Look who's behind this phony org that attacked Gore yesterday ---> www.demanddebate.com

[Stephanie]

http://www.demanddebate.com/index.html

DemandDebate educates and empowers parents and students about bias in environmental education.
DemandDebate is a non-for-profit, charitable organization that is supported by individuals and organizations.

RestoreGore points out that <www.demanddebate.com> flew a plane over Giants Stadium trailing a banner that said "Don't Believe Al Gore." While there is no identification on the website itself, Steve Milloy registered the URL. He's a RW hack. Below is his bio from Sourcewatch. Who paid for that banner? There are no names, addresses or phone numbers on the website, just a contact form. Below is the link and the whois. Who's paying Steve Milloy to do this? Where's the big brave man who's happy to call Al Gore a liar so long as he can do it anonymously. What weaselly cowards these RW crooks are.

Steven J. Milloy
From SourceWatch

This article is part of the Tobacco documents analysis project sponsored by the American Legacy Foundation. Join our team of citizen journalists researching and exposing tobacco industry secrets.

Steven J. Milloy is a columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an adjunct scholar at the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute.

Milloy runs the website Junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what he alleges to be false claims regarding global warming, DDT, environmental radicalism and scare science among other topics.<1> His other website, CSR Watch.com, is focused around attacking the corporate social responsibility movement. He is also head of the Free Enterprise Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with tobacco executive Tom Borelli, who happens to be listed as the secretary of the Advancement of Sound Science Center, an organisation Milloy operates from his home in Potomac, Maryland .

Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from the Johns Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown University Law Center.<2>

In January 2006, Paul D. Thacker reported in The New Republic that Milloy has received thousands of dollars in payments from the Phillip Morris company since the early nineties, and that NGOs controlled by Milloy have received large payments from ExxonMobil <3>. A spokesperson for Fox News stated, "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any affiliation he had should have been disclosed."

Domain Name.......... demanddebate.com
Creation Date........ 2007-04-17
Registration Date.... 2007-04-17
Expiry Date.......... 2009-04-17
Organisation Name.... Steven Milloy
Organisation Address. P O Box 99800
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. EmeryVille
Organisation Address. 94662
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. US

Admin Name........... PrivateRegContact Admin
Admin Address........ P O Box 99800
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ EmeryVille
Admin Address........ 94662
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ US
Admin Email.......... [e-mail]
Admin Phone.......... [phone]
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ PrivateRegContact TECH
Tech Address......... P O Box 99800
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... EmeryVille
Tech Address......... 94662
Tech Address......... CA
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Tech Email........... [e-mail]
Tech Phone........... [phone]
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
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Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
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for detailed information.

Domain Name: DEMANDDEBATE.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
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>>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:42:28 UTC <<<

[Stephanie]

1. OH LOOKY - Steve Milloy ! ---->>>>

Steven J. Milloy
From SourceWatch

This article is part of the Tobacco documents analysis project sponsored by the American Legacy Foundation. Join our team of citizen journalists researching and exposing tobacco industry secrets.
Steven J. Milloy is a columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an adjunct scholar at the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute.

Milloy runs the website Junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what he alleges to be false claims regarding global warming, DDT, environmental radicalism and scare science among other topics.<1> His other website, CSR Watch.com, is focused around attacking the corporate social responsibility movement. He is also head of the Free Enterprise Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with tobacco executive Tom Borelli, who happens to be listed as the secretary of the Advancement of Sound Science Center, an organisation Milloy operates from his home in Potomac, Maryland .

Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from the Johns Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown University Law Center.<2>

In January 2006, Paul D. Thacker reported in The New Republic that Milloy has received thousands of dollars in payments from the Phillip Morris company since the early nineties, and that NGOs controlled by Milloy have received large payments from ExxonMobil <3>. A spokesperson for Fox News stated, "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any affiliation he had should have been disclosed."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_J._Milloy

[Elspeth]

3. He's from Fox News?

Nice to know how much Murdoch hates Gore.

[robinlynne]

5. funding from exxonmobil says it all...

[Elspeth]

17. Ah

Thanks

[Warpy]

6. Here he is at Wiki

Milloy's financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil companies have been the subject of criticism from a number of sources, in light of his attacks on the science linking secondhand smoke to health risks and human activity to global warming.<3><4><5><6>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Milloy

Typical corporate flack, in other words, hiding behind a reasonable sounding webpage.

[Stephanie]

10. are these people just born evil, or what????

He's like a cartoon villain. Sometimes it's just hard to believe these people really exist. Check out his mutual fund:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Enterprise_Action_Fund

The Free Enterprise Action Fund is a mutual fund operated by Steven Milloy and Tom Borelli, with the aim of counterbalancing the activities ethical investment funds. Whereas 'ethical' funds avoid investments in firms that are accused of damaging the environment, or other unethical behaviour, the Free Enterprise Action Fund seeks out such investments, relying on Milloy's arguments that such criticisms are typically based on political bias or junk science.

[starroute]

20. Here's a pertinent extract from George Monbiot's book

http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/2006/0919denialindustry.htm

The Denial Industry
By George Monbiot
Guardian
September 19, 2006

There are clear similarities between the language used and the approaches adopted by Philip Morris and by the organisations funded by Exxon. The two lobbies use the same terms, which appear to have been invented by Philip Morris's consultants. "Junk science" meant peer-reviewed studies showing that smoking was linked to cancer and other diseases. "Sound science" meant studies sponsored by the tobacco industry suggesting that the link was inconclusive. Both lobbies recognised that their best chance of avoiding regulation was to challenge the scientific consensus. As a memo from the tobacco company Brown and Williamson noted, "Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the 'body of fact' that exists in the mind of the general public. It is also the means of establishing a controversy." Both industries also sought to distance themselves from their own campaigns, creating the impression that they were spontaneous movements of professionals or ordinary citizens: the "grassroots".

But the connection goes further than that. TASSC, the "coalition" created by Philip Morris, was the first and most important of the corporate-funded organisations denying that climate change is taking place. It has done more damage to the campaign to halt it than any other body.

TASSC did as its founders at APCO suggested, and sought funding from other sources. Between 2000 and 2002 it received $30,000 from Exxon. The website it has financed - JunkScience.com - has been the main entrepot for almost every kind of climate-change denial that has found its way into the mainstream press. It equates environmentalists with Nazis, communists and terrorists. It flings at us the accusations that could justifably be levelled against itself: the website claims, for example, that it is campaigning against "faulty scientific data and analysis used to advance special and, often, hidden agendas". I have lost count of the number of correspondents who, while questioning manmade global warming, have pointed me there.

The man who runs it is called Steve Milloy. In 1992, he started working for APCO - Philip Morris's consultants. While there, he set up the JunkScience site. In March 1997, the documents show, he was appointed TASSC's executive director. By 1998, as he explained in a memo to TASSC board members, his JunkScience website\ was was being funded by TASSC. Both he and the "coalition" continued to receive money from Philip Morris. An internal document dated February 1998 reveals that TASSC took $200,000 from the tobacco company in 1997. Philip Morris's 2001 budget document records a payment to Steven Milloy of $90,000. Altria, Philip Morris's parent company, admits that Milloy was under contract to the tobacco firm until at least the end of 2005.

[Stephanie]

21. when they changed their named to "Altria" I just about barfed

but i don't really get why Philip Morris is involved in the global warming issue, do you?

[Phredicles]

37. My guess is that they want to discredit science in general. After all, the same

science that shows evidence of global warming is also saying their precious cigarettes cause cancer.

[mcg]

28. Steven Milloy and junkscience.com

CLEAR PROFILE: STEVEN MILLOY AND JUNKSCIENCE.COM
http://www.trwnews.net/Documents/Dow/junkscicom.htm

' Overview :"Junkman" Steven Milloy has made a career of lobbying for polluting industries, heading corporate front groups to deny environmental concerns, and ridiculing individual environmentalists on behalf of corporate interests. In the world according to Milloy, any scientific study that does not support the world view where all chemicals are safe is "junk science", all environmentalists are alarmist, and pollution and second hand smoke are harmless. The labels fly fast and furious, regardless of where the scientific mainstream falls on an issue and regardless of what point we are at in the scientific discovery process.

Interestingly, Milloy denies he was ever a lobbyist. In 1998, while executive director of the Advancement of Sound Science Coalition, he replied to an inquiry into whether he was a lobbyist: "I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists (whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer work for that firm. I challenge anyone to produce any evidence that I have ever lobbied any government official for anything."

However, Milloy shows up in federal lobbyist registration data for 1997 as having lobbying expenditures on his behalf, indicating his firm, the EOP Group, believed him to be an active lobbyist, "technical" or otherwise. The same federal records indicate Milloy represented the American Petroleum Institute, FMC Corp, Fort Howard, International Food Additives Council, and Monsanto. Interestingly, according to these records, Milloy lobbied for Monsanto on the subject of "food safety and labeling", which is lobbyist speak for "biotech foods". (Center for Responsive Politics, Lobbyist Database) According to the Washington Representatives, Milloy was still registered as a lobbyist with the EOP Group in 1999, with the American Petroleum Institute and FMC Corp listed as clients. (1999 Washington Representatives). ...'

[Stephanie]

29. He's not much of a lobbyist - that was such a dumbass maneuver yesterday.

Flying a plane over a stadium full of fans to call Al Gore a liar? I can't think of anything stupider he could have done. Plus, pointing them to a website that is virtually empty. Just ridiculous.

[Tsiyu]

33. He's just trying to coagulate the Backwash n/t

[mcg]

30. Steve Milloy (aka The Junkman) and His Identity Crisis

Steve Milloy (aka The Junkman) and His Identity Crisis
http://www.prwatch.org/node/1478

"Industry apologist Steven Milloy, formerly a tobacco lackey at The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition and currently a self-proclaimed expert on "junk science," is hiding behind yet another front group. StopLabelingLies.com claims to be dedicated to exposing "examples of false and misleading food and other product labels and their associated marketing campaigns," but its real mission is to attack organic foods on behalf of the biotech industry. As is usually the case with Milloy's web sites, StopLabelingLies.com does not disclose the identity of any of its staff members or financial supporters, but an Internet registry search shows that the domain name is registered to Citizens for the Integrity of Science, a paper organization that Milloy sometimes lists as the sponsor of his other web site, JunkScience.com. By way of content, StopLabelingLies.com prominently features "The Fear Profiteers," which first appeared on yet another, now-defunct Milloy Front Group called NoMoreScares.com, which we debunked in the 3rd Quarter 2000 issue of PR Watch."

---

Info on Citizens for the Integrity of Science:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Citizens_for_the_Integrity_of_Science

---

also at 1155 Connecticut Avenue, N.W., Suite 300, Washington, D.C:

"Institute for Health Freedom" (IHF)
see http://www.ncpa.org/pi/health/pd071599f.html

another disguised lobbyist:
Gio Batta Gori of the "Health Policy Center"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Gio_Batta_Gori
here's Gori writing a 'letter to the editor' at junkscience.com:
http://www.junkscience.com/sep98/scilet.html

[Stephanie]

36. It's just pathetic.

"As is usually the case with Milloy's web sites, StopLabelingLies.com does not disclose the identity of any of its staff members or financial supporters..."

They're such cowards.

[Bonhomme Richard]

2. Try here to start

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steve_Milloy

[Stephanie]

9. yeah thanks - I jsut found that too

unbelieveable.

[silverweb]

4. Good work, Stephanie!

It's always good to see what's in the slime under those lifted rocks.

Another paid corporate shill. What a surprise!

[Stephanie]

12. But what a freaking coward!

Not a single name on the site. Nobody willing to admit they're behind it.

[silverweb]

16. Well, yeah.

These front groups never want their true backing revealed and always masquerade as something they're not.

It's their usual MO, nothing to be surprised about.

[zippy890]

7. Page not found

I went to the website, looked around, no names or anything, sent an e-mail on the site and got this:

'The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. '

Short-lived right wing hackery.

[Stephanie]

13. they must be inundated

probably everybody that was at Live Earth who saw the banner sent them hate mail today.

[robinlynne]

8. I was going to look at the website, but decided not to give them the satisfaction of oe more viewer.

Glad you posted this, so we don't have to go there.

[johnaries]

11. Milloy, huh? Should have known. K&R

:kick:

[Uncle Joe]

14. Thanks for the thread Stephanie and thanks to RestoreGore.

Kicked and recommended.

[trumad]

15. I gotta say Stephanie..

you're the best damn DU citizen investigative reporter around...

[Hissyspit]

18. What a weasel. n/t

[nam78_two]

19. Yup-Steve Milloy, Richard Berman and that whole group

from junkscience.com/ the Centre for Consumer Freedom and other corporate front groups masquerading as legitimate grass-roots groups.
Good post-K&R.

[cosmicdot]

22. IRS regulation 501(c)(3) needs some reform

will those individuals and organizations 'donating' to this 'charitable' organization's little act of treachery get a tax deduction?

Under IRC Section 170, individuals giving to 501(c)(3) organizations that are either public charities, private operating foundations, and certain private foundations may deduct contributions representing up to 50% of the donor's adjusted gross income if the individual itemizes on his tax returns. Individuals giving to 501(c)(3) organizations that are private foundations may generally deduct contributions representing up to 30% of their adjusted gross income. Corporations may deduct all contributions to 501(c)(3) organizations (regardless of foundation status) up to an amount normally equal to 10% of their taxable income.


they 'contribute' money, the money is used to rent the plane, etc.;
and, the contibutors get a tax deduction for contributing to an organization organized under IRS regulation 501(c)(3) as an 'educational' 'charitable' group? what a country!

and such organization are tax exempt, too


wiki info on 501(c)(3) ~ those parens don't link well
http://tinyurl.com/2vlxdh

Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vlxdh


501(c)(3) status for charities and the related section 170 deduction for donors are important to many charitable groups. Some individuals and groups (and virtually all foundations) will not give to a charity if it does not have 501(c)(3) status (as no tax deduction would be allowed). Therefore, loss of this status can be harmful (if not fatal) to a charity's existence.

[bobthedrummer]

39. Absolutely! Kick.

[pamela]

23. Advancement of Sound Science Center? Hehe

He runs the ASS Center from his home? Wow.

[Breeze54]

24. Stephanie Rocks!!!

:yourock: Awesome investigation!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

Milloy Stephanie

:rofl:

K & R'd!

[SpiralHawk]

25. The usual republicon traitors to decency and America - republicon corporate cronies

Why do republicons HATE America and planet Earth?

[Stephanie]

26. Why do they hate their own children?

That's what I don't get.

[EFerrari]

27. Me, either. Do they think they can beam their family to a space station

or :wtf:

[flyarm]

31. they think their underground bunkers will save their sorry asses!!

but their shit is seeping deep within the layers of this earth!!

wow i hate these bastards!!

fly

[Quantess]

32. Nice work, Stephanie!

:toast:

[rosesaylavee]

34. Way to shine a bright light

on these creeps. Have you sent this around to Randy or Keith yet?

Maybe this will help to disinfect?

[StClone]

40. I am pretty sure these guys have been on DU in the past.

Start a DDT thread and often they will reply.

[Stephanie]

41. They must have a lot of time on their hands.

But like their hero, they're basically incompetent.

[Forkboy]

35. Kick...why can't the media do this job?

Thanks Stephanie!

[Javaman]

38. Another pasty faced tool. nt

[Stephanie]

42. Check it out = he's added a photo of his ridiculous banner >>>

http://www.demanddebate.com/index.html

And a reference in this linked article:

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkyNiZmZ2JlbDdmN3ZxZWVFRXl5NzE2NTU0MyZ5cmlyeTdmNzE3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTI=

Seven members of Demanddebate.com, each one wearing an aqua T-shirt that read, "I'm more worried about the intellectual climate," were stationed in the parking lot. On its Web site, the group argues that global warming "suppositions remain highly questionable on scientific grounds."

And a small plane towing a banner supporting the group's message circled the stadium before the music began.

"What we're saying is let's not make knee-jerk decisions," said Mike Seminara of Mount Vernon, N.Y., a member of the group.

[Stephanie]

44. Here's their cowardly banner >>>

Come out from under your rock if you want a DEBATE, Milloy. What are you hiding from?

[bobthedrummer]

43. .

[Skip Intro]

45. A fucking paid advocate for ExxonMobil????

Profit-crazed capitalists who profit from the destruction of the earth fighting a real threat to their continued gross wealth. ExxonMobile flies a flag saying "Don't Believe Al Gore." Fuck the earth, buy our crap!

"Steven J. Milloy is a columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations."

- from the sourcewatch site



It is a pitiful attempt on the part of the oil industry to diminish what incredibly awesome raising of awareness yesterday - damn, Gore, what can you say - everybody's talking and he's doing something, doing something - and some corporations are not happy at all. I wonder how nasty it will all get? And what will be left of the earth when its over.

[Quantess]

46. Not too late for a kick, is it?

[bobthedrummer]

47. .

:dem: