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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:01 PM
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Clarence Thomas says that he ...
is against intergration. Isn't his spouse caucasian?
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AandP Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:04 PM
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1. What race
his wife is, is not the issue....
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:07 PM
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2. His wife is an issue...
How can he say he is against intergration when he is married to a white woman. His marriage is intergrated.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:12 PM
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5. Under the circumstances, you are right. Of course she is an issue. NT
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:16 PM
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6. yes she is
because there were anti-mixed marriage laws on the books in Virginia and other states during my lifetime. Integration meant more than being able to go to your neighborhood school no matter what color you were.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:21 PM
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17. That's true.
He's completely fucking nuts regardless of who he's married to.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:08 PM
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3. Yes, but you have to keep in mind that he's an idiot n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:08 PM
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4. Thomas - another republicon chickenhawk, lacking in honesty and honor
Assuming the position for The Man.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:16 PM
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7. Who knew Thomas could speak?
I've sat in the Supreme Court Chamber during session, and half the time you'd almost think the man is asleep. He sits way back in his chair, slumped over, almost as if he were sleeping.

The man is an absolute disgrace and should not be on the Supreme Court. Anita Hill had it right.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:36 PM
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11. He is as their puppet..
he waits for the bush's and the neocons to tell him how to vote.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:41 PM
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20. It's a miracle!
Pu-rayze Jeeezuss!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:20 PM
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8. When did he say he was against intergration? n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:22 PM
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9. Clarence Thomas said he was against integration????
I can't believe that even he would be quite that idiotic!?
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:34 PM
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10. I heard a discussion about it..
on a talk radio show...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:42 PM
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12. I don't think that's true.
He's married to a white woman.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:45 PM
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14. I heard them discussing it on
the al sharpton show
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:42 PM
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13. He's against quotas and affirmative action
I doubt that he's against intergration.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:51 PM
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15. Wonder if he is against photo copying machines?????
And yard sticks.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:19 PM
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16. A few definitions.
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 03:21 PM by igil
"Segregated" and "integrated", as past participles, have no agent expressed. It can be the people themselves, or government.

"Segregation" in education involved separating students by race. A member of the 'wrong' race wasn't allowed at a segregated school. The implied agent is "government", not "by the people". If people, for whatever reasons, wind up segregating themselves, or having banks/house-sellers/etc. segregate them, the agent is not "government".

"Integration" was to force governments to let black and white kids go to the school they are closest to, not having different school districts for black kids and white kids. "Integration" was accomplished by the government, and was the opposite of "segregation"--"integration" and "desegregation" in this case are just about synonyms.

At this point, Thomas would say, "Well and fine." It's precisely what he argued for; not having read Brown vs. BoE, I don't know if that's what the judge had in mind or not. It's certainly not what SCOTUS had in mind a few years later.

Now, school "integration" can be more: It can mean having students moved *out* of their school districts on the basis of race. When it's making blacks move to avoid whites, it's usually judged to be bad. When it's making blacks move to be with whites, it's usually judged to be good. But that's not Thomas' viewpoint.

Notice that saying Thomas is "against integration" is probably misleading. He's firmly for integration (def. 1) and firmly against integration (def. 2).
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:22 PM
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18. baloney n/t
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:39 PM
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19. link? so that we may understand the context

:shrug:
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:46 PM
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21. Like I said in an earlier post...
I heard it on Al Sharpton's "keeping it real" ,.but I really don't care if he said it or not he is a hypocritical asshole no matter what.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:46 PM
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22. The specifics of his issue
Are that he is against forced integration. That is he sides with the idea of letting society take whatever course it will.

This position of course fails to take into account the fact that society has taken many nasty paths throughout history and fails to recognize one of the purposes of this nation is to form a more perfect union. Not to just let whatever happens happen.
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