Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Brits, help a clueless yank, what's with the new P.M.?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 05:26 AM
Original message
Brits, help a clueless yank, what's with the new P.M.?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/30/nbrown230.xml

Perhaps more surprisingly, Mr Brown is by no means dismissed as old-hat, somebody who has been around so long that he cannot breathe new life into Labour. Fifty-two per cent of those interviewed reckon that even though Labour has been in power for a decade "it should be possible for the Government under Gordon Brown to make a fresh start". Only 37 per cent demur.

Many voters even expect the new Prime Minister to terminate Labour's decade-long era of spin and alleged sleaze. As the chart shows, one voter in three reckons there will be less of both. A mere eight per cent fear that there may be more.

However, as a general proposition, few voters expect much in the way of good things. Forty-nine per cent of those interviewed admit to being pessimistic about the prospects for the new premiership and only one in four reckons Mr Brown will prove a better premier than Mr Blair.

------------------------------------

Sounds like low expectations for Brown, but no one can beat America's low expectations of bush, and he didn't let us down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 06:23 AM
Response to Original message
1. Brown is completely different from Bush
For Brown, "low expectations" aren't because of ability - everyone agrees (even opponents) that he's very intelligent, and works hard. It's more that he's been Blair's chancellor for 10 years, and while most people were sick of Blair, and his spin/lying, we wonder how different can Brown be, when he was so closely associated with Blair?

His style will be different - Blair was all about slick presentation, and apparent charm, enthusiasm and passion (Blair was rated a good actor right from school). Brown isn't so flashy, but he hasn't been above misdirection himself, but that was normally with figures - various announcements about new money for this programme or that have turned out, when analysed, to be old allocations just respun to give them another headline. There are also some doubts as to how healthy the British economy really is - Brown boasts that it's had GDP growth in every quarter he was chancellor, while other developed economies have just about all had some form of mild recession, but some think there a problems building up over pension plans and the Private Finance Initiative (where companies own the buildings for schools, hospitals etc., and the government rents them) that clever accounting has hidden.

In origin, Brown is true Labour - a proper socialist when he was younger. He's gradually got closer to private and market-oriented policies, but is still, I think, to the left of a fair amount of the US Democratic party (I might match him with John Edwards, perhaps?). Another aspect of "low expectations" for him is that although he largely kept quiet about Iraq, and most of the rest of Blair's foreign policy (international aid, which he's keen on, is the only aspect he's really dabbled in), he never complained about what Blair did, and when Blair's back was against the wall, Brown did defend him. So many of us suspect he won't oppose Bush in any significant way in foreign policy - but he won't do the enthusiastic cheerleading that Blair did, either. I suspect Brown's foreign policy will be "let's try and have nothing happen until Bush is gone". Could be worse, could be better.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Good analysis!
Brown will probably be better on foreign policy than Blair; less of a Bush-poodle and more cautious. I doubt that he'd support a war with Iran, for instance, even if Bush calls for one. On the other hand, I'm less sure about domestic policy: he has strongly promoted Blair's target-driven, managerial, NCLB-like policies on health, education, etc. and I suspect that he will continue to do so.

Unlike Bush, he is not stupid, lazy or crazy. He is undoubtedly well to the left of Bush; but that may still not make him left-wing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 09:38 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC