"your concern is noted"

[LSK]

Can we stop using such blanket attack statements??? We are not here to attack each other, we are here to DEBATE.

When all you can say is "your concern is noted", why bother posting anything at all? It is an incredibly weak cop-out.

TRY ACTUALLY DEBATING AND USE FACTS AND REASON.

Im really sick of WEAK ATTACKS.

DU IS NOT ABOUT THAT, IT IS ABOUT DEBATING ISSUES AND EXCHANGING IDEAS WITH FACTS.

When your only reply is "your concern is noted", you are WEAKENING THE QUALITY OF DEBATE ON DU.

[MH1]

1. Your concern is noted.

:sarcasm:

couldn't resist. :)

actually -

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[ContraBass Black]

2. But then we'll have to have a new phrase that means

"Shut up, troll Freeper Republican."

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

27. Chess moves. Work the system. Get the original thread deleted by,...

,...getting some du,...err,...one to post something like, "shut up, troll freeper,...".

I suppose pointing out an irrelevant, non-offensive post will send this from mole-hill to mountain, just as quickly as anticipated. Nice work.

[BlooInBloo]

35. Yup.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. Sheesh, you and your fact-based discussions.

how can we ever expect to convince conservatives if we rely on pesky things like facts?

ANSWER ME THAT, why doncha?

[unkachuck]

33. good point....

....we won't be able to; I don't think we should even try....

[conscious evolution]

49. I have to agree

[blm]

4. Skinner said it best - when you disagree refute with facts in responding post.

That's why his advice is my sig line.

[devilgrrl]

26. So people should spend time refuting John Edwards' hair/house threads?

Or how about some of the shit that flys out of Ann Coulter's mouth? People should refute total bullshit with facts????

[blm]

28. Where possible, yes. The inane bullshit is usually gameplaying by people doing it

for their own agenda, they know the truth and aren't interested in truth getting in the way of that agenda.

Those people make themselves obvious over time, and only succeed in outing themselves to the general membership here.

[devilgrrl]

29. Aren't those instances usually the cause of the "thank you for your concern" comments?

Seems to me that they are and that's why people say that.

[ContraBass Black]

32. I see it wherever there's a

"This Action is Politically Ineffective" or "We Ought to Pay Attention to this Oversight" thread that one or more posters do not agree with the OP.

[lonestarnot]

5. Come on, I like Blanket.

[Solly Mack]

6. The truly sad part is that they think it clever.

Actual trolls are one thing - but the phrase "your concern is noted" is being used by non-trolls who don't like - or can't refute - what is being said in an attempt to paint other non-trolls as trolls.

It's meant to cast aspersions on the poster and be dismissive without offering up evidence.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

7. Why?

When someone posts what is an obvious "Concern Troll", I think that response is measured and reasonable.

[LSK]

8. no, the response is a waste of time

Why not post why you disagree with the poster in your response??? Isnt that what intelligent debate is about? Saying you disagree and explaining WHY?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. Sometimes...

Terse is appropriate.

[hfojvt]

45. but it's not very educational

a simple 'you're wrong' only demonstrates that the person saying it has a closed mind.

Granted, Republican talking points are usually wrong and lies, but a simple declaration 'that is a Republican talking point' does nothing to change the mind of a non-partisan person who has heard it and thinks 'hey, that's true and makes sense'.

And the terse statement here is not only 'you are wrong' it is 'you are a heretic' or 'you are a troll'. Trouble is that not every Democrat is part of the Michael Moore wing of the Party, to say nothing of the independents and moderate Republicans that we need to sway if we are going to win elections, at least here in red country. If truth is on the side of the more progressive, then we should be able to present that truth and refute the lies, not just close out, or cast out anybody who does not see things our way.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. how bout this?

[pingzing58]

19. Funny Gabi. Love the graphic.

[Spazito]

43. LOL, I LOVE that grapic, it makes me laugh out loud every time

I see it. No text needed with that, rofl!

:rofl:

[datasuspect]

22. how can you have an intelligent debate with a right wing buffoon?

that's like trying to talk with a 5 year old about currency fluctuations and mortgage backed bonds and how they affect the destabilization of the dollar.

you need to have a worthwhile interlocutor.

sometimes, the very transparent trolls and disruptors are not worthy of that much respect.

[canetoad]

9. And all those inconsiderate bastards

who just type K & R without even entering into a debate. More regulation of posts is what we need. A minimum word count.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

11. And Gitmo for the violaters.

We cannot rest until such posting is wiped from the face of the earth.

[RufusTFirefly]

18. We'll smoke 'em out! We're on the hunt!

Actually, I certainly don't have problems with K & R. Sometimes you just want to say "Amen" without adding anything substantive to the discussion. As for "your concern is noted," you're right: that is a milquetoast response. Of course, we all have to pick our battles and some people who post such things may want to make their opposition known but don't feel it's worth the effort to muster up a detailed rebuttal. If, for example, someone started a thread that said "There is nothing in the Bible that evolution can refute!", I'd be tempted to respond with "Your concern is noted."

As Twain once said (I believe it was Twain): "You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into in the first place."

[annabanana]

12. damn. . That's pretty much me gone. .

I am not particularly good at expressing myself in writing. I often k&r to keep the post around long enough for the really good writers to get a crack at it.

[canetoad]

13. You just wait until your post count

is retrospectively lowered because of posts that don't meet the required criteria for debate.

:banghead:

[conscious evolution]

50. Same here.

I also K&R if the original post needs to be seen by as many as possible.

Add: If there was a minimum word count I could not IBTL or IBTS people or posts that concern me.

[ixion]

15. minimum word counts would be a bad thing, given that six words changed the world:

"energy equals mass times velocity squared."

This thought revolutionized the world. What if there had been a 'minimum' count involved?

[canetoad]

16. lol This is a trick question right?

[ixion]

30. lol... well, a rhetorical one...

yes... :rofl:

[LSK]

17. red herring

K&R is a system that kicks a thread that people think is important and others should read. The greatest serves that purpose too. It is a system that pushes the better arguments and debates to the forefront.

[pingzing58]

20. I really do prefere the Repug technique of bash and burn. It makes for good debate.

[karlrschneider]

21. That's a pretty good summary of replies I get from my congresscritters.

:eyes:

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

23. I know where that was posted. n/t

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

24. Oh, I'll add that, once the REAL propaganda was revealed, the OP left.

Want to debate that?

[Forkboy]

25. Sometimes it fits.

:shrug:

[Kingofalldems]

31. Is "Thank you for your concern" okay?

That's the one I use.

[AZBlue]

34. DU didn't used to be about it. But it is now.

And increasingly so.

Thank you for your post!

[Lex]

36. It's just a reference to a possible "concern troll" sighting maybe?

"Concern Trolls". Marginally more clever, they pretend at being progressive Democrats, but at every turn seem to suggest the most obviously damaging or boneheaded or offensive thing they can. These are easier to catch than you might imagine: since it hardly matters whether someone is an obvious concern troll or just an unmitigated idiot, sometimes it doesn't pay to think about it too hard.

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Troll_rating

[ContraBass Black]

42. The retort "thank you about your concern" became very popular

the day that the concern troll definition was posted in GD several times.

[BlooInBloo]

37. Unjustified, on the grounds of being stramannishly literalistic.

EDIT: Clarified subject.

[Catherine Vincent]

38. Actually, I kinda like and agree when someone uses that statement.

n/t

[spoony]

44. Why? It isn't clever.

Nor original.
Nor accurate much of the time.

It's usually just some snarky twit hiding behind cliches.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

39. How about "The Much Ado About Nothing Store called

& it's out of this thread."

[Richard Steele]

40. M'kay...

[Catherine Vincent]

46. LOL!

:rofl: That pic definitely fits!

[Blue-Jay]

41. As long as we're at it, can we also lay off the CAPS?

Seeing random CAPS really offends my sense of order. Try italics! Doesn't that look nice?

Or maybe you'd prefer something in bold. Nothing says "bold statement quite like bold type" I always say.

[datasuspect]

52. and while we're at it, let's lose the title case in subject headers, it's too fussy and officious

unless of course you are writing and actual subject title and not starting the body of your post in the subject header.

[JVS]

53. fUcK ThAt bUlLsHiT I'Ll CaPiTaLiZe As I sEe FiT!

[datasuspect]

54. It Sounds More Important If You Use the Title Case in the Subject Header

wiseguy!

[JVS]

56. The Word 'if' is not Capitalized According to the Proper Rules of Capitalization

[datasuspect]

57. Yes, I Concur, But it Does Look More Impressive . . .

am i profound yet?

[JVS]

58. On the Impressiveness of Posts

I find that it is not so important to capitalize in a manner that is reminiscent of a title, than it is to actually create titles for your posts.

[in_cog_ni_to]

47. I missed it. What happened? Any clues? n/t

[Jed Dilligan]

48. It's a not-very-oblique way of calling someone a troll,

which is against DU rules. I'm not sure why it gets a free pass, along with "Maybe you got lost on the way to that other site" and "Welcome to DU, enjoy your visit."

[KoKo]

51. When was the last time you saw DU'ers read past Subject Line and Debate?

Aside from rock slinging and sarcastic flyby's there are very few here who "engage in Debate."

You must not be here much..or you would have noticed. :shrug:

[Iris]

55. I see your concern and I have noted it. (But KoKo01 makes a good point in the post just above!)