What is more, I personally saw the man do lines of drugs laid out on a bar on Richmond Drive in 1973

[Catherine Vincent]

I respect your right to have an opinion, and I spent 20+ years of my life serving my country so that people could have the right to their own opinion even if I disagree with it.

Be pro-Bush if you like, but never forget that the man is a deserter from the Texas National Guard who only received an honorable discharge because of his father.

What is more, I personally saw the man do lines of drugs laid out on a bar on Richmond Drive in 1973 while I was home on leave.

In addition, to being a deserter, drunk, and a druggie, his number two man is a gutless, five deferrment individual who had too much important drinking to do to server his country during Vietnam.

And, last, but not least, the entire Bush team is a gutless group of wannabe tough guys who keep everything they have done hidden behind presidential secrecy, because they know they will all go to jail if anyone every finds out what has really been said and done behind their closed doors.

Cowards, liars, and con artists hide behind closed doors.

James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret)
7/8/2007 2:44:04 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4950647.html?plckCurrentPage=5

[MadMaddie]

1. It's good the truth is coming from guys like this....but where

were they when * was making his run for the WH....they could have helped to stop him....in his tracks...

[Javaman]

42. Exactly. I think it's just a matter of his koolade wearing off. nt

[Schema Thing]

84. quite possibly, he was writing and calling the media

and was summarily ignored, just like all the good people who where not pro-war, pro-Bush four years ago.

[WileEcoyote]

85. Ok Ok I believe it!

But how credible is the source?

As search of
James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret) really doesn't turn up much. Maybe if he got an interview with DU or the Huffington Post (whatever) the point could be made to a broader based audience.

And besides the prez pretty much is cooked meat now anyway. Not a lot of time to impeach him in his closing days.

You can disgrace him publicly and that's cool. However it doesn't get a whole heck of a lot done.

Pelosi may have this one right. There just isn't enough time on our hands to put the country through impeachment. What she should do instead is create "Payback" against ALL GOP Congressional players and a few of the Democrats who've helped the Bush Administration.

[Proud_Lefty]

91. Say what?

His closing days need to involve impeachment and criminal proceedings, to be shared with his whole cabinet, for the sake of the country and our relations with the rest of the world. Amazing how people don't think these high crimes should go unpunished. A right wing talking point that I can't listen to any longer.

[peacetalksforall]

97. Very early on after Dems won the House, I was against 'i' for the

same reasons Pelosi is giving. I changed my mind quite awhile back - I think they should start because the action this morning proves that they will fight like crazy and refuse every legal request. This means that history will record every obstruction.

I'm afraid they plan to pull a martial law and stay where they are. For that reason alone we need to start the impeachment proceedings. A knowledgeable group of lawyers can do a lot to save time and assist the House.

In the end the Senate has to vote and we can't trust Leiberman and some of the other Dems.

[LiberalFighter]

111. If they implement martial law then I will be willing to appropriate action

to take back our country.

[WileEcoyote]

102. It's really just a matter of timing

That and how an Impeachment process will play out in the 2008 election cycle.

It involves political risk that Pelosi isn't willing gamble with.

Ever put a thousand dollars on the Blackjack table deep into the six deck shoe with a running count of plus 20*? So you're dealt a pair of aces against a dealers "Four" upcard.

OK you're supposed to split those aces doubling your grand to two thousand.

Problem is, there's no guarantee you'll win. Probably the dealer is holding a ten underneath that stiff up card. She'll go bust and you'll get at least a 21 or so on one ace. The other not mattering as the dealer goes bust with a 24...

But you have to have the raw nerve to put the grand down on the table in the first place. If you're betting the rent money this isn't a good idea.

And there's no telling that maybe the dealer is sitting on the last "seven" down card in the deck. her chances of getting 21 being almost 75% at that point...

Pelosi is in the same situation on a political level. The odds are in her favor but she must act quickly and there is no guarantee. Playing it safe may be the best strategy if it appears she could lose big in '08.Doesn't want to risk the rent money so to speak.


*And don't tell a soul that i (sometimes) make my living counting cards!

[yardwork]

93. Welcome to DU Borrego Springs!

I've been there - what a gorgeous place. Also the hottest I have ever been in my life.

[WileEcoyote]

104. My son wants to go there next week..

So you know foolishness runs in the family. Hotter'n blazes.

[yardwork]

108. I was there about this time of year several years ago.

We went for a (short) walk in the desert. We came back quickly.

[LiberalFighter]

110. Here's an idea... Let's fast-track impeachment!! :)

[Chipster]

137. O WileEcoyote!

Pelosi is a politician. She has no right nor authority to suspend the Constitutional remedy for high crimes and misdemeanors. Bush and Company appear to have committed impeachable offenses, and it is the House's job to investigate, and if appropriate, impeach. There really is no choice; it's simply getting them to get off the dime. If they don't impeach, they are complicit - as are we, for allowing them to suspend the Constitutional remedy (as well as most of the actual Constitution).

Pelosi is wrong, flat out wrong. She is wrong from a Constitutional standpoint, and she is wrong from a political standpoint because impeachment will demonstrate to the world that the American system of government works, thereby restoring some integrity to the republic as a beacon of freedom and liberty.

Better late than never - then on to the Hague!

[badgerpup]

2. you have to scroll down and read the comments to see this.

Otherwise it's a story about how Crawford is no longer a boom town.


:kick:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. That is dynamite...

If it's true...

And I have no reason to doubt it...

Thank you for this important piece...

It needs to be shouted from the housetops, and on the front pages of every major newspaper tomorrow...

We are way overdue for impeachment.

[Canuckistanian]

4. Wow, from a comments section in the Houston Chronicle site

Is this James Atkinson for real? He says he's a Navy man, any idea of his rank?

Quick! Get this man on TeeVee!

[Tulum_Moon]

58. We may never get the chance to meet this guy.

He will disappear into thin air when word gets out about what he saw so long ago.:scared:

[Dinger]

61. Another Name. Just Google It:

Margie Schoedinger

[ima_sinnic]

63. kicking for margie

... her story haunts me

http://blatanttruth.org/bushcrimefamily.php#margie

[truedelphi]

80. Oh mi gawd - I bet only a handful of people know about this

Thank you for the link

[ima_sinnic]

83. when they want to, they can make people disappear--

and all traces of that disappearance

[givemebackmycountry]

5. BINGO!

Without his daddy - Bush would be washing cars or sleeping in a park.
Or worse.

He's a 25 watt light bulb, a half can of warm Coors light with a cigarette butt in it.
He's a turd circling a stained gas station toilet.
He's an idiot.

AND...

He's a freaking low life coward son of a bitch.

[WinkyDink]

25. Let us not forget "mass-murdering psychopath".

[hootinholler]

55. He's a 22 caliber mind in a 45 caliber world...

Thanks President Bartlett!

-Hoot

[Redneck Socialist]

117. I'd say he's more of a 25 ACP mind...

Expensive, weak, relatively useless and not very popular.

[Dinger]

62. This Should Get A DUzy!

I'm just sayin'.

[Binka]

126. Will You Marry Me?

"He's a 25 watt light bulb, a half can of warm Coors light with a cigarette butt in it.
He's a turd circling a stained gas station toilet."

"AND...

He's a freaking low life coward son of a bitch."



Poetry baby, pure poetry.

:loveya:

[lovuian]

6. I have know doubt

and he is totally mindcontrolled and crazy

[Swamp Rat]

7. He forgot "mass murderers" and "traitors."

;)

[Edweird]

8. Good man. Spread the word! Better late than never.

[yes2truth]

9. Your fact is wrong, but it might be unintentional

There is no Richmond Drive, but there is a Richmond Avenue in Houston, and that is where the Chateau Dijon apartments are, where he lived at that time.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. Maybe back then it was Richmond Drive.

And that is where all the clubs were.

[ConsAreLiars]

16. Chimpy seems to have been in Houston only occasionally during 1973.

It is unclear where he was, but he transferred to the Alabama National Guard in 1972, and there are several "Richmond Drives" in Alabama.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/08/bush_fell_short_on_duty_at_guard/

In May 1972, Bush was given permission to move to Alabama temporarily to work on a US Senate campaign, with the provision that he do equivalent training with a unit in Montgomery. But Bush's service records do not show him logging any service in Alabama until October of that year.

And even that service is in doubt. Since the Globe first reported Bush's spotty attendance record in May 2000, no one has come forward with any credible recollection of having witnessed Bush performing guard service in Alabama or after he returned to Houston in 1973. While Bush was in Alabama, he was removed from flight status for failing to take his annual flight physical in July 1972. On May 1, 1973, Bush's superior officers wrote that they could not complete his annual performance review because he had not been observed at the Houston base during the prior 12 months.

Although the records of Bush's service in 1973 are contradictory, some of them suggest that he did a flurry of drills in 1973 in Houston -- a weekend in April and then 38 days of training crammed into May, June, and July. But Lechliter, the retired colonel, concluded after reviewing National Guard regulations that Bush should not have received credit -- or pay -- for many of those days either. The regulations, Lechliter and others said, required that any scheduled drills that Bush missed be made up either within 15 days before or 30 days after the date of the drill.

That said, Atkinson should post a more detailed statement of the what, when and where of his claims.

[Bolo Boffin]

26. Bush only did some sporadic days in Alabama, early in 1973.

He did nothing in Houston, but that's where he was. He was doing some kind of community service. It wasn't until after that May 1973 report that someone lit a fire under young 2nd Lt. Bush's ass and he started doing Guard time out the wazoo.

http://boloboffin.blogspot.com/2004_07_04_boloboffin_archive.html#108943223162665302

[TheBaldyMan]

48. Bush was transferred to an administrative (paper only) unit

Usually this kind of unit was reserved for servicemen who had returned from Vietnam and were waiting to muster out, so they were kept on strength only on paper, they were given a lot of leeway as far as attendance was concerned, it allowed them to build some kind of life outside the forces. It helped smooth their transition back into civilian life.

Extraordinarily, Dubya was transferred to just such an administrative unit some time after he deserted - that is how he 'earned' his honorable discharge. He did not do Guard time out the wazoo, his service file did. Chimpy McFuckwit had already moseyed off into the sunset some considerable time before.

Any ex-service member who earned their discharge the usual way probably feels physically sick when they think about this.

[Bolo Boffin]

74. He was transferred after that summer of back to back service

I disagree that he didn't pull the service in the summer of 1973. But I think there should be some documentation of the kick in the tail he got after May of 1973 to inspire that burst of service. It has been purged.

[TheBaldyMan]

122. He walked and Poppy got him off the hook (again)

if you add up the number of days he was physially on a base after he was a no show at his medical and compare it with the time committment he actually had as a TANG member there is a marked discrepancy.

Believe it or not he was transferred to a paper only unit for his remaining time and was credited that way (remember the strident claims that Bush did his duty?). Probably the only example of a serviceman that had not served overseas receiving such treatment.

Go to Greg Palast's website, there are .pdf files of original documents as well as a very thorough investigation of George's "war service". Dubya checked the box that said he was not willing to serve overseas (Vietnam). There should really have been a box that said he was not willing to serve in the CONUS as well, he just wandered off and abandoned his post.

The whole sad story is a mockery of service. He couldn't even cut it in the champagne squadron he was miraculously assigned to. The reason for the sparse paper trail isn't because it has been purged it is because there was barely any service to document. The record that does survive is one that states he was a TANG member in name only, George was keeping a drawer in a DoD filing cabinet safe for democracy. He did pull an awful lot of paper time towards the end of his military career, it's just that Bush wasn't physically present.

Never mind AWOL, the guy is a deserter.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

70. Community service to have court records expunged...

of a 1972 arrest for cocaine possession. Isn't that how the story goes? Project P.U.L.L. in Houston:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2956067#2956098

[Bolo Boffin]

73. I believe that is correct!

Couldn't remember the details, thanks.

[Joanne98]

130. Yes! Project PULL.

[Pokey Anderson]

71. Richmond Avenue is indeed the name of the street in Houston.

It's a major east-west street. It's never been Richmond Drive, at least for the past 30 years.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. Here's to James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret)!!!

:toast:

A deserter, drunk and druggie....and murdering WARMONGER.

[quiet.american]

14. Hello! He shut down the Bushbot who posted right before him. A sharp salute to him! n/t

[Bozita]

11. A witness, ... a witness willing to talk.

Watch your back!

[jeff30997]

12. Bush's response to this accusation:

Liarliarpantsonfire!

[quiet.american]

15. A hoot! From one of the comments -- list of books for the Bush library - lol.

CK2795 wrote:

As for books in the Bush Library:

The Dummies Guide to Stealing the Presidency

Mommy Still Dresses Me

Maybe I Talk Good One Day

Men are from Mars, Bush is....just Stupid

Even My Wife Thinks I'm an Idiot

Why Won't My Parents Return My Calls?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4950647.html?plckCurrentPage=2

[Ghost in the Machine]

18. LOL! Here's some more..

wildbill wrote:
Top 10 books (and only 10 books) to be found in the Bush Library:
1. It's Not About My Trike
2. Blood and Money (The War and Iraq and the Halliburton Profiteers)
3. How I Met My Mother
4. Idle American
5. Funny Things I've Heard Wire Tapping
6. Search Warrants, Who Needs 'Em
7. Federal Sentencing Guidelines For The Privileged
8. How To Survive A Hurricane Without Even Trying
9. 12 Steps To Stupidity
10. Visualizing Weapons of Mass Destruction
7/8/2007 7:24:25 AM

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4950647.html?plckCurrentPage=1

[quiet.american]

21. Hilarious--reading the comments sections on these types of articles is becoming a fave pastime. n/t

[Phrogman]

35. Read this from a former freeper, its very good....

curlycowboy wrote:
I hate to say it but I did vote for him.. It does make me want to spit...It's like driving down the road and smelling road kill, that awful smell which makes you spit.. I'm truely sorry America for doing this to you. I will try harder in this next election to right my wrong.
Crawford made the same misstake, thinking they were going to bank in on Bush buying that ranch.(which he only bought trying to look more like a rancher than an oil man, I don't think he even owns cattle) Sorry to say but by Crawford embracing Bush it may kill that small town of less than 800. I read some stores now are having to close because the t-shirt and pins aren't selling anymore. I'm very thankful I didn't lose value on my car, I would have, had I put one of those ugly blue Bush, Chaney stickers on the bumper.
We all know the old saying of " fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME!!" well who do we vote for now. We can already see corporations funding the top contenders. Do we trust them to sway our minds again, NOT... Time is running out for us to choose, I pray we make the right choice this time. There's something about getting older, some of us learn from our misstakes... God Bless America

[trashcanistanista]

72. "Lose value on my car" for putting a bumpersticker

on it? He regrets his vote for that? All those poor people whose cars lost their value! .:nopity:

[Phrogman]

116. Well, he's still a fucking freeper, bless his pin-headed heart...

e0m

[losthills]

76. You forgot

"My Pet Goat."
I know for sure he read that one...

[goodgd_yall]

23. And one writer called Wyattrash

suggested Adventures of Dick and Jane, Run Pug Run, and Clifford the Red Dog.

[goodgd_yall]

24. The comments are hilarious. n/t

[OwnedByFerrets]

114. It would be funny if we werent talking about an

evil man who controls so much of our lives.

[grasswire]

17. have the comments been removed?

I don't see them.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

19. I just checked, and they are still there...

Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page......

That's where you'll find them!

Happy hunting!

:hi:

[tbyg52]

32. You don't see them for a while

especially on dialup. It looks like nothing is happening, but they come up eventually.

[orleans]

20. the article seems to be getting a lot of anti bushette remarks. hum...

could it be that the country doesn't like him?

[progressoid]

22. Ugh, enough with the drugs.

Said it before and I'll say it again...who cares?

Really. Besides a few of us on the left that are obsessed with the BFEE, this means nothing.

It's not going to get him impeached. It's not going to get us out of Iraq. Or help balance the budget. Or fix the environment. Or _______ (fill in the blank).

It's time to move on and tackle some real issues. This reminds me of RWers that obsess about Clinton's supposed sexcapades as Governor. Who cares. Lets move on. Lets rise above the muck.

[bunkerbuster1]

30. It's worth 1-2% of the knuckle-dragger support.

I agree that it's not a major issue at this point, but anything that helps erode this criminal's remaining base is worth pushing.

And as far as "rising above the muck" is concerned, I'm fine with our Presidential candidates remaining above it all. Doesn't mean we have to.

Catapult the propaganda!

[proud2BlibKansan]

46. It's important because it proves he is a damn liar

and a charlatan who has ridden on his daddy's coat tails all the way to the White House. Exposing him is vital to save this country and wake up the sheeple who voted for him.

[progressoid]

49. "because it proves he is a damn liar"

Unfortunately that's the same reasoning RWers' use about Clinton ("I did not have sex with that woman" proves he's a liar). In fact, I heard it this weekend from some rabid Repubs.

Perhaps we should find things a little less tawdry to make our point.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Tawdry?

Good heavens, this bastard lied to win an election which he STOLE, and lied to lead us into an illegal war. How can you call proving he is a fucking liar "tawdry"???

[progressoid]

64. Good heavens is right. That's not at all what I said.

I'll try again.

Coke use and blow jobs are tawdry. (And, frankly using them as arguments isn't much better than tawdry.)
I'm not saying proving he's liar is tawdry.
Or that his war or myriad of other presidential offenses is tawdry.

The arguments against him are huge. Resorting to scraping the bottom of the argument barrel to make a point is a bit pathetic. We should be better than that. It would be nice if we didn't drag ourselves down to their (freepers) level.

Bush is in my top ten Most Despicable Living Americans. But, of the reasons to despise him, his drug use 44 years ago ranks at the bottom 10.

[grace0418]

69. Well that's just it isn't it? Using logic (or proof of real crimes) doesn't work with RWers.

So if they want to make a big deal about Clinton lying over a private, personal mistake (one that was tawdry but not illegal), then it's the perfect thing to throw in their faces. Because, whether or not you think it should be, doing drugs is illegal. And Bush is just another lying-ass hypocrite.

Like the joke goes, can someone just give Bush a blowjob already? It's funny (and sad) because people don't seem to understand the magnitude of BushCo's crimes against humanity. Each one is a treasonous, impeachable offense. All of them together represent a real threat to every single person living on this planet. And yet somehow Clinton wanting to keep a private indiscretion private is far more worthy of impeachment? If RWers really want to play that game, then I say "FINE, then how about the fact that Bush is a coke-snorting liar?"

[progressoid]

86. "If RWers really want to play that game, then I say "FINE,"

Here's my issue. I don't want to play that game. The game is juvenile and inane. Why should we (the supposed enlightened ones) be reduced to their pubescent level of discourse?

Yes, Bush is a hypocrite. Yes, repubs are hypocrites. But don't we become hypocrites also after condemning their actions against Clinton, and then deciding that their "game" is OK and doing the same?

[grace0418]

89. I don't think that makes us hypocrites to fight fire with fire. The ONLY thing RWers had

against Clinton was that he lied about getting a blow job (well, the only legitimate thing anyway). It was wrong to lie and wrong to cheat on his wife, but ultimately it didn't cost anyone their lives or bring the planet to the brink of extinction. On the other hand, we have a long and horrible list of crimes committed by BushCo. Crimes that we know are destroying all of us. But since the RWers can't seem to wrap their pea brains around those crimes, then maybe we need to point out crimes they do seem to understand.

We would be hypocrites if Clinton had also started illegal wars, raped our Constitution and our treasury, etc. etc. in ADDITION to lying about a blow job.

[progressoid]

107. I'd use a different analogy than fighting fire with fire.

More like flinging poo. They flung it, so we'll fling too. Problem is, I feel like shit afterwords.

I'd rather we attack him for his long and horrible list of pRresidential crimes rather than the coke thing. It just makes us sound like a bunch of whiners.

[grace0418]

109. Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

You can stay above the fray. I'm willing to get down and dirty at this point. Nothing else seems to be working. We've tried and tried and tried to expose the myriad crimes of this misadministration.

[yardwork]

95. Tawdry is as tawdry does. Doing coke is tawdry. So is having an affair with an intern.

I'm tired of hearing the excuse that "Clinton did it, too." Did what? Lied? Behaved in a tawdry manner? Killed hundreds of thousands just to make a profit?

When one of my kids says "he did it too" I'm not impressed. Remind your Republican buddies that theirs is supposed to the party of personal responsibility.

[DemBones DemBones]

138. What Clinton said was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss

Lewinsky."

I was sure as soon as he said it that he meant they had not had intercourse but had probably done everything except have intercourse.

I think if you ask anyone who went to high school and college in the Sixties, at least in the South, what "sexual relations" means, the answer will be "sexual intercourse." So Clinton was telling the truth, he just didn't volunteer information on what he had done with Miss Lewinsky.

I don't know why reporters, or Hillary, didn't catch on to what he meant. It was clear to me.

[WinkyDink]

141. Please quote exactly: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." Look up

"sexual relations". You'll find that President Clinton was equivocating, but not lying.

[Tsiyu]

56. I care when this administration claims that

"Drugs ruin people's lives.'

The Drug War they fund and push, the Prison Nation they want for everyone but Rich repukes is ruining people's lives = while * and all his enablers are just as guilty of using substance but get to do as they please.

ALL OVER THIS NATION are young people who are facing a loss of student aid, voting rights and future job potential because of our horrendous drug laws.

yet this guy gets to be President after being a freaking cokehead?

Hell, yes, I CARE.

[progressoid]

57. The previous administration said that too.

And does anyone here believe that Bill Clinton "didn't inhale"?

[shimmergal]

59. Yes!

The two times I tried marijuana I couldn't inhale--hated the fumes. And I was a tobacco smoker at that time too.

So I find Clinton's statement wholly believable. He's gotten a bum rap on this.

[Tsiyu]

92. Th previous Administration didn't push through a Patriot Act

which today basically means you have NO rights against unlawful search and siezure or eavesdropping on your conversations and e-mails.

The previous administration did not end the war on Drugs, but they didn't use it to marginalize human beings the way this administration has done.

[Richard Steele]

65. Damn right! nm

[aquart]

27. Not buying his religious conversion, huh?

Oh, well.

[Hippo_Tron]

28. Kerry's team probably should've gone digging for this stuff in '04

Or more precisely the DNC should've done it for them, because it's generally the Party national committee's job to do the dirty work so the candidate can stay above it.

[ikojo]

33. John Kerry is a fellow Bonesman...it mattered little

which of the Bonesmen won.

Kerry revealed his true colors when he allowed the swiftboaters to have the upper media hand, while he surfed off the coast of Nantucket.

IMHO, if it mattered whether Clinton smoked a "j" in the 1960s, then why didn't the Democrats make a big deal out of Bush's drug use? Because they lack SPINES! In 2000, Gore was too busy saying "I agree" during the "debates" to really challenge Bush.

[truth2power]

38. Bingo!! n/t

[Virginia Dare]

45. Bushco would have dragged somebody out..

who had seen Kerry simultaneously snorting coke and smoking a joint while shooting up heroin.

[unhappycamper]

29. I wonder where these people come from?

caroldholleman wrote:

bush may be bad. but i would never vote democrat. they have the morals of an alley cat(clinton,carter,nixon) everybody knows that clinton didnt run the white house his b*tch wife did. and i give Bush credit for not lying to us to our faces that he did not have sexual relations with that woman. and he smoked (marijuana) but didnt inhale. give me a break! he insulted us all with that lie. and clinton dodged the draft too by running to canada to hide out. at least Bush enlisted. im not happy with everything that Bush is doing i think the war should have been long over, but i do give him an A for effort. i wonder how any one of you would do if you had to run the country??

:wtf:

[Hubert Flottz]

31. ClodBots...

Wouldn't know the truth if they passed it in the street.

[truth2power]

41. Proof positive, as if it was needed..

that these people are operating out of the primitive brain.

These are the same ones who would follow another Jim Jones.....oh, wait..they're already doing that. Tush Limpballs is playing them like a cheap violin every day of their lives.



edit> Typo - Tush instead of Rush. Decided to leave it. Calling Dr. Freud.... Bwahaha!

[yardwork]

121. Nixon?

All this time I thought Nixon was a Republican. I guess Faux News set this guy straight.

[TheBaldyMan]

140. "you can fool some of the people all of the time..." etc.

and that poor unfortunate seems to be in that number. Dumber than a sack full of rocks.

[babylonsister]

34. I wish this guy had spoken up a lot sooner. nt

[Name removed]

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[SpiralHawk]

37. "It was good shit, too." - Commander AWOL

"Better shit than republicon male prostitute Jeff Gannon ever delivered."

- Commander AWOL

[wicket]

39. Oh my god....

K & R

[waiting for hope]

40. I just hope that everyone that voted

him are happy.....hopefully one day they will understand what they wrought.

[tk2kewl]

43. where were you in 2000 and 2004

:shrug: :cry:

[Virginia Dare]

44. No doubt...

unfortunately, this is about 7 years too late.

[The Backlash Cometh]

47. I love you James Atkinson!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

51. 2 more posts by Mr Atkinson:

Two more posts by James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret):

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jeatkinson wrote:
caroldholleman:

You need to check your facts. Nixon was a Republican.

James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret)
7/8/2007 10:38:39 PM
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jeatkinson wrote:
For those who keep calling everyone who does see George Bush and his merry band of criminals as great men and women, take a look at history.

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Our country is founded on those who had the courage to stand up and voice unpopular opinions when those in power abused that power, and those who are willing to do so are the patriots.

I spent 20+ years of my life serving in the military, and after 14 years of being retired, I am now serving my country in the Global War on Terror in Germany.

What are you people who follow the Bush regime blindly doing besides bashing those of us who do not believe in their war mongering?

Plus, since when does being a member of a particular political party make it ok to vote for and support a druggie deserter?

A single DUI ends a military career and causes a person to lose their security clearance, but it is ok to put a dui, druggie, deserter in charge of the country and give them access to our most sensitive information?

I do not know about those of you in this forum, but there is something wrong when people are willing to overlook criminal pasts just because a person or group of people know how to say the right sounding things to the right religious groups.

James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret)

7/8/2007 11:37:14 PM
Recommend (10) Report abuse END QUOTE

[NewJeffCT]

52. Don't forget the recent quote, "Not everything we've done has been illegal"

attributed to a senior WH official.

[nolabels]

54. Kind of forgot that little one, thanks

I am not sure if one should laugh or cry but LOL at you anyway :-)

[happygoluckytoyou]

53. TONY SNOW HERE----->

congrats to the one comment who still loves bush... carolsomething... bush has decided to call you "The Carol Crack" because your name is Carol, and the rest is obvious. i am tired of hearing the whining democrats cry about bush wasn't in the war, the dickster avoided service--- he's servicing you now isn't he... betcha never got serviced like this before... serviced like a $40 john.
could you get serviced like this in iraq? no! not by some make-believe 72 virgins. we are fighting them over there because bush and cheney are over here... and that is why the TERRORISTS LOSE.

and remember, a vote for bush is a future vote for jeb

this is tony "the snowjob" reporting to you from the s-hitehouse

[Dinger]

60. Well, Let's Seem Some Action - I'm Ready!!! K & R

[cgrindley]

66. I disagree, it's the one good thing Bush did

NOT serving the country during the Vietnam war is a badge of honor, and it doesn't matter if you went to jail, escaped to Canada, got an education deferrment, hid in the National Guard... anything to avoid going to Vietnam was the right thing to do. I don't give a shit if it was Bush or my father-in-law, avoiding Vietnam was the right thing to do.

[losthills]

78. Bush gets no badge of honor

for avoiding service in Vietnam because he still promotes war and sends others to die. Because he is a phony militarist who wears phony uniforms and wraps himself in the mantle of "Comander In Chief."

With Bush and Cheney, it's not their draft evasion that's wrong-- it's their hypocrisy. In light of their subsequent actions, I would say it's a black mark on both their careers. I don't see any of their children in uniform either...

[cgrindley]

88. I agree with that, it's the hypocrisy

that bugs me, too. Hell, I'd be proud of being a draft dodger and I sure as shit wouldn't vote to send anyone to war.

[baldguy]

67. Why didn't this shit come out before the 2000 campain?

It did. The corporate media buried it.



http://www.albionmonitor.com/0106a/bushforward.html

[Catherine Vincent]

68. Yep.

They ignored it.

[JDPriestly]

75. The link does not work on 07/09/07

I searched in the archives file for Atkinson and James E. Atkinson and nothing turned up.

[Catherine Vincent]

77. I just clicked the link.

It worked for me. Here's some of the article:

July 8, 2007, 11:39AM
As Bush goes, so goes Crawford
Everyone agrees 2004 was town's high-water mark for tourism trade

By THOMAS KOROSEC
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle

Tourism slump in Crawford CRAWFORD — From a wooden bench in front of a shop selling mementos of "The Western White House," tourist Chuck Yorde wondered aloud why he seemed to be the only visitor in town. "If his poll numbers were up there above 50-60 percent, this place would probably be a little more jumping," said Yorde, surveying the empty parking spots up and down Lone Star Parkway. The Youngstown, Ohio, resident was almost apologetic about his own presence in the town that hosts President George W. Bush's 1,600-acre ranch. He said he was visiting his sister in nearby Gatesville who's "a big Bush fan. ... She dragged me over here."

Shuttered storefronts and eroding retail sales figures show tourism and the Bush memorabilia business are slumping in this once-sleepy farm-and-ranch town of 732 residents. A for-sale sign is the only thing in the smudged window of the turn-of-the-century, two-story brick building that once housed the Crawford Country Style store. "The numbers just weren't working," said Norma Nelson Crow, who closed the shop at the beginning of the year.

Traffic and sales of shirts, caps, refrigerator magnets and other presidential curios began slowing in 2005, she said. By the summer of 2006, Crow said, her hopes for a turnaround in the business faded. "It was my baby and I loved that little store, but I had to face the facts," she said. Retail sales figures kept by the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts document the slide. In 2004, gross retail sales in Crawford totaled $2.6 million. They fell to $2 million in 2006, down by more than 20 percent. Nobody is saying things have improved at all this year. "It's pretty slow, slower than last summer," Jamie Burgess, manager of the Red Bull gift shop, said last week.

Only a handful of customers came in during the day to browse her collection of Bush curios and homespun decorative items sold on consignment. Bill Johnson, owner of the Yellow Rose, Crawford's largest gift shop, said he has been stocking more Texana and Americana items in response to the drop-off in sales of Bush merchandise. "We're changing our mix," Johnson said. "As a business we have to do what we have to do to be successful."

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You have to scroll to the bottom for the comments. It's several pages of comments. Mostly anti-Bush.

[JDPriestly]

123. Thanks.

[JDPriestly]

124. I'm on Mozilla. I see that comments exist, but I can't get to them.

Thanks.

[DemReadingDU]

99. Link does not work in IE, but does work in AOL for me

:eyes:

[npincus]

79. *** He posted again:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4950647.html?plckCurrentPage=8

For those who keep calling everyone who does see George Bush and his merry band of criminals as great men and women, take a look at history.

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Our country is founded on those who had the courage to stand up and voice unpopular opinions when those in power abused that power, and those who are willing to do so are the patriots.

I spent 20+ years of my life serving in the military, and after 14 years of being retired, I am now serving my country in the Global War on Terror in Germany.

What are you people who follow the Bush regime blindly doing besides bashing those of us who do not believe in their war mongering?

Plus, since when does being a member of a particular political party make it ok to vote for and support a druggie deserter?

A single DUI ends a military career and causes a person to lose their security clearance, but it is ok to put a dui, druggie, deserter in charge of the country and give them access to our most sensitive information?

I do not know about those of you in this forum, but there is something wrong when people are willing to overlook criminal pasts just because a person or group of people know how to say the right sounding things to the right religious groups.

James E. Atkinson, US Navy (ret)

7/8/2007 11:37:14 PM

[SoCalDem]

81. Has this guy been in a coma since 1999?

How come he's only speaking up NOW:eyes:

thanks for not much, dude..:eyes:

[Subdivisions]

82. I was curious and began to research Mr. Atkinson and I found

a couple of other posts by him. This was late last night and I went to bed without going much further. Haven't gotten back to it today but for what it's worth:

http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2006/06/we_explain_you_.html">LA Times

Posted by: James E. Atkinson, US Navy - retired | June 27, 2006 at 10:37 PM

While I wish I could write something profound, the only image that comes to mind is a Porky Pig cartoon. In the cartoon Injun Joe held the entire United States of America hostage, he a lone man had the whole nation quaking with fear. At this time in our history we have become that nation, quaking with fear over a few thousand fanatics.
We a nation of almost three hundred million people are more than willing to surrender those liberties for which millions of our fellow americans have fought and died. Why because Injun Joe, excuse me Al queda might be lurking to attack. So what they do not have the power to conquer our nation, but we do have the power to surrender our freedoms. The power of a free press is far more valuable to our survival than some program government program of questionable effectiveness.

http://www.houstondemocrats.com/archives/2005/11/to_stop_the_war.html">Houston Democrats

Posted by: drs James E. Atkinson, US Navy - retired at November 23, 2005 08:38 AM

Jennifer:

I can certainly understand your point of view and how important it is to pay lip service to beliefs which do not require you to do more than typing "you don't know me" type comments with no real substance to back them on a keyboard while striving to appear mature and strong in your pupport of the well-dressed deserter from the Texas National Guard who got an honorable discharge because of his father and his 5-deferrment fellow drunk. It is so nice to see such people held up as real American patriots while they attack decorated military people who have actually done more than hide from their obligations.

As a 5th generation Texan, I have to say that it is so very nice to see real open-mindedness in action among our Red citizens.

By-the-Way, are Republicans aware that Red is the color of Communism, and 50 years of "Better Dead than Red" comments from the GOP?

Just curious.

John:

Nice piece about the Draft. I did my 22 years, and I agree; draft them all without deferrment.

I haven't nailed-down yet exactly what his capacity in the Navy was.

[DemReadingDU]

101. deleted, oops

[ChiciB1]

87. What Good Does This Do NOW??? The Damage Is Done & We

are paying the price because so many others kept their mouths shut!! I tried telling everyone I knew BEFORE 2000 about Smuck Head, and most of my friends agreed he would be TERRIBLE is he won the election! Which HE DID NOT!!

The only GOOD thing about him about him stealing the election in 2000 is that LIE-BER-MAN isn't the Vice-President today! But back then LIE-BER-MAN was different from now, or so it seemed. What happened to him is something I don't understand. I recall him differently anyway.

But Smuck Head has ALWAYS been SMUCK HEAD! He has done dirty work in EVERY SINGLE campaign he's been associated with. Ann Richards knew it and she was a pretty good ole GAL! Molly Ivins was another one in and around the area too! Austin, TX, but Austin at least has enough sense and doesn't seem to have been a big "fanny" of Smuck Head!

I lived in Texas for quite some time and graduated from school there, very very close to Crawford! And BTW, Crawford didn't exactly endorse Smuck Head when he ran for election. They supported the Democrats!

Gatesville wasn't very big when I lived there, but they do have that PRISON there and many people work there. Without it, Gatesville would be totally DEAD! That was the same thing for Killeen, TX... it would have been dead and gone had it not been for Ft. Hood, TX! Both of my kids were born in Killeen, but since we moved here when they were very young, they won't admit it! I still have friends who live there, and many who still don't "get it" about Smuck Head! I think it's something in the water! I go back for class reunions but DO NOT talk politics with some of them!

I will say this, SOME have changed their minds simply saying that he's not the Christian I thought he was! That's not saying much because when you have your head in the sand and so far up someone's ass, it's really hard to see clearly! I'm so glad I don't live there anymore! Not that living in Florida is much better, but there is MORE diversity anyway!

However, I find it a little strange that people have waited so long to tell the "real truth!" All anyone had to do was listen to Greg Palast way back in 1999 or before... now it's just TOO DAMN LATE!!

[DemReadingDU]

100. deleted oops

[wildbilln864]

90. I recommended this thread and had trouble and....

my rec isn't showing! It's still at 95 and I should have been 96. :shrug:


ok, It shows up now I guess that's mine. Anyways, great post!
:hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

94. Thanks. Now it's at 98!

:hi:

[wildbilln864]

96. I sure hope evryone is....

reading and distributing this info! :grr:

[Babsbrain]

98. I would trust this guy

Check out his credentials:
http://www.jamesearlatkinson.com/per_fam.html

[Catherine Vincent]

112. Thanks!

He seems legit for sure.

[wildbilln864]

103. kick! eom

[krj44]

105. this is agreat ass post,

love it.anything on his abortion with robin bowman.

[DemReadingDU]

106. so that is her name

I had heard that rumor of an abortion years ago.

[krj44]

125. her name is changed,she`s now

married to a retired fbi agent,lives in al.wonder if he`s assigned to keep her under raps.(robin garner)

[SammyWinstonJack]

113. What year was it that pResident Cokehead was busted for cocaine?

It was the 70's.

[Rex]

115. Had a friend over today, goes back to Iraq soon.

Came home to see the wife and kids. They all came down and ate with us, he spouted a few lines of RW gibberish at the dinner table (I wish we could have avoided the topic, but pretty much impossible to do) and I asked if he got that from AFR, of course he did.

After about five minutes, we were talking a Vietnam type of defeat in Iraq. He knows it, I know it, my parents, his wife and my grandmother know it. We all sat around the table eating and trying not to hit on any sore wounds - I'm not gonna break his balls like that, not his fault.

One thing he did say that sounded real and like him; every bad thing you hear about or see on TV or from whatever news source, is true. All of it. All the bad is as bad as you can imagine and even worse.

He is sitting at 15 months, one extension and maybe 3 more months added on. I hope he comes back in Jan or Feb - never know if they are going to make it 18 months. It is getting desperate, I could hear it in his voice.

Bring them home? How are we going to do that? They've been over there for years now, can someone even address the logistics in the task to bring them all home? Or is he going right back next fall?

Can't he just get a chance to know his kids?

[TheBaldyMan]

139. If the Dems hadn't caved over funding Chimpy would have had to bring them home

instead Congress extended funding to 2009.

:shrug:

hope your friend comes home safe.

[everydayis911]

118. This wouldn't had mattered

Even in 2000 I think the media would have ignored it like the abortion issue. Just the plain fact that Bush is dumb was ignored. And still is. My first clue was "subliminable" and "misunderestimated". And I am not a reader and not too smart myself and even I figured it out. Little did I know that my college grad brother voted for the idiot. I was shocked. He still defends this administration and doesn't think that martial law would be a bad thing. I feel real bad for his kids 7 year old and 10 year old. They get to watch O'Really everyday. Wouldn't that be considered child abuse? I think so.

[David Zephyr]

119. Richmond Drive would be Montrose where Georgie & James Bath lived together.

James Bath and Geoge W. Bush had an aparment on Westheimer in Montrose where Richmond Drive runs through during this same time period.

[bluerum]

120. Oopsie. Cat's out of the bag now! eom

[Kurovski]

127. K&R. (nt)

[Joanne98]

128. My son is a Gulf War 1 veteran, who is in a Texas prison for drugs!

EIGHT FUCKING YEARS for possession of a SMALL AMOUNT of cocaine. All I have to say to you people playing this game is, I'M OUT TO GET YOU! We got 2.5 million people in jail and 80% of them are non-violent drug offenders. The AMA declared addiction a medical disease YEARS ago. But this lying ,thieving Mafia member can get away with whatever he wants. All he has to do is talk about the "moral values" he doesn't have and CHA CHING! It makes me sick!

[micraphone]

129. Margie - Investigate THIS

Will the repigs insist on spending $100 million on Margie?
http://blatanttruth.org/bushcrimefamily.php#margie

They DEMANDED it for Bill and a stained dress.

Hello, CNN, Fox - Nancy - anyone home?

[BrainGlutton]

131. Aaah, who WASN'T doing lines off bars in 1973? ;)

[Babsbrain]

132. Gore

[TexasProgresive]

133. I think this is your man-

http://www.jamesearlatkinson.com/

this guy is from Houston living in Suttgart and is retired navy.

[msedita]

134. This has to be a goof

Nobody with that much education could create a website that bad.

[dragonlady]

135. This site now returns Not Found

I googled and got another address for him, same as this one but ending in .info. That also was 404 Not Found. Tried the "cached" link, and something comes up for about one second and then flips to 404 Not Found. :shrug:

[Wapsie B]

136. Excellent post!