Since I am so suspicious and untrusting of any government agency -

[blues90]

I brought up a topic about Chinas goods , you know the toxic pet food and now many other products . Now I am not a pro here nore do I doubt there was toxic crap in the petfood and lead in the paint on toys .

But I still have to wonder and question who may be behind this .

I question is it China or some US firm trying to foul up the trade . It may be for any reason , we do owe them money and it is quite possible someone is pulling something .

I mean , who can really say when what we have here in the US nothing but a long list of corrupt criminals and no real way of finding out the truth and no real media even if they knew , would dare to tell us .

It's just a thought , something to pile onto the many criminal issues and hidden agenda's that seem to flow out of a sewage pipe on a daily basis . Call it corporate greed call it lies for profit , call it whatever you want .

If you are an open minded liberal then you know where I am coming from , it's like , who do ya trust ?

[mrcheerful]

1. The simple fact of this isn't anyone trying to harm out sourcing to China,

it all boils down to cheapest way to make a product and counting on Reagans deregulation of product safety and chimps firing of inspectors is what caused this shit to happen.

[blues90]

2. That's true however

wouldn't you think China would try at least to stay in the game by not shipping poison or do you feel china knowing our poor or lack of regulation makes it easy for them to get away with this ?

Sooner or later somethings going to explode and someone beside the uninformed american consumer will lose . Of course ,considering the cheap labor cost and quality of their products the US is not losing much money .

[mrcheerful]

3. To be honest what I see imho is China doing exactly what the US did to the USSR

remember China's government only cares about the down fall of america. China is engaged in a economic war against america and the stupid american businesses are helping them win. Cheap labor + cheap products = trade deficits. Why would the Chinese government care what harm their products do to others, neither does america's business government. They sell bad products over seas and have been for a long time.

[blues90]

4. True , I'm not up enough on history to say much .

I always felt Japan was trying to do to China as america tried with Japan because most brands that used to be made in Japan are now made in China . Like sony and many other brands .

I do know China has no respect for their own people much like america has truely become .

I have enough trouble keeping up with has gone to hell in america as it is . My back still hurts from all the duck and cover events .