy's embassy aides, Kennedy habitually referred to Jews as "kikes or sheenies." Kennedy allegedly told Klemmer that " individual Jews are all right, Harvey, but as a race they stink. They spoil everything they touch."<8> When Klemmer returned from a trip to Germany and reported the pattern of vandalism and assault on Jews by Nazis, Kennedy responded "well, they brought it on themselves."<9>

On June 13, 1938, Kennedy met with Herbert von Dirksen, the German ambassador in London, who reported to Berlin that Kennedy had told him that "it was not so much the fact that we want to get rid of the Jews that was so harmful to us, but rather the loud clamor with which we accompanied this purpose. himself fully understood our Jewish policy."<10> Kennedy's main concern with such violent acts against German Jews as Kristallnacht was that they generated bad publicity in the West for the Nazi regime, a concern he communicated in a letter to Charles Lindbergh.<11>
Kennedy had a close friendship with Nancy Astor, who shared (and perhaps surpassed) his hatred of the Jews; the correspondence between them is replete with anti-Semitic tropes.<12> As Edward Renehan notes:

As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and Astor looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world problems" (Nancy's phrase).... Kennedy replied that he expected the "Jew media" in the United States to become a problem, that "Jewish pundits in New York and Los Angeles" were already making noises contrived to "set a match to the fuse of the world."<13>

[EFerrari]

100. And that would make him an anti-Semite, not a Nazi. n/t

[bvar22]

109. Delete

asked & answered above.

[ClassWarfare2008]

11. Lovely patriotic family???

Grandpa funded Hitler. (How do your AIPAC buddies justify that, by the way??)
Daddy killed all those "bad" liberals in the 60s, and practically invented modern "terrorism" (Not to mention the drug trade)
Brother Neil swindled a bunch of people out of their life savings.
Brother Marvin had the WTC security stand down while workers fixed the "sprinkler system" (with explosive charges which were used to bring the towers down)
Brother Jeb fixed the 2000 election.

Yeah, what a bunch of "patriots".

Nancy, if you believe that, you're as useless as they are.

[shanti]

16. she was crossing her fingers

when she said that! ;)

[MADem]

12. Well done, Nancy!!

Distract him by wiggling the shiny keys at him, and then stick him in the buttocks with your "oblivious" syringe....

The little prick will not even notice that he has been pricked!

[fightthegoodfightnow]

137. Denial

Anyone who says or agrees with the statement that""GB is a lovely man, from a lovely, patriotic family" is in denial.

I'm sure you think it's a nice strategy but for Bush to be "pricked" (as you say), the person doing it has to have some balls.

[blogslut]

13. In the real world one has to work with people.

Even people they don't like.

What would you have her say?

[NYCGirl]

20. Sorry, we don't care about the real world here.

:evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

27. See post 23... nt

[NYCGirl]

35. Interesting. Thanks for the heads-up! NT

[blondeatlast]

26. See post 23 regarding the OP... nt

[IChing]

52. interesting care to

PM me on that?

I didn't bite on this thread

[Captain Hilts]

54. THANK YOU, blogslut. You catch more flies with sugar than vinegar.

[Beetwasher]

14. Wow. I'm Underwhelmed.

So what? This called being a politician. It's good strategy NOT to launch ad hominems. She SHOULD stick to attacking his politics, competence and ideology and NOT insult him personally, or actually even say nice things about him PERSONALLY. It's good for her image and it's good politics.

[helderheid]

15. What a pair

[Nightjock]

17. WTF!

What an idiot! I GIVE UP. Impeachment is "off the table" and I want to throw her in the trash can.

[blueworld]

18. "Only problem"? How much does she pay for her haircuts?

What kind of a man decides to run for the most important world leadership position on the planet & allows himself to become "oblivious"? Did he really think he could leave all the tough stuff to Dummy & Rummy & vacation in Crawford 3 months per year?

Does the first-ever female Speaker of the House, leader of the opposition party, honestly see this as the "only problem" of a "lovely man"? There are over 3000 American soldiers from "lovely, patriotic families" who are permanently oblivious. And hundreds of thousands of "lovely" Iraqis who would pay money to afford the luxury of "oblivious".

That statement shows how "oblivious" Mrs. Speaker is herself. Good grief, we're surrounded. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Divine Discontent]

blueworld....

thank GOD you get it! I'm reading all these pathetic excusing comments of her backers here and thinking, um, how about just being politely honest and saying, "well, this is by far the worst run administration I've ever seen or read about, and it's unimportant if he's a nice guy when his decisions put our troops in harm's way for no reason and our citizen's rights are ignored by the gov't spying on them illegally"

sigh... we're surrounded... We need men like Feingold, Kerry, and women like Boxer to standup and speak that this traitorous leader needs to be impeached immediately. Do they not see his continuing pattern to dictatorial leanings coming right at them? They're destroying the constitution!

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<<---- top 08 & antibush items

[Bill McBlueState]

19. well, think of what she didn't say

Pelosi might have said Bush can make tough decisions. Or that he's a man of principle. Or that he has the best interests of the country at heart, even if she disagrees with him about how to pursue them.

But none of those are even remotely accurate, so she called him "lovely."

Technically, it's a compliment, but it's not much of one.

[EFerrari]

22. Will this be aired again?

Oh, geeze.

[seemslikeadream]

53. here it is

http://www.charlierose.com/home

quote is at 42:50

[EFerrari]

69. Thanks. I haven't been punished enough this week.

:(

[blondeatlast]

23. This from the poster who linked to a virulent white supremacist site.

No, thanks, KAT.

[LostinVA]

90. Tell me about it -- why no link THIS time?

[muffin1]

24. I've stood behind you lo these many months, Nancy

but the honeymoon's over. You've lost me. How you can call anyone in that family "lovely" or " patriotic" is beyond comprehension.:evilfrown:

[bdamomma]

122. what is wrong with Pelosi, doesn't she know a mob boss when

she sees one!!

[WinkyDink]

25. Why, it's JUST what Republicans say about Ted Kennedy! NOT!!!!!!!

[seemslikeadream]

29. let's watch the interview

http://www.charlierose.com/home

[AlCzervik]

32. nice ring and run subby just like your other thread.

[blondeatlast]

40. That link was a doozy, wasn't it? I even clicked on it.

:puke:

[seemslikeadream]

59. I have no idea what link you're talking about but what Pelosi said is

what Pelosi said

courageous people do not go awol

courageous people do not start illegal wars

courageous people do not lie

[lazer47]

33. Well,,, Just Bless Her Heart,,

[mitchum]

93. LOL!!!

nicely done :)

[JerseygirlCT]

34. I'd use "evil" myself. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. Which, even if true, would qualify him to be a (lousy) janitor.

I know lots of people from a "lovely, patriotic, family" who are oblivious. They make nice secretaries, cashiers, musicians, taxi drivers, or dogcatchers. But, I doubt that I would want any of them to be president, though most of them would be more able than the boob now infesting the White House.

[Dogmudgeon]

37. WHORE! TRAITOR! WHORE! TRAITOR!

WHORE!

TRAITOR!

DLC!

LIEBERMAN!

CORPORATE!

CHENEY!

IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

What is this about, anyway? Pelosi said something nice, but meaningless, about Bush?

--p!

[poverlay]

49. Thanks for typing what I'm feeling. Sometimes it's just too tiring to call out

all the whores's and traitors. There are just too many of them.

[EFerrari]

72. People are cranky, p! Maybe not the OP, but I confess I get that way.

We need to eat our Wheaties.

[KittyWampus]

118. we need to eat our Wheaties, but instead eat our own.

:(

I seldom visit DU anymore.

It's tiresome.

[EFerrari]

120. Well, Skinner warned us in every way he could about the Primary Thing.

It's good to see you, cryingshame. :hi:

[seemslikeadream]

126. Eat our own? Some one that calls bush courageous?

Is not one of my own

[ORDagnabbit]

39. 1 party ruled by the corporations..... listen to mike gravel!

[madisongrace]

41. How do you think she got to where she is?

It's called politically savvy.. Sorry

[Hekate]

42. Irony and sarcasm alert anyone? Was she supposed to spell it out? And do see Post#23.

My goodness, some people here froth at the mouth. "Whore"? "Traitor"? I think not.

Hekate

[Dogmudgeon]

64. I just don't get this

I don't know if you were referencing my post (#37) specifically, but I occasionally post like this, "ironically," when there is a DU Frenzy over something trivial.

Being "nice" to one's enemies is extremely unnerving. It's a shame that when we do it, it unnerves so many people in our own camp.

--p!

[blondeatlast]

74. It's a shame that so few people realize what an effective weapon it can be.

I use it all the time in my day-to-day dealings with people who want to get a rise out of me. It drives them NUTS.

:thumbsup:

[Hekate]

77. Hehe. Tripped myself up. Thanks for pointing out your intention.

:hi:

Hekate

[ecstatic]

99. Did you give Obama a pass too, or just Pelosi? nt

[Jed Dilligan]

45. Seems like smart politics to me

There are a lot of goodie-goodies out there who want to believe everyone is nice to each other and like each other deep down. They vote.

The rest of us can read it as deep, deep :sarcasm: Pretty funny at that. Unless we're out to prove that Pelosi loves Bush for some reason.

[terrya]

46. Oh, right...I believe she actually said that Bush is a "lovely man"

Jesus. :eyes:

[seemslikeadream]

48. at 16:50 she said he was courageous

and I'm still listening, 41:32

[Divine Discontent]

95. barf!

omg!!! KICK & R!!!

any of you San Franciscan folks out there that ever get a chance to talk to her - tell her she's BONKERS for saying such nice & LOVING commments about him - COURAGEOUS???? Courage isn't marching 200,000 men off to their possible deaths for spite. Courage isn't staying on vacation and playing guitar and eating cake while hundreds DROWN. Courage isn't telling the military to torture captives of his false war.

I'm so pissed at her.
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[Divine Discontent]

96. seriously...

think about ALL that he's done... how he didn't get-elected elected? all the comment he's made about how "nope, no WMD's here! none under there!", and the mocking comments of anyone - like the blind reporter he mocked for wearing his "sunglasses? it's not sunny out!" at the press conference in Cali, and all the shitty comments and decisions he's made..

to hear her kiss his butt and hear Obama say impeachment is only used for "grave" errors makes me question if they're on our side at all.

PLEASE AL - join in! PLEASE WES - join in!

I only feel that Kucinich totally gets it, and I believe Edwards gets a lot of it, but the rest - ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if they get it at ALL after these current comments of capitulation and arse kissing!

[davidwparker]

47. Vote Pelosi out

[LibDemAlways]

50. I saw it, too. It was puke-inducing.

No one is suggesting that she should have called him an asshole on tv. But the fawning was unnecessary and had to be either 1) insincere or 2) evidence that Nancy is delusional.

She should have stuck to policy.

[seemslikeadream]

51. He's approching obliviousness, he is oblivious

he's a lovely man comes from a lovely family, he's a nice person 42:50

http://www.charlierose.com/home

[Phredicles]

55. Nice people don't start wars.

Just saying.

[seemslikeadream]

56. george bush is not a nice person and he does not like black people

[Phredicles]

61. Is there any chance she said "nice" and "lovely" and "courageous" with any

evidence of sarcasm? Any chance at all?

I mean, I've been unimpressed with her up to now, but I cannot accept this as "just the way politics is done". One wouldn't say these things about OJ or Manson or Dahmer, and Herr Decider has orders of magnitude more blood on his hands.

[seemslikeadream]

63. Watch the interview

I just sat through the WHOLE boring thing to see what she said and how she said it. I didn't see any evidence of sarcasm, at all.

http://www.charlierose.com/home



He's approching obliviousness, he is oblivious
he's a lovely man comes from a lovely family, he's a nice person 42:50

[LibDemAlways]

66. I was dozing off when I heard her say it, and thought it

might be a portion of a nightmare. It sure got my attention. WTF was she thinking?

But, believe it or not, there are those on DU who would proudly display a document in their home with chimp's signature and title on it. I was read the riot act by more than one poster when I expressed disgust that my daughter's recent academic award was marred, and in my opinion devalued, by the war criminal POS's pawprint. I sure as hell wouldn't display a plaque signed by Manson, and Bush is certainly no better - and, in terms of numbers dead - he's worse.

[seemslikeadream]

58. he's not courageous either

:hi:


and he is a liar!

[GreenPartyVoter]

57. Dennis Kucinich for Speaker!

[BuyingThyme]

101. Jimmy Carter.

[Canuckistanian]

60. Ask New Orleans how 'lovely' he is

And Pelosi obviously knows nothing about GW's grandfather, Prescott, investing heavily in Nazi businesses.

"Patriotic" doesn't mean wrapping yourself in the flag when election time comes around. It actually means NOT HARMING your country in any way ALL the time.

[Phredicles]

62. Then ask the Iraqis how 'nice' he is.

Just incredible.:wow::puke:

[seemslikeadream]

65. or the Haitians

[Mark Twain Girl]

68. "His only problem"? Not, say, a penchant for secrecy, domestic spying, flouting of subpoenas?

Nice. Not.

[stirlingsliver]

71. He's A Fucking Law-Breaking TYRANT!

I am going to EXPLODE!!

* is a fucking lawbreaking tyrant who takes real joy in pissing on the Constitution of the United States!!!

He is a power-hungry, coke-addled MONSTER!

[Divine Discontent]

98. that says it rather profoundly. amen n/t

[diamidue]

79. Bush=28% approval rating. Who is Nancy fooling?

I know, I know, she may be trying to appear non-partisan, yadda..yadda..yadda. But "lovely man"?? The guy is a friggin' mass murder.

[glitch]

81. Really dumb, and I generally like her and her policy positions. Just who is she courting here?

Certainly not middle america.

edit UNLESS she said it with an eye roll.

[ClassWarfare2008]

83. Yes, who is she courting?

Possibly the Absolute Insanity (of)Preparing America's Capitulation to fascism? :shrug:

[candice]

91. She has to work with Shrub, and he is higher on the totem poll...

think about the dumb-a$$ managers you've had to placate to keep your job/health insurance or whatever.

[glitch]

106. I've worked with a lot of asshole managers in my time, I never felt compelled to compliment them

or their families. Got plenty of promotions too, based on hard work. Just sayin' this doesn't serve her best interest or ours. It's creepy, nobody likes a brown-nose. Unless she was being sarcastic.

OR she's about ready to spring impeachment on all their asses and wants to see him blubber, bbbut you said I was lovely!

[LibDemAlways]

115. What makes it even worse is that she said it to

Bush lover/administration apologist Charlie Rose, and he was egging her on.

Why she couldn't just stick to what's wrong with Bush's policies and take a pass on the personal stuff is beyond me. It demeans her and makes her look foolish to insist that the war criminal POS is a "lovely" guy.

[glitch]

116. Those words will bite especially when he's tried for war crimes.

Edit to add: and his lovely patriotic family has to move to Paraguay. Or Dubai, if Cheney lets them in.

How's that going to look in the history pages? Vichy. Very Vichy.

[marions ghost]

132. yes

it makes her look like an incredible suck-up. She wants to come off like a compromiser, but there comes a time to play hardball....

[otohara]

80. I Feel Sick

there's nothing lovely about the Bush Crime Family, especially number one son.

[Hubert Flottz]

84. That's prolly why

Gawd wants to have a beer with Dumbya!

[proud2BlibKansan]

86. Oh then go blow him Nancy

Then we can impeach him :evilgrin:

[leftofthedial]

88. she's another "lovely" member of the oligarchy

they are on the same team

and it ain't OUR team

[BuyingThyme]

102. Yep.

[mitchum]

121. But...but...but...she's our oligarch!

and we little people should be oh so grateful

[choie]

103. "the only problem is that he's oblivious.."

...and a liar, and a war criminal...

[seemslikeadream]

104. definiton oblivious

Unable to remember: amnesiac, amnesic, forgetful. See remember/forget.
Not aware or informed: ignorant, innocent, unacquainted, unaware, unconscious, unenlightened, unfamiliar, uninformed, unknowing, unwitting. Idioms: in the dark






I don't think so

[Fridays Child]

105. It's not fair to the rest of us but I fear that, once she leaves the Speaker's chair...

...it's going to be a long time before any other women are elected to the post.

Nancy, hon, you're not at a garden party, and George Bush is most definitely NOT lovely.

[robinlynne]

107. context please.

[seemslikeadream]

110. here

http://www.charlierose.com/home


42:50

[glitch]

117. 20th & 21st Centuries. nt

[thereismore]

108. So Nancy is a liar. LIAR. Liar. liar

[Nimrod2005]

111. WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KoKo]

112. I don't know why Nancy can be gracious...Maybe she lives in Bubble

with her five children and the grandkids and this is just a "Job." I don't know anymore. I really expected better from her than this. Some "distancing" from these CRIMINALS might be in order given that many of us are NOT GIVING to Dem Congress or Senate when they call to collect our funds.

We've given and given and NOW it's TIME to support our STATE CANDIDATES and not just give our "teeny donations" to pay for THEIR POSTAGE STAMPS!

BUILD THE PARTY FROM THE GROUND UP ....NOT...TOP DOWN!!!!

[Cha]

113. Nancy, sorry..but there's no reason

to fucking lie. If you can't tell the truth then don't say anything about him at all.

bush is "oblivious", Nancy? Ya mean he's a fucking idiot or WHAT?

[wildbilln864]

114. Goddamn!

Is she crazy?
G.W. is a sociopathic criminal! And he's running this country! That's the most naive thing I've heard any democratic politician say. :grr:

[goodgd_yall]

119. Don't be so literal, folks.

She was being appropriately condescending to GW "Schmuckface" Bush.

[seemslikeadream]

127. No she was not if you would watch the video you could see that for yourself

[brook]

123. Transcript? eom

Oh, it's a dump and run. Never mind.

[seemslikeadream]

125. I've given the link at least 4 times here WATCH IT please just watch it

[coco77]

124. Impeach Nancy and Harry Reid...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

128. And Hitler was a good dancer. Pelosi has to go. End Of Story. eom

[Vinca]

129. Please . . . someone tell me Nancy was drinking at lunch. nt

[blindpig]

130. What do you expect?

The Good Cop and the Bad Cop are on the same team and in the same employ. R's and D's aren't in serious opposition, it's a dog & pony show to maintain the illusion that we prisoners aren't in jail. The past 16 years are proof positive. Past time to clean house, seriously clean house.

Don't pay me no mind, I must be crazy, eh? Just chill, turn on the tv, or the Wee, gobble some mood modifiers, yammer on the internet. You are getting sleepy......

[wildbilln864]

133. I believe you're....

correct! It's just part of the divide and conquer scheme they got going.
It's insane! :grr:

[marions ghost]

131. OK I listened to the whole thing....bummer

yes, she said he is 'a lovely person from a lovely patriotic family.' Her tone was condescending and she followed it with a list of ways in which he is "oblivious." But STILL she DID say exactly this. (damn)

She also said, "it's not his personality, it's his policy." This is doublespeak HMO. Personalities create policies. I think she's verbally confusing being "personable" with personality. The chimp is obviously a conflicted, narcissistic, deranged character. He has a serious personality DISORDER. This leads to a total disconnect from the implications of his ruthless and radical policies.

I want to think that Pelosi's gambit is a "kill em with kindness" or "confuse a cat" strategy. I can't believe she thinks he's a lovely person. She just tells dangerous pathological Narcissists what they want to hear. A lot of times people (unconsciously or not) try to mollify such a person who is in a position of great power. This assures the tyrant that they can maintain their dignity while she plots their undoing. At least I hope this is the case with Pelosi. I HOPE she is biding her time for GOOD reason. She IS trying...I do believe that.

However she should at least be challenged on this. Nancy, please explain your choice of words, because there's no way your supporters can rationalize such a bizarre statement.

This is a problem for Pelosi. She needs to address it.

[Phredicles]

134. This needs a kick; it's the only thread I know of on this topic on either

GD or GD-Politics, which is surprising given that for a while there seemed to be a new thread every minute on the subject of John Edwards' hair.

This is a small thing, granted, but a telling detail. I don't know if Pelosi thinks this is still the Tip O'Neill era when people in congress would disagree and then go have a beer afterwards, but she comes across as stunningly clueless on this point. And this wouldn't necessarily be a big deal, except that she's seemed clueless on so many other points as well.

[Vidar]

135. Pelosi needs to be shown the door.

[Arugula Latte]

136. What a disappointment she's been.

Goddammit. Why will so few stand up for us?

[Initech]

138. Are you sure this wasn't from The Onion?

Bush family = lovely? Patriotic? Come on, they're a bunch of lying, murderous criminal fuckers who only care about lining their own pocketbooks. They don't care about the average American.