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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:49 AM
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Just curious about the wounded soldiers in Iraq...
Due to modern medicine and the advancements made since Viet Nam, how many, roughly, would the number of dead be if we were still working with 1960-70 medical technology?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:54 AM
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1. IIRC, in Vietnam the ration of dead to wounded was something like
1:2.75. Today it's something like 1:6. And it would be far worse than VN, because the body armor today means that there are proportionately more head wounds than before, which in those days would have been fatal. So with modern armor, but 70's medical/evacuation capabilities, I'd bet it would be more like 1:2. We'd have 20,000+ dead at this point.

But I don't really know, so actually I'm just talking out my ass. Or, putting it nicely, speculating.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:02 AM
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3. Well, just using your ratios: we'd have 6,720 killed thus far
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 11:03 AM by Buzz Clik
With 3600 dead in Iraq and a ratio of 6:1, that would give us 21,600, or a total of 25,200 wounded plus killed.

With the Vietnam ratio of 1:2.75, we'd have 6,720 killed. That, of course, doesn't account for the other differences you mentioned.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:58 AM
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2. Many wounded trrops survive due to advanced body armor and gear
but they have devastating injuries (missing limbs, multiple missing limbs, brain injuries, spinal injures and blindness).

In Vietnam, many of the same injures would hae resulted in death.
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:04 AM
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4. Probably different priorities in triage
Decisions during triage is probably different now than it was during VN. Fewer "hopeless" cases...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:06 AM
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5. I suspect the major difference...
is because troops in Iraq get to hospital much faster than troops in Vietnam. They're out on the roads in convoys instead of several day marches out in the jungle.
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