Husband of Sex Teacher Turned Her In

[The Straight Story]

Husband of Sex Teacher Turned Her In

Kelly Christine Spaich

Three days after former Roseville teacher Kelly Spaich pleaded no contest to unlawful sex with a 16-year-old former student, her husband has confirmed he's the one who turned her in to police last March.

"I did the right thing," said Jon Spaich, in an exclusive interview with News10. "She preyed on that child, I believe, and she walks around like nothing has ever happened and has shown no remorse whatsoever."

"(There's) not only one victim, like a 16-year-old boy, but there was (sic) plenty of others: our daughter, the boy's family, my family and myself," said Spaich, 29. The couple, now going through a divorce, has a 13-month-old daughter.

On Tuesday, Kelly Spaich, 28, pleaded no contest to a felony of unlawful sex with a minor. She was sentenced to four months in jail but the judge declared her eligible for alternative sentencing, which could include home detention with electronic monitoring. She was also put on four years probation and ordered to serve 400 hours of community service.

http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=29997

[devilgrrl]

1. ...

.:blush:

[GRLMGC]

2. nevermind nt

[devilgrrl]

3. oh my...

dyslexia strikes again. :blush:

[Owlet]

5. Nope

"The couple, now going through a divorce, has a 13-month-old daughter." So she was 24 something and he 26+. I can't tell you how many times I've done the same thing..:)

[Robb]

4. Apparently hell hath some fury like a woman scorned after all. nt

[madrchsod]

6. she`s not required to registor?

dam she should thank her lucky stars she did`t have to...

[poverlay]

9. I think you meant registEr...and she should have to because 16 year olds all over the country are

going to want her as their teacher...

[poverlay]

7. If my wife chose a 16 yo over me I'd probably have some issues too... How embarrasing for him. n/t

[TahitiNut]

50. Hogwash.

How "embarassing" is it for the wife when a husband cheats? We are responsible for OUR OWN behavior - and only partially responsible for the behavior of our children. A wife is not a child.

[The Stranger]

57. You may very well have issues, but this is about a crime and justice.

And not serving time for rape is unconscionable.

[High Plains]

67. Please. You do a disservice calling this "rape."

Next you'll tell me this 16-year-old will be traumatized for life, his life ruined.

Statutory rape is not the same thing as rape. At least, it shouldn't be.

[The Stranger]

97. Statutory rape has been on the books for a long, long time.

If you don't like it, write your Congressmen. Maybe the Democrats will pass a non-binding resolution about the issue.

And that kid may very well be psychologically impacted by these events. Sex can mean different things to different people. Being flip about it without knowing all the facts (or pretending to know the future) is irresponsible.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. There is a young woman teacher (24) in my son's HS that was recently suspended for inappropriate

behavior with a 16 year old male student. The district has an emergency system that contacts every home, and used it to inform the parents that they've dealt with the problem.

Is this becoming an epidemic, or are cases now being reported?

BTW... I guess it didn't make the national news because she's not a gorgeous blonde!

[LisaL]

11. I don't know if there are a lot more of these cases or they are

just being reported more.
Certainly we hear a couple of times a month of some woman accused of having sex with her underage student.

[Madspirit]

12. I Think

I think older male teachers have been doing this with teenage girls for forever. ...and occasionally older gay males with teen boys. Now that women are doing it with boys it's making headlines. I think that's peculiar. I guess the idea of "Madonna" as a predator...I don't know, some backasswards, sinister oddly skewed psychological phenomena in our culture.

Regardless of the configuration of coupling, having sex with a child is EVIL and the person doing it is ILL and there should be mandatory treatment and pedophiles, which INCLUDE LOLITAPHILES, should be kept away from children. I don't believe in prisons; I believe in hospitals because almost all sexual predators, particularly pedophiles, were victimized themselves...but kids have a right to be safe and so the predator should be locked away in a treatment facility.

Lee

[LisaL]

14. How do you propose to treat pedophiles? Do you know of

any treatments that work?

[Madspirit]

24. No

Most sex crimes have high recidivism rates. There are few viable treatments. The ones that do exist, ones that were created and implemented in the 60s and 70s, are time and labor intensive and few shrinks are that devoted any more. Treatments like regressing and re-raising the patient, treatments that take years and often the psychiatrist or psychiatric team, would take the patient into their homes, etc. are some of the only treatments shown to be effective in any kind of long-term and deeply-felt way. Most workers in these fields are no longer willing to make those kinds of sacrifices. At present, those are the only kinds of treatment that have shown a significant reduction in the pathology, a true change, a healing. Behavioral techniques, such as aversion therapy, etc., in my opinion, ultimately only make things MUCH worse and the person MUCH more dangerous. As things are right now, I would probably have them in a hospital for life. A HOSPITAL...a HUMANE place.

To hate pedophiles and to want to hurt them or to want to see them being mistreated in our barbaric prison system...well, you might as well go into a room full of tiny children who have been rescued from sexual abuse and shoot about a third of them because the odds are, about a third of those children will grow up and victimize other children. It truly is a cycle. It doesn't come from nothing. That it's a moral weakness or an EVIL of some kind is Republican spin. It's the same spin they have about most mental illnesses...because locking someone up or killing them is less tiresome and expensive than actually caring and having compassion.

...but the world is only going to get scarier and scarier, with many on the Left adopting the same pound-of-flesh, punitive, lack of depth and compassion attitude of the Right Wing. Tormenting people who have already been tormented...where's the good in that? Where's the change? Where's the health? Where's the compassion? Where's the Science? Where's the Mercy?

Abuse is a cycle and a sickness.

Lee

[dsc]

22. I think women did it before

just that teen boys were more discrete about it. I also think that news networks look for things which will hook viewers. When I was in school if a female teacher did this she would likely have been quietly forced out and that would have been that.

[Madspirit]

26. True and Not

Well yeah...always has existed and always will but still, the largest number of pedophiles, in all walks of life, are men with girls, by HUGE amounts... It's even been considered culturally
Okey dokey at times...Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, raise your wife right...blech....

Lee

[dsc]

28. Lets face it talent gets you priviledges

though my grandmother creeped me out a while ago when she described my grandfather "falling in love with her" when he was 20 and she was 10 though they did wait until she was 20 to get married or to act on it in any other way. She considered it romantic and I nearly barfed. Admittedly this would have been 85 years ago but still, creepy.

On edit we just had a case out of Wilmington NC where a male teacher and cross country coach married his 16 year old former student (the parents signed for this to happen) and then he quit teaching. No charges.

[LWolf]

65. All teachers have to walk a fine line with adolescents.

Adolescents, male and female, are hard-wired to pay attention to hormones, to experiment with the power of their own sexuality.

They will repeatedly step over the line with any relatively young, attractive teacher. Not consciously, for the most part, but that tension is still there. The teacher who does not recognize and pre-emptively deal with the potential for disaster by setting clear boundaries is a fool.

The other side of that coin is the use of authority/power to sexually manipulate an adolescent, whether it ever involves contact or not.

The issue is always there. The larger the population becomes, the more students, the more schools, the more teachers, the more you might hear about.

Our culture of sexual exploitation might make those boundaries less defined and more often violated, as well.

[Rosemary2205]

10. FOUR MONTHS!!! ???????

Genarlow Wilson got 10 fucking years for having sex with a girlfriend 1 yr younger than him.

Gawd..........

[LisaL]

13. Her husband is unhappy with her light sentence too.

[Frogger]

15. Hell hath no

fury like a husband scorned.

4 months in jail. Wonder what it would be like if it had been the husband charged with this offense? 20 years. It's a woman's world}(

[Toasterlad]

16. Speaking as a Former 16 Year Old Boy

Unless she tied him down and was forcing things up his ass while he was screaming "NO!", he wasn't a victim.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. As a teacher I couldn't disagree with you more

She is (was) a professional and she had an obligation to maintain a PROFESSIONAL relationship with her students. This is taught day one in teacher school. But by yielding to her own temptations, she has trashed her reputation, ruined her career and shamed the profession. And I condemn her and all other teachers who exploit students sexually.

[Toasterlad]

51. He Wasn't Her Student at the Time of the Affair

If that were the case, I might agree with you that she was abusing her authority. However, it is not.

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. That doesn't matter

just as it doesn't matter whether a kid abused by a priest is a member of his parish.

I treat ALL kids as if they were my students. Nearly 30 years and that policy has never served me wrong.

The really large problem here is that those of us who do NOT abuse kids are penalized by the actions of idiots like this. We are now discouraged from ever touching kids. Can you imagine not being able to pat a kid on his/her back? Or having to push kids away when they offer a hug? If it wasn't for predators like this teacher, I could return those hugs and offer those pats on the back. So yes, I condemn and I curse her.

[Toasterlad]

55. It's Unfortunate That You Can't Be Physically Encouraging to Your Students

But that doesn't make this woman a pedophile. It's unfortunate that our society is so hung up on sex that we equate sexual intimacy with abuse. But it's not this woman's fault.

Apparently, she broke the law because the age of consent is above sixteen in her state. That is all she is guilty of.

She did not abuse this young man. She did not betray his trust. He was a consenting partner in their relationship, and to suggest otherwise is to say that he is incapable of judgment, discernment, or any emotional stability whatsoever. A sixteen year old is generally NOT a helpless child.

I can understand that, as a teacher, you have a biased eye. However, the simple fact is that this young man has not suffered at all from the experience, unless he lets well-meaning people convince him that that he has been "damaged" somehow by his relationship with this woman, simply because he wasn't biologically two years older.

[proud2BlibKansan]

62. Well we will have to agree to disagree

I believe she violated a trust. His age is not important.

[Toasterlad]

63. I Respect and Sympathize With Your Opinion

As I said, if she were his teacher at the time, I'd have more of a problem with it. I can also see how it casts an unfair light on all teachers when one teacher has inappropriate relations with a student. I just don't believe this woman did anything wrong, except in the strictly legal sense (for which she was legally punished).

[The Stranger]

59. Oh god. We have to go through posters' teenage fantasies here again?

[Toasterlad]

61. It's Called Reality.

As a teenager, I never had a teacher that I was sexually attracted to (me being gay and most of my high school teachers being nuns probably had something to do with it). I'm not speaking from fantasy, I'm speaking from reality. A sixteen year old male having consensual sex with a twenty-four year old woman is NOT child abuse.

[Yukari Yakumo]

64. Depends...

She looks OK... from the neck up.

Though I could imagine something like your scenario happening if she weighed over 300 pounds.

[rucky]

17. This is why men move to Alaska. n/t

[terisan]

18. Whiney crybaby husband who spied on his wife and then turned her in to police.

He is now complaining that he is victmized because of the publicity. He probably could have saved himself the publicity if he simply confronted his wife and/or notified the boy's parents.

I think this is a moral issue, and it was probably unwise for the husband to turn it into a legal issue.

He certainly is vindictive.

[BrutalEntropy]

19. for crying out loud

She was in a position of authority and, regardless of the general stereotype of boys being sex crazed lunatics, she abused that authority to have sexual relations with someone she was in charge of *taking care of*.

Would you be saying the same thing if this teacher were a male, the student was a female, and the teacher's wife had turned him in? Just curious.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I Realize The Double Standard

That being said I wish some of my high school teachers would have had sex with me...

[terisan]

33. She was his Former teacher and the charge was unlawful sex with minor not person in authority

As a FORMER teacher she was not in a position of authority over him.
I would feel the same way if the adult was a male and the minor was sixteen years old.

In our society many sixteen year olds have sex and often the partner is not a minor.

A generation or so ago it was not uncommon for 16 year old females to marry 24 year old (and older) males. I believe that many of these partners had sexual contact of some kind before marriage. Were all those men sexual predators? I think not.

[dsc]

34. If she taught in the same school then she was in a position of authority

A few years ago a 23 year old male teacher was busted for having sex with a 16 year old male he met on the internet. He got jail time despite not having that child in class and that the child told him he was 18.

[terisan]

37. The charge was unlawful sex with minor not person in authority.

It was against the law in the state in which they lived. Therefore she was tried and convicted.
There are young children all over the US who are sexually abused and I would prefer to focus on helping them rather than focusing on this type of situation.

[terisan]

48. Teachers are licensed professionals and have to abide by the ethical standards set by their

profession and the reasonable rules set by their school districts. The profession should have restrictions on sexual contact or romantic relationships between teachers and adolescents and sanctions against teachers who violate them, including loss of license to teach.
The school boards or districts should also have rules and be able to sanction or fire teachers who violate them.

If the age of consent for sexual relations were 16 years old, as it is in England, Scotland, and Wales, this teacher could could be punished by her profession or school district if they had appropriate sanctions in place.

If the state in which this teacher lives were to change the legal age of consent next year to 16, as is common in western industrialized countries, this teacher would not be charged for the crime she was charged with. That is why I am not overly concerned with her crime until I know more of the facts.
I do think she knowingly broke the law, was justly convicted, and seems to have been fairly punished.

I would rather focus on the horrific incidents of child abuse in our country and figure out how to prevent them.

I don't think this particular news story is worth more than two sentences of print and deflects attention from the horrific cases.

[dsc]

82. I am not enamoured of England in this regard

since I would get charged in this senario while she wouldn't (age of conscent for same sex relationships is 18 there). In any case a teacher is different and should be treated differently by law, just like a therapist would be.

[Mike Daniels]

40. deleted

[Richard Steele]

23. So you don't think teachers who do this should face charges. WOW.

"I think this is a moral issue, and it was probably unwise for the husband to turn it into a legal issue.

Just...fucking...wow. :wow:

[terisan]

35. Read the article. She was his FORMER teacher, not his teacher.

Presumably he was more than a few years out from being her student. I see it as a case of a 24 year old and a 16 year old having a relationship while one of them was married. A matter of morality.

Sixteen year olds can get married in some states in the US. What if this couple got married and had sex---would that be illegal.

[Richard Steele]

43. Still a teacher. One who couldn't keep her hands off a 16-year-old. That's not OK.

I doubt your pooh-poohing of this is going to
find much support here.

[wicket]

91. It's not a matter of morality - it's child rape!

The crime took place in California where the age of consent is 18.

[terisan]

70. There are children who read DU posts; do you think you might clean up your language ?

[Richard Steele]

72. So it's OK with you when children have sex with teachers, but you WORRY when they see profanity?

Give me a fucking break. :eyes:

[terisan]

76. You misstate my position. Try stating yours without using f**kin' as an adjective.

This woman, who happens to be a teacher, broke the law concerning sex with a minor-defined in her state as a person under 18 years of age. She was convicted and punished. Apparently she was not charged with a crime relating to the fact she was a teacher, nor was she charged with rape.

In many other western industrialized countries she apparently would not be charged at all because the legal age of consent for sexual relations-for example in England and Scotland -is 16.

She did knowingly break the law here and is suitably punished. She also broke her marriage vows and committed adultery (which used to be a crime in parts of the US but is longer considered a crime or is not prosecuted).
The husband was unhappy with what he considered her light sentence and is giving press interviews. I would like to hear from the judge. I suspect he had good reason for the supposedly light sentence.

I think focusing on this type of case acts as a substitute for focusing on the many horrendous cases of child sexual abuse that occur every day and does nothing to prevent them.

If you have read all of the comments on this thread you will some similar opinions.

[Richard Steele]

83. I didn't misstate, I requested clarification. Hence the "?". And my OPINION: you're bullshitting me.

Your original complaint about my use of the word "fucking"
was in response to my 1st question about what you were saying.

You typed that complaint INSTEAD OF answering the question.
You could have done BOTH, you know. But you didn't.

I can't help but suspect that your complaint about my use
of the English language MIGHT have been motivated less by
a deep and unusually noble concern for the well-being of
web-surfing children than by an understandably prosaic
desire to divert our conversation away from the uncomfortable
question I had posited.

Have you registered similar indignation to EVERY example
of "profanity" you've encountered here at DU? It hardly seems
likely that such is the case- if t'were, your post-count would
needs be much higher!
You wanna worry about "the children"? I worry about the children.
Let's worry about the children TOGETHER, shall we?

I certainly -DO NOT- worry that the most fearsome thing they
could encounter on THIS thread is a fully-spelled example of the
word "fucking".

Seriously, given the TOPIC here, do you really think a single profane
WORD is worthy of notice? We are discussing the instance of an EDUCATED ADULT,
whose chosen profession places them in a position of authority over
children, having sex with a CHILD.

And you expect me to believe that a child reading this will be harmed
by viewing the word "fucking"?
More to the point: do you honestly expect ME to believe that YOU believe that?
I don't. I'm not buying it, so you should stop trying to sell it.

I actually DO believe that this thread could be harmful to children, y'know.

NOT because they could learn that an "Authority Figure" who sexually
exploited a child was discovered, exposed and chastised;
and certainly not because they could learn that "fucking" is sometimes
used as an emphasis-enhancing adjective.

No, the real FEAR I would have, for an impressionable young person
reading this DU thread, is that they might leave it with this notion:
"An adult who reports the criminal sexual exploitation of a child
to the proper authorities is just a SPYING WHINY CRYBABY".

That's the kind of HORRIBLY EVIL AND DANGEROUS FUCKING BULLSHIT IDEA that actual
child molesters would just LOVE every child to believe.

And if any child gets that notion from reading this thread,
it won't be ME they get it from, now will it?

By the way, my profanity-concerned fellow DUer, may I ask what do you do for a living?
I'm a self-employed artisan myself; how 'bout you?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[ShaneGR]

36. It's a MAJOR CRIME to abuse a minor....

Why is it any different for a woman to do it? If this had been a man, he's be headed to a LENGTHY jail sentence.

[terisan]

38. I dispute that a man in this situation would be facing a lengthy jail sentence.

Some men would, others wouldn't. It depends on where one lives.

[TnDem]

41. Confronted her?

And then ended up with a domestic violence charge for "confronting her"?...

No, he handled this bad situtation as best as was possible.

[terisan]

84. You raise a good point. By confronting I meant communicating directly with his spouse

about his suspicions. Possibly he did and that just hasn't been reported in the article. I hadn't considered that he might have had fears about retaliation through false accusations.

[Heidi]

44. Abuse of power is an ethical issue,

and if you think a student's former teacher has no capacity to wield power, you are very much mistaken. Further, if you think an attractive 24-year-old year old woman isn't aware that she can exercise a great deal of control over a horny 16-year-old, again, you are very much mistaken. :hi:

[Katherine Brengle]

88. If the genders were reversed here, this conversation would look very different.

If a male teacher had engaged in this kind of activity with a female student, he would not be looked on so kindly. And if his wife turned him in, she'd be a hero for getting him away from children.

Hypocrisy.

[Beelzebud]

98. Wow...

I guess women can do no wrong.

[dsc]

21. let me be blunt here

I could be a clone of Brad Pitt and if I had sex with a 16 year old female student of mine I would be in jail for a very long time and if I had sex with a male 16 year old student there would be tomatoes growing on Mars before I got out of jail but she gets at most 4 months and apparently that will be suspended. Give me a break.

[Swamp Rat]

25. LOL!

"there would be tomatoes growing on Mars before I got out of jail" :rofl:

Sorry, serious topic, but your line hit my funny bone. :D

[dsc]

32. admittedly it was a law and order line

but it is true.

[jpgray]

29. Yep

[TahitiNut]

52. Agreed. The inequity in sentencing is abominable.

:puke:

[RB TexLa]

27. Guess that's one way to assure yourself of winning child custody

[dsc]

30. Sorry but this woman deserves to lose her freedom

not just her children. She slept with a child under her charge.

[RB TexLa]

31. I didn't say she didn't

[muriel_volestrangler]

39. She's a middle school teacher; the boy was 16

Her school appears to teach grades 6 to 8: http://www.drycreek.k12.ca.us/silverado/School%20Pages/schoolframe.htm

So it's extremely unlikely he was still under her charge.

[jackbourassa]

42. This is stupid...

To call this child abuse is to undermine REAL child abuse victims. I guarantee you that the "boy" or "near man" was a VERY WILLING PARTICIPANT.

He was younger by 8 years; had her as a teacher a few years before; and her spiteful husband, ego wounded, decided to turn her in.

Here's some info for you: I had a short affair with one of my high school's substitute teachers when I was 17 and she was 26. She was best friends with my cousin's girlfriend's older sister. We'd go over her sister's house to hang out, since we weren't old enough to drink in bars, etc. We'd all hang out there together. My cousin and I were in a band together and they'd come and watch us play sometimes. We became close.

I wasn't traumatized. I actually enjoyed it.

[Toasterlad]

47. Totally Agree

Nothing a 16 year old boy consents to sexually is abuse.

[Heidi]

45. An authority figure's power to manipulate

does not end when his or her students move on to the next classroom.

[muriel_volestrangler]

46. Next school, in this case

It's possible there was manipulation, but by no means certain. We'd have to know specifics about what started when.

[Divernan]

93. Like Mark Foley - contacted young men AFTER they were pages.

He trolled the underage pages/cultivated them/etc., and then hit on them once they finished the page program. So she can screen the middle grades for hitting on her students when they're in high school.

[muriel_volestrangler]

95. You're hypothesising about a situation we don't know

We have no idea if she cultivated him, if he made the first move, or what. It would be naive to imagine that 16 year old boys never feel an attraction to women in their mid to late twenties on their own accord, without encouragement. A look at the typical posters 16 year old boys have on their walls should tell you that.

[NoodleyAppendage]

54. She should have thought about that before becoming a PEDOPHILE.

She's a pedophile, pure and simple. If you can't understand that, then you have a problem as well.

J

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

69. I balk at lumping people who have sex with 16yos with others that have sex with 5yos. -nt

[Generic Brad]

74. Then where should we draw the line?

As a society we have agreed that it is 18. So 18 it is.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

85. Two things:

1) There should be more than one line.
2) IMHO, the last of such lines should be drawn at 16. YMMV.

[dysfunctional press]

87. puberty would be a good start.

there is no one magic "age", but it's kind of ludicrous to call someone having sex with a 16-year old a pedophile.

[muriel_volestrangler]

96. Which society?

In your state of Minnesota, the age of consent is 16.

[RB TexLa]

73. Actually, sexual attraction to 16 year olds doesn't meet the standard for pedophilia

It does meet the standard for various crimes, I however made no mention of her actions. I was commenting on the husband being the one to turn her in.

And yes I do understand that she is and should be responsible for her actions. I find it very odd that you somehow got that I think otherwise from my post since my post mentioned nothing to do with what she did but what he did.

[mitchum]

80. Correct, but it is ephebephilia (n/t)

[LostinVA]

92. I don't think she's a pedophile

Not everyone who has sex with minors and/or molests minors is a pedophile. Pedophilia is considered a pathology/personality disorder. That's probably why her sentence was four months: psychiatrists found that she WASN'T a pedophile, that this was a "one off."

Having said that, I'm not excusing what this woman did.

[Beelzebud]

99. Perhaps she should have considred that before cheating on him with a student...

[Algorem]

56. i'd have to give her an f

[BringEmOn]

58. I guess he couldn't turn her on so he had to turn her in.

[Beelzebud]

100. Yeah, it's his fault. He should go to jail for allowing this to happen!

[depakid]

60. The husband sure is a whiner-

with that sort of attitude, no wonder she cheated on him.

[JANdad]

90. Are you kidding?

She started this affair when their daughter was 4 months old...

By most ob/gyn's you need to wait 3 months for intercourse...

She didn't waste any time did she? Do you have any idea how hurt this man must be? Are you by any chane "Bob" from Oakland in the article responses?

Do you have children??? Are you married???

Your lack of empathy is truly disturbing!

[Beelzebud]

101. What attitude would that be?

The attitude of "Fuck a student, I'll turn you in"

Can women EVER do the wrong thing, or is it somehow ALWAYS the man's fault?

[Yukari Yakumo]

66. An interesting little tidbit...

Age of Consent laws:


If this happened in neighboring Nevada instead, would anyone have ever heard about it?

[terisan]

77. Thanks for this map showing age of consent by state varies from 16 to 17 to 18 years old.

Facts are so helpful.

[Midlodemocrat]

68. I started teaching high school when I was 21.

I had 18 year 'men' in my class. At the time, I was a lot cuter than I am now and some of the boys were definitely crushing on me.

I was in between relationships at the time, but it NEVER, EVER occured to me to have a relationship with a student. Regardless of his age. There is an issue of trust and abuse of power and that is a line I would never ever have crossed.

I have a 15yo son and a soon to be 17yo daughter and you can bet your ass if a teacher ever took advantage of them like this woman did, I would be all over them like a cheap suit.

[GaYellowDawg]

79. GREAT post.

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[HuffleClaw]

71. *snicker* suuuuuure he was all concerned for 'the child' n/t

[LisaL]

75. If a woman turned in her husband for having inappropriate

relationships with a 16 year old ex-student, would you snicker the same thing?

[terisan]

78. I am reminded that a former teacher of Monica Lewinsky confessed to an affair

with her when she was a teenager. He made his confession on camera with his wife (looking none to happy) at his side.

Brings back memories of the sex-obsessive craziness of the Republican during that impeachment.

Remember when Newt Gingrich released the full report, making Congress the foremost publisher of salacious material in the US.

[Katherine Brengle]

89. ditto. nt

[mitchum]

81. To her defenders: She broke the law. If you don't agree with that law...

why don't you publicly(and I don't mean on an anonymous message board)advocate for that law being repealed? Surely you wouldn't be embarrassed by such an undertaking, would you?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

86. I don't thing uttering "I think the age of consent should be 16" is reason for embarassment.

In fact, it IS at that age and even lower in many places.

[terisan]

94. It seems age of consent in my state is 16,so she would not be charged with this specific crime here.

The age of consent seems to vary by a few years from state-to-state.

I don't consider myself a defender. The fact is she broke a law of California, where she lives, and is paying a price.

I wouldn't be embarassed to participate in a civic discussion concerning age of consent for sexual relations or age for marriage. I think citizen involvement is important in setting these standards.

[cgrindley]

102. Good for him

She should have gone away for life.