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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:19 AM
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"Right or wrong, we need to support our president", yeah, right.
Two callers in a row on cspan said this, in regard to today's query about what the hell to do in Iraq, and of course they were republicans, both admitted bush is wrong, and both said that we should support him never the less, because, because, he is our president.

Har dee fucking har har. What the fuck are these people on?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:21 AM
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1. Exactly like they supported Clinton I presume. n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:50 PM
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21. Now that's a damn good comeback.
:applause:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:52 PM
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23. Exactly what I would have said...
...you beat me to it!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:26 AM
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2. Why do people watch these C-SPAN call-in shows?
I'm as big a political news junkie as anyone, but I usually keep it on MSNBC. From what I have read on this board (and in this thread), many or most C-SPAN callers seem to be dead-end Bushbots spewing pseudo-Rushbo talking points.

Why waste your time listening to these people?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:27 AM
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3. I'll waste my time any way I please thank you very much.
As if MSNBC is any better.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:30 AM
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6. We "waste" our time listening to them to know the enemy.
And if anyone has been awake since 2000, they know the enemy. We need to stay sharpened to who they are: prevents sloth.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:36 AM
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10. Is it possible that we still don't "know the enemy"?
They all say the same thing all the time. To listen to amateur pundits clumsily try to repeat what they heard real pundits say yesterday on Fox Noise does strike me as a waste of time, sorry. Do you expect to hear something new or worthwhile from one of these bozos?

I'll stay with "right-wing" MSNBC, thanks.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:07 PM
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25. We hear from lefties also.
And I like hearing from both sides. Even though one side is more deranged than the other. Participation is why we watch cspan. I love the open phones.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:31 AM
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7. It's not only crazy right-wingers calling in.
And it's very interesting to witness the sea change in the attitude of the callers from, say, four years ago. I don't watch cable news because I think it's skewed to the right, but I do watch C-Span's Washington Journal. I like to hear what people's opinions are across the country, whether or not they have access to the internet.
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:34 AM
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9. I watch so that I can watch
to see if I pass these fools on the street
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:27 AM
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4. These are the same people who say....
"My country, right or wrong". HUH?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:28 AM
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5. Purebred Kool-Aid Drinkers. They Are Beyond Hope (nt)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:31 AM
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8. They seem to have mistaken the President for a King
These authoritarian submissives are so pathetic. What could be more unAmerican?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:05 PM
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22. Just wait until he makes it official.
These are the people we will really have to fear in those days.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:39 AM
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11. It's not patriotic to blindly follow a leader who lied us into war! It's
the opposite of patriotic!
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:41 AM
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12. i think people are talking out of there Ass
how can you support someone when they care about making money
from the war.Bush is making a fortune from Iraq oil.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:48 AM
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13. support what? that POS
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 06:51 AM by alyce douglas
who has clearly shown he has disdain towards the American people and mankind for that matter. Support this BS from this mental case of man??? he needs a quick kick in a$$ out!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:03 AM
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14. I wonder if they felt that way in 1998-1999?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:17 AM
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15. Quotes
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149
May 7, 1918

"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we require him to obey it.""Obedience to the law is demanded as a right; not asked as a favor."
Third Annual Message to Congress, December 7, 1903

How about this quote applied to Bush?

"A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards. More than that no man is entitled, and less than that no man shall have."
Speech to veterans, Springfield, IL, July 4, 1903

Bush hasn't shed his blood for this country. Definitely should never had been given a square deal by the American people.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:22 AM
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16. Why should ANYONE support Bush if he's wrong.
I mean for chrissakes.. there is no "right or.." to this f-up of a pretzeldunce
He's been wrong on EVERYTHING.
Wrong Wrong Wrong !

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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:45 AM
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17. If lovin' bush is wrong, they don't wanna be right.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:45 PM
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20. That's so philosoraptor!
:toast:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:46 AM
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18. The people in power will stick with this principle as long
as their guy is in power.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:48 AM
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19. I wonder how people come to think that terrible wrongs are OK for a
President? It is beyond my comprehension.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:05 PM
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24. And I'll bet those same two didn't support President Clinton.
Hypocrites!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:07 PM
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26. LOL! They still say that? Genius.
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