Number ONE reason for impeachment?

[Truthiness Inspector]

What is your number ONE reason for wanting impeachment?

Of course there may be more than one, but pick your primary reason if you would, and then list others in your response. If I leave out any choices, I'm sure other DUers will remind me.

[supernova]

1. Too bad polling isn't

a "check all that apply" feature. :grr:

[Truthiness Inspector]

3. Yeah, I see your point

but I wanted the MAIN reasons of DUers. You did make me realize that I didn't leave the option not to impeach out of the poll, will fix that now.

[supernova]

5. Voted for stealing elections

Since that was the granddaddy sin.

[wildhorses]

8. me too. it was the start of the rest of this mess.

one thing led to another and so forth and so on:hi:

[tridim]

2. I voted for the Iraq war lies..

But I want all of them in the articles of Impeachment.

[Captain Angry]

4. Katrina.

You can delude yourself into war. But that takes help.

You cannot leave your own citizens to die in their own city. He is the President and should have had EVERYTHING there. He could have had supplies on stand by. He could have had doctors lined up. He could have done ANYTHING other than pretend to play guitar at McCain's birthday party or whatever it was.

[Truthiness Inspector]

6. Oh boy, my poll is off to the land of many edits lol

[RufusTFirefly]

9. Yeah, but the "beauty" of Katrina is...

... that however damaging it was to Bush, it still manages to reinforce the right-wing meme: "Gubmint bureaucrats can't be trusted to oversee the health and welfare of the Murican people. Let the market take care of it."

While Michael "you're doin' a heckuva job" Brown was making a mess of FEMA efforts (by design, I would suggest), the wonderful free-market powerhouse Wal-Mart (missing its ground-breaking former board member, of course) was making sure that bottled water reached needed areas. Gol-durned gubmint! Thank Dog for Wal-Mart!

Not only is the situation during Katrina not an impeachable offense, but Monkey Boy can actually use it as proof that we need to privatize everything from Social Security to our soldiers to our water supply.

[Captain Angry]

11. I realize it is not an impeachable offense by itself.

But it showed that day, that more than any other time, we had no President. No plan, and no care for our fellow citizens at a national level. He abdicated his office on that day.

I realize what Katrina was used for, and continues to serve as for them.

But none of that changes the fact that the President of the United States wasn't mad enough. A human President would have pissed off his secret service detachment when he hopped in a car and started driving there. ANYTHING to help.

That White House is awfully big. He probably could have put a few of the people that had been left for dead in some nice digs for a while.

[elocs]

22. Right, Katrina was a major screw-up, but not an impeachable offense. n/t

[Poiuyt]

7. I think starting a war is the most important, but I think there are other crimes

that might be more easy to prove, e.g. spying on Americans without a warrant, torture in violation of the Geneva Convention, suspension of habeas corpus, etc. I think his biggest Constitutional crime as far as Iraq goes is when he diverted money allocated for Afghanistan to go to Iraq without Congressional approval.

[nam78_two]

10. Suppression of Climate Change Science

I honestly think that that will affect future generations more than anything else he has done.

[pinto]

12. As we all know, the Constitution is pretty vague:

Article II. Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

[Truthiness Inspector]

14. It isn't vague at all

Aside from conviction being a necessary element, my question to DUers was as stated in my OP.

[pinto]

17. Then I would have to say there is no clear one, re: Mr. Bush. He has

routinely been an absentee landlord as far as the responsibility and accountability of the Presidency goes. If those are grounds, I say go for it, but I think not. I favor addressing the powers that be, not the talking head.

I support impeachment of Mr. Cheney on direct obstruction of justice.

I support continued oversight on the federal bureaucracy and increased action to stem the political manipulation of departments along idealogical grounds.

[Truthiness Inspector]

25. Platitudes

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?

Do you support the Constitution at all?

[elocs]

23. Conviction is an afterthought, if even that, for most screaming for impeachment.

We could have done impeachment at the beginning of the year and it would be all over now with Bush serving the remainder of his term. Then there would be a lot of unhappy campers here.

[chknltl]

13. "Other" because:

Yes there are a whole lot of reasons to support impeachment. More importantly there are a some VERY URGENT issues facing our world today: Overpopulation, Global Warming, The Iraq War, The million plus refugees from the Iraq War, A destabilized Middle East, Darfur, An out of control Military Industrial Complex, an out of control Oil Industry, Depleted Uranium Oxide poisons much of Iraq and Afghanistan, (and here at home DU OXIDE has infected many of our vets as well), the affects of Hurricane Katrina and Global terrorism just to name but a few of the more critical issues! To me EACH of these issues are much more important than impeachment but: every effort by WE THE PEOPLE to do something about them is being attenuated through the bush administration. Before any realistic resolutions can be undertaken, the bush administration must first be removed.

So my primary reason for removing bush and cheney is so we can get on with healing our planet for future generations. To me any other reasons are secondary. Yeah, I am that guy who is more concerned with the future generations than I am with the current one...by fixing the current one we make things easier for those future generations, that fix only BEGINS with impeachment. There is MUCH yet to be done my fellow DUers.

[zonmoy]

15. other

for the simple reason of turning our country into a fascistic cleptocratic dictatorship.

[Swamp Rat]

16. Katrina

[lligrd]

18. I Have Been Wondering Which Of The Many Crimes

they will eventually be impeached for. Will Congress just pick one or investigate a multitude of them?

[Truthiness Inspector]

20. And you raise a very important question

wanting a conviction is very different than securing one.

In order to convict you must establish the elements of the crime(s) beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal court.

To demand otherwise would subvert our Constitution.

[lligrd]

21. I'm Not Worried About A Conviction

There is already ample evidence for many of their crimes and any competent investigation should turn up plenty more.

[Truthiness Inspector]

29. Equal justice?

Look at what you just typed and apply it elsewhere. Our Constitution means something, even if you are willing to shit all over it.

[lligrd]

30. What The Heck Is Your Point??

Apply ample evidence of guilt elsewhere? How in the hell is that chitting on the Constitution? The Constitution does not exempt one from impeachment because of ample evidence of one's crimes. In fact, it demands it. Why are you so scared of impeachment?

[TheBaldyMan]

19. other: treating the U.S. Constitution like toilet paper n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

24. I WANT IMPEACHMENT and I THINK WE CAN SELL IT IF...

We attach to our demands SPECIFIC charges. No prosecutor will bring charges he/she knows won't result in conviction. I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. THAT AIN'T WORKIN' now, nor will it ever. Americans want, thrive on, demand SPECIFICS. Hell, we have a state that prides itself in the notion that if they can't SEE it, it ain't real. Even though I'm a Left Coast native, I suscribe to that very notion.

Saying "HE LIED! ain't good enough. Saying but but but DICK shot a friend of his while he was drunk AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH. Screaming at the top of our lungs "but but but HE lied us into war" AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

What we need to do is to outline SPECIFIC clauses in the Constitution, the US Code, and hell, even local Washington DC laws that can be used to prosecute this dickhead. Make no mistake, I want him standing in front of Judges at The Hague answering for what he's done. But we'll NEVER sell it to the American Public unless we can attach our beliefs to SPECIFIC codes.

Impeach Him! isnt' going to wash with the great unwashed. Codes. Doowah.section8/paragraph x WILL.

Where the fuck are progressive lawyers who can give us a LIST of SPECIFICS that can be used to impeach the chimperor? He lied! doesn't work. I promise.

A specific LIST of charges according to CODE will get the attention of the good people of the United States. Nothing less.

WE CAN SELL THIS TO THE PUBLIC IF WE MARKET IT RIGHT. Specifics.

[Hippo_Tron]

26. The first one is the only link that way may have to Bush

All of the ones listed other that will never make it to the top. We've already seen how the CIA leak case just ends with a fall guy taking all of the blame.

Lying isn't a crime inherently though. Conspiracy to defraud Congress and the American People probably is, though.

[FourScore]

27. LIHOP/MIHOP n/t

[upi402]

28. Lying us and CONGRESS into war

Bad thing, me thinks.

[Truthiness Inspector]

31. Congrress was lied into war?

You sure you wanna go there?

[Robbien]

32. Turning government of American people into a GOPer only government

We now live in a totalitarian state.

[focusfan]

33. How about all of the above

[ThomWV]

34. Domestic Spying - undeclared war against the citizens of this country

With the warrantless syping program Bush put the forces of the US Government at war with the American people.

[B Calm]

35. It would help to restore our once good name with the rest of the world!