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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 03:02 PM
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NOBODY MARCHED TO IMPEACH BILL CLINTON!
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NOBODY MARCHED TO IMPEACH BILL CLINTON!

Submitted by Linda Milazzo on Sun, 2007-07-08


NOBODY marched to impeach Bill Clinton. Angry citizens DIDN'T fill the streets, carry signs and beg a non-responsive Congress to do its Constitutional duty and remove Bill Clinton from his job. Panels WEREN'T held across the nation, moderated by Constitutional scholars who loved their country so much that they traversed its full span to inform packed audiences of the high crimes Bill Clinton had done.

Nope. That DIDN'T happen.

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The 105th Congress's impeachment of Bill Clinton was an elitist backlash to pummel an Arkansas poor-boy for dethroning the patriarch of the ruling class. Unfortunately, the 110th Congress conforms to the same eliticism, refusing to impugn the progeny of that same ruling class. The collapse of our democracy is in no small part due to the ideological similarities between the Republican and Democratic parties, fueled by cronyism and mutual corporate ties.

Sadly, Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic Congress will rue the day they took impeachment off the table. By disregarding the wishes of The People and making no effort to impeach Bush and Cheney, Speaker Pelosi will go down in history as the Speaker who permitted the most corrupt Administration in American history to perpetrate its crimes. She has secured her legacy as the spineless leader of a spineless Congress that defied the Constitution and sanctioned Bush and Cheney's lies. The 110th Congress and its Speaker have become enablers, accomplices and accessories to the crimes.

The bottom line... Bush and Cheney have eighteen months left to their term. During this time they are capable of many more egregious crimes. Congress's failure to initiate articles of impeachment for Bush and Cheney's criminal acts is a breach of Congress's Oath "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic." If Pelosi and the 110th Congress do not uphold this Oath, they have secured their rightful places alongside Bush and Cheney as enemies of the state.

One final note: Members of both the House and the Senate have stated that impeachment is certain to fail. Let it be known that if the current Legislative Branch doesn't make an honest attempt at impeachment, they have already failed.

But If they make an honest, heart-felt and diligent try, even if they fail, at least they have done their job.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 03:07 PM
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1. I believe the constitution says that Impeachment is mandatory, It is NOT optional.
Edited on Sun Jul-08-07 03:07 PM by Vincardog
WE are either a nation ruled by LAWS or by men. I choose LAWS.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 05:20 PM
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6. Someone needs to clue Congress in. nt
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:06 PM
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8. OK Hot Shot, just where does it say it is required. And tell us *verbatim* nt
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:20 PM
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11. Verbatim
Article 2, section 4, requires that 'the President, Vice President, and all civil officers, must be removed from office if they are impeached, and then convicted of, "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".'
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 08:15 PM
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13. perhaps you're misinterpreting this clause:
Article II, Section 4 - Disqualification

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.



"shall" here means that the removal is mandatory, but only IF there has been an impeachment and conviction.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:46 PM
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14. I read it as The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be
removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


They have admitted Treason, as well as violating treaties and the Constitution. Those are high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Thus they shall be Impeachment and Convicted.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 10:38 PM
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15. the key word is "on"
as in, "i shall be a millionaire on winning the lottery." this doesn't mean i am a millionaire because i have not (yet) won the lottery.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 03:09 PM
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2. "At least they have done their job."
That doesn't seem TOO MUCH to expect, does it?

K&R


P.S. Thanks for my 'Nance' card, Babylon Sister!!! Your thoughtfulness through the past few months has been truly appreciated ...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:16 PM
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4. You're very welcome, Nance!
So nice to see you up and about again! :hi: :pals:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 03:59 PM
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3. Nothing ventured nothing gained
This article is taken right from my mind I believe...
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:29 PM
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5. K&R.nt
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:02 PM
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7. K&R
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:11 PM
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9. Of course they didn't march
Conservatives are too lazy. It's a wonder they didn't hire people to march on their behalf! :rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:16 PM
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10. No, but I heard somebody knelt
:hide:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:21 PM
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12. What Clinton did didn't affect the people nor the country.
Edited on Sun Jul-08-07 06:33 PM by Gregorian
There was no interest nor reason to march. On the contrary to Bush and Cheney. What they've done has adversely affected not only the people of America, but the world. Impeachment is just the beginning of their troubles.

Edit- Something else occurs to me. Clinton does not look like a shamed man. Not a man who was impeached. But a man who is proud of his honesty and conviction. That speaks volumes.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 10:58 PM
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16. That's because THE PEOPLE were not the ones calling for Impeachment of Clinton. It was the repukes a
we all know they are sub-human. The repukes in Congress and the repukes who support them are why Clinton was Impeached. He didn't do anything treasonous against this country. That whole thing was for revenge. Revenge for postponing the PNAC agenda. Poppy Psycho was suppose to be prez. It was nothing but a witch hunt.
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