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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:10 PM
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'DC Madam' Phone Records posted (22-Jan to 22-Aug 2006)
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 04:35 PM by rec_report
Breaking: 'DC Madam' Phone Records --By Lori Price, Citizens For Legitimate Government, 16:36 EDT 09 Jul 2007 Note: The page is under construction!! (Phone records from 22 January 2006 - 22 August 2006 have been posted.)

Notes, caveats: This page is under construction! I am creating .jpgs starting with the most recent dates. Click back to this page as records are added. The phone numbers of the Sprint client ('Originating Number'), as well as family members' numbers of the Sprint Client, have been redacted on these documents. See CLG's disclaimer on webpage regarding privacy issues of the owners of the telephone numbers of this list.

Note: Click on the little box that pops up to expand image to regular size.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:13 PM
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1. Kicked and recommended. Heartily.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:15 PM
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2. Allowez-moi to happily be #5
Yay! :party:
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:39 PM
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14. Thank you so much! I am waiting for a little popcorn guy, though!
:)--Polar Bear
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:15 PM
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3. not much of them there yet
only 12 calls from one week. most for portions of a minute, can you really hire a hooker in 20 seconds?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:19 PM
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4. Sorry, I thought you wrote "hire a hooker FOR 20 seconds".
:rofl:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:21 PM
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5. well, I ain't paying for more than I need!
sheesh, you think I'm a millionaire or sumthin'?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:22 PM
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6. Probably good forbragging rights if a Repub
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:22 PM
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7. Here's the good part of that first jpg.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:25 PM
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8. So which is Cheney's private line?
I'm not quite ready to just start dialing. :evilgrin:
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:27 PM
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9. A LONG heartfelt call to 202-679-8859 the night of the 23rd, then
a four minute follow up in the morning. . . . Hmmm.

She "slept on it"?

And there are no calls at all the last week of last July? Out of town?

Note, the last number called before her "silence" was old 202-679-8859. And never another call to that number again. Hmmm.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:39 PM
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you can get some info on that phone number
do a google on "reverse phone directory" and type the number in. it's a cell phone number based in Hagerstown MD. I think more details are available.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:47 PM
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40. Names, etc. ARE available but it looks like you have to pay...
$14.95 per name, on most sites.

If I had more money I'd pay for all the numbers on the list.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:11 AM
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97. She must have a relative in my neighborhood.
Tarpon Springs is listed to a Palfrey.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:28 PM
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10. interesting progression on items 1,2.4
Looks like the first call was the initial consultation. The second call would have been to schedule a 'date'. The third call would have been to confirm.

I think it'd be kinda fun to go through the records. :evilgrin:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:31 PM
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11. wonder what they talked about?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:36 PM
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12. Reverse telephone search on that 33 minute call
Phone Report for (202) 679-8859


NAME: AVAILABLE
CITY/STATE: HAGERSTOWN / MD

ADDRESS: AVAILABLE
TYPE: WIRELESS
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:50 PM
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42. There's another number registered to Hagerstown, MD...
if you look.

I wonder if it's the same person.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:39 PM
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Walnut Creek, Cali, is ringing a bell somewhere.
I know it was heavily GOP until quite recently and that a lot of heavy hitters for the scum ruining this country are there.

Well, along with a lot of horny guys with more money than brains who are trying to set up "business meetings" with the best money can buy.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:23 AM
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91. Bigtime Software Development in Walnut Creek
Probably just some rich CEO.
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BeyondThePale Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:05 PM
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17. Orlando?!? You mean Mickey called this service?
What about the children?
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:11 PM
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20. Well, the Walnut Creek number wasn't hard to find. Not too interesting though
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:14 PM
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32. That first number belongs to Condaleeza and her High Heel Boots
What? Did you think they were going to be all guys?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:38 PM
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37. I see Central Florida is generously represented.
Though that might be because the Madam when to school here.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:44 PM
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49. oh dear got...
one of those is madame mother's number... i know that already. the Germany number is to her real estate agent. the rest are likely a mixture of private citizens, family, and a call girl (1 by my count). this is not right... you should remove this. this violates the agreement that CGL made (as we all made who got the list) about protecting private citizens.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:39 PM
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13. Caveat: sex scandals rarely discriminate by political party.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:17 PM
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25. We really don't care
In fact, it might be "illuminating" to know exactly which Dems could be blackmailed by this info.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant, etc, etc.....
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:40 PM
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15. K&R & Bookmarked
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:55 PM
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16. Numbers and no names?
:shrug:
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:15 PM
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24. Palfrey said all along this was how it was done. and ABC won't give her their research or names they
got.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:06 PM
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18. Numbers don't help at all.
I want to see names.
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:08 PM
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19. We're working on it; I wanted to post something. n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:21 PM
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28. Spread this far and wide and the names will come in eventually
TPM Muckraker has a FABULOUS research staff.

I'd suggest that the answers could be found there.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:34 PM
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21.  A note from a poster and CLG's response will release names of public fig's
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 05:34 PM by caligirl
3 I emailed the blogger at CLG and asked if they know when they will release the list. Here is her reply:

No, because I just have the numbers, dates and times -I am only releasing the names of the public figures/officials - the Reichwing hypocrites.
BTW, I have a newsletter - if you want to sign up:
http://www.legitgov.org/#subscribe_clg

Thanks,
Lori
www.legitgov.org
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:51 PM
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51. i know for a fact that at least two numbers are not public
figures on the 2006 list... but i will let you good folks rummage through people's personal lives and see which ones they are, since legitgov does not have enough ethics to wait until they have fully vetted the list.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:54 PM
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22. I wish I could type the big grin on my face!
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:57 PM
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23. Like this?
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:20 PM
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27. lol! n/t
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:19 PM
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26. Phone records from 22 Jan 2005 - 22 Dec 2005 have been posted.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:38 PM
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29. Traced one number to Leap Learning in Chicago
The number is listed in a classifed ad under the heading
"MIDWEST
Speech-Language Pathologist"
There is no name associated with the number but there is an e-mail address.

caveat: the date of the publication of the following pdf is Nov. 20, 2004.

Leap Learning Systems based in Chicago. Seeks
creative multicultural SLPs to write and implement
literacy based programs for community
groups and schools. Join a staff that actively
improves their skills daily. Contact
LeapLearning@aol.com or call 847-650-0349.

page 10 of the pdf located at: https://www.asha.org/NR/rdonlyres/B0419B5A-1885-4930-93CB-027C5713984D/0/112004daily.pdf

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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:21 PM
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35. Info on the Winterpark, FL number:
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 08:28 PM by Concerned GA Voter
Stirling International Realty Incorporated
900 Orange Ave
Winter Park, FL 32789-4707
(407) 622-5100
Type: Land Line
Provider: Embarq Florida


http://www.stirlingsir.com/

added:

Ariva Skincare & Day Spa
3940 State Route 251
Peru, IL 61354-1054
(815) 220-1486


http://www.ariva.com/

Edit:

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE INCOMING CALLS

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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:05 PM
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30. Names, places (associated with the numbers) are coming soon. n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:09 PM
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31. who is researching here on DU, any groups?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:54 PM
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33. Thanks!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:41 PM
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48. you work at CLG, no?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:07 PM
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34. 202 494 7080 came up as an Adelphi number in DC.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:45 PM
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39. Adelphi is in Maryland next to DC.
I noticed that too.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:24 PM
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36. I apologize and stand corrected.
I know she intended to pass these out to journalists at first, and figured it would take an act of god to make her go public with them. Because frankly I figured her for an attention....well, whore.

I stand mightily corrected and offer my sincere apologies.

I also thank her and her legal team for seeing that this was they only way to disseminate the information.


My favorite Future Famous Dead Artist: KarenParker
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:49 PM
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50. she intended to pass them to credible and ethical people...
a small group. i am on that group, so i know the agreement we all had to agree to in order to get the documents. what these people are doing violates that agreement completely. i know we all want to know, but those of us who got the list, did so by agreeing to certain conditions (actually, they are moral positions for me anyway), like to not out private citizens, or family numbers and addys, etc. by posting all the numbers up like this, they have violated their agreement to protect private citizens and the source's (madame) family.

Good job... let's all get excited about a sex scandal and destroy countless lives in the process.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:40 AM
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89. I'm straddling the fence on this one.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 07:42 AM by TalkingDog
On the one hand, prostitution should be legal anyway. And I agree, what people do with their own junk is their business as long as it does not endanger the health, welfare or safety of another person.

On the other hand, hypocrisy should always be outed. The mantra of: "The rules apply to you, but not to me." has been going on far too long with this crowd.

I do feel sorry for the countless "johns" who really only broke a pointless law and the potential harm that is imposed on their privite lives.



My favorite Future Famous Dead Artist: KarenParker
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:50 AM
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90. If I'm going to look at anything, I'd rather look at names
of public officials rather than numbers of other people who's lives might be turned upside down. I agree private citizens's telephone numbers should not be posted. I'm bowing out of this thread.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:45 PM
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38. For $14.95 per number you can get the names on Whitepages.com.
Any enterprising DUers want to help me throw down on this?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:48 PM
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:40 PM
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47. you don't know
who any of these people are... remove their names (leave the skin spa, hehehe) until you know if they are politicos and government officials... otherwise, you are basically outing regular, private citizens. maybe you don't mind that, but i don't think that is fair.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:46 PM
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61. well all anyone has to do is look like I did....
I'm sure many here have already seen these names too. If the mods agree with you then I hope they'll redact the appropriate info. As it's past the editing period for me. :shrug:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:05 PM
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43. I'm kicking THIS shit!!1 n/t
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:23 PM
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44. Heres a couple I found
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 09:56 PM by HeeBGBz
Help U Sell
306 W el Norte Pkwy
Escondido, CA 92026-1960
(760) 871-0614

World Star Realty
1717 W Orangewood Ave
Orange, CA 92868-2040
(714) 978-9100
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:33 PM
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45. looks like someone did not read the contract
with regard to how to handle these documents
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:39 PM
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46. The reason BTW there was a contract agreement...
between journos and madame is because:
1. the numbers don't automatically tell you who is on the list, by posting the numbers, you are exposing possibly regular citizens to scandal... private citizens who have no political involvement.

2. because she has asked that the identity and the numbers of her employees be protected and since you don't know who they are, because all you have is numbers, you are violating that part of the agreement.

3. because some of the numbers in question might be names and numbers of her own family and she wanted to protect their privacy. ditto on the rest.

this is really unethical to agree to keep a promise and then go and publish the documents online. it exposes many people who have no need to be exposed to scandal. and i might add, since we are on democratic underground, that you don't know how many democratics in high position are on there.

in any case, this is not right and now people will start digging and posting people's identities without knowing who those people are and why out of all of the documents, 13 years worth, only 20 or so matter... but the trick is to figure out where they are hidding over a 13 year period.

i say again, very unethical.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:04 PM
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54. I agree...public figures should surely be identified...
But others should not be...too great a chance innocents will be smeared...
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:08 PM
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55. right... which is why for days now...
we have been combing through the list, taking out numbers that do not belong to public figures. that aside, we all had to also agree to the terms set forth by the source. and she has herself said anyway, that out of the entire list, maybe 20 are public officials... so when you consider 13 years of business... you are talking about a lot of private lives being destroyed.

i know that i would not want to find my husband's phone number online while surfing through a blog, finding out that way that he had an affair. and then we wonder why the sex scandal stuff is so important to the MSM... the answer is being played out right here... where people clearly do not care how many lives are destroyed just as long as they can find that one big scandal.

blah:(
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:52 PM
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105. Lala, you are a true progressive.
You guys are taking a really important, good tack. If there's anything I can do to lend my hand to your research please PM me and let me know... I'm sure there's room for another pair of hands :-)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:19 PM
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109. im me
always need research help... thanks:)
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:54 AM
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75. I also agree. For your average guy, it's his own business, not ours.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 12:56 AM by Kablooie
And even for public figures, if they haven't been spouting family values and all, they shouldn't be exposed either.
It's the hypocrites that are the issue.

But now that the numbers are out there, they will all be exposed.
No way to stop it now.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:48 AM
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96. A lot of women will lose their vital day jobs.
That's what's going to happen.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:15 AM
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98. yeah...
i have found that the majority of names thus far are of women... i have found over the last few days her family, several hotels, women, and a bunch of real estate agents. none of those folks are newsworthy, but they will likely lose their jobs, and maybe their families. she has no posted the list... but i still disagree on the ethics. so people are no longer violating the agreement as it appears to be void, but the ethics of it still bugs me... so much so that I don't want this story - i told my editor this morning.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:16 PM
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56. Deleted sub-thread
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:57 PM
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106. Larry Flynt found the Vitter # w/in hours; ABC News had that number for how long ?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:55 PM
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52. Citizens for Legit gov?
That is rather hard without ethics and in violation of an agreement with a source. This is really negligent. Congrats on your work at exposing 90% of private citizens, in hopes of locating a corrupt government official.The rest of us, those of us who have some ethics, are going through the list carefully and taking out numbers that are NOT public figures, which is why we have not yet posted the list. Your behavior is unethical at best and negligent, depending how many wives find out their husband's were having an affair by blog... great way to find out!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:00 PM
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:44 PM
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60. Not defending the posters above, really, but I'd want to know
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 10:45 PM by Clark2008
if my husband was using whores. Diseases can ruin lives worse than divorce.

That said, yes, I agree that journalists should live by the agreement they've made.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #60
71. Would you also want total strangers to know?
it's one thing for a family member to know, another for total strangers to be combing through private citizens lives like this.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #60
86. Ditto here too, ignorance is not bliss: it's chlamydia, syphillis, gonorrhea
I sure as hell would want to know.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #52
72. lala I'm sorry that no one seems to be listening to you
If that was, in fact, the agreement, why don't you contact the DU admins? This is just wrong.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #72
76. Because Palfrey already posted the entire bunch of them online herself.
She said that since someone pirated the list, she figured it best to post them herself. So, unless it can be proven that the OP here was the original pirate, then it seems the OP has done nothng against the agreement.
http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/Jeane10c.html
(Link above is currently down due to traffic. )
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #76
84. well...
as far as i know, there was only CLG posting it. Everyone else was busy following the agreement. i will inquire tomorrow
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #72
83. not my place
this is an open forum and the DU owners are not part of the agreement, CGL is
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #52
104. Hey lala, are there any DC Madame connections to this year old story ?
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 12:47 PM by EVDebs
FBI probes Watergate prostitution allegations
Infamous hotel used by defense contractor to entertain lawmakers?
By Lisa Myers & the NBC Investigative Unit
Updated: 4:38 p.m. PT May 4, 2006


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250/

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA."

These "others in Congress and the CIA" would more than likely have contracted out (outsourced/privatized/compartmentalized-for-plausibledenial) any requirements for blackmail or 'entertainment' needs of clients to their military industrial congressional complex.

BTW, with the attorneygate shutdown of Carol Lam's investigations the story appears to have died, at least at NBC's investigative unit. GE owns NBC. GE is a big military contractor to US govt. Go figure.

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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:28 PM
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57. Link to names and places for the Jan. 2006 - Aug. 2006 dates
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. BE is her mother... what are you smoking!!!
why did you do that? or for christ sake. she specifically asked that her employees and private citizens be protected. another name on that list is in violation very specifically to her agreement... and two of them are large business companies, not people... so let's hope that the guys at those companies are NOT private citizens or they may have just lost their jobs too.

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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. The number has been redacted.
Thank you.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. But you are leaving the bill image up
with the line item in the phone list as "redacted" which is like putting that line in dayglow neon.

Personally, I'd rather just see the politico's.
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #62
78. I am only stating this as you think I might be doing harm to Jeane Palfrey:
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:12 AM by rec_report
...Jeane just thanked me and referred CNN radio listeners to the CLG site, so I don't think she's too angry with me.
I will fix any errors regarding the document uploads.
--LRP
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #78
93. No, its the harm to others that i care about
You seem to be missing that point. Innocent people who just happen to either have the number on these old records or people not directly involved in the activities are being pooled into a single group. It's really sad.

If you pull the records from my work cell, you'll have my mom, wife, pizza guy and wrong numbers besides my legitimate work conversations.

My work cell has a recycled number, and I receive a wrong number every couple days. Some end up having a several minute durations as I tend to have fun with the calls, explaining my experiences with Costco, traffic, weather for the day. Its funny as all get out.

Shall we paint the pizza guy as an information security expert/auditor because of his relation to me and my career vis a vis being a number which exists on my billing detail? How about the car dealer telling me my car is ready after its oil change?

Can you see the potential for abuse??? Have you no decency? Don't become like those you lothe....
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #93
100. amen... why does no one else get this?
are we in our own little world or something... this seems incredibly cut and dry to me.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #78
99. ah no...
Jean posted the list now. And I took myself off the story. The ethics of it do not change. A lot of private citizens are going to have their lives destroyed. I don't want to be a part of that. I was fine with investigating this story so long as people were protected, private citizens... but once she posted the list, that violated my standards, regardless of her agreement with her. I don't want to be a party to this. I don't see why it would have been so difficult to go through the list and only put out the public figures and politicos, as well as media sorts. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't know why the rush was worth exposing so many people, some of whom could have simply been her dentist or her gardner and not even a client. It is not right.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. scroll up thread...
where you full image is posted... see those two numbers hon? that is why there was an agreement... so that private citizens would not be outed... if you want to violate an agreement you make with someone, i don't care. what bothers me is the reasons for this agreement were supposed to protect people who have nothing to do with politics. you think you can just throw up a full image of unredacted numbers, then later redact it, without the Internets making copies? Quit while you are ahead... go through and examine the numbers, make sure there are no private citizens, then spread the damn thing far and wide. or, do me a favor, refrain from ever discussing privacy of private citizens again. it really just looks so damn bad and hypocritical.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:50 PM
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63. Drats! Didn't make it.
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Gamey Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:59 PM
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65. Sen. David Vitter R-Naturally....
...apologized Monday night for "a very serious sin in my past" after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service operated by the so-called "D.C. Madam."

Vitter's spokesman, Joel Digrado, confirmed the statement in an e-mail sent to The Associated Press.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070710/ap_on_go_co/vitter_dc_madam
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #65
66. yep and woo hoo, but he was outed
by the list being in the hands of reporters, knowing full well what was coming... not because anyone has yet found his number. he pulled the pre-emptive move.... let's hope others will follow and that will be fun, and slaps at him much deserved.

this is different though.:(
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #66
80. With the greatest of respect Larissa,
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:22 AM by Truth2Tell
and I mean that sincerely,

many of us would rather not have others vet information for us. Even if we are talking about a list of journalists and organizations for whom we have enormous respect (which we are in this case). For all we know, it will be someone from outside that circle who hits upon the missing piece - the hidden Cheney connection that only their frame of reference could achieve; or the hidden Senator who used to work for their wife; or the TV preacher who borrowed their phone. The possibilities are endless.

It's the great power of the Web that the combined resources of so many can be applied to such a situation and the results may be exponentially magnified. Everyone on this list is associated with this scandal in some way or another. I don't like the idea of an every day Joe paying the price for this any more than you do. But the principle of total disclosure is so compelling - and so powerful - and so intertwined with what the Internet medium is about - that I believe it is inviolate.

Just my humble opinion. :hi:

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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #80
82. well said
and while i respectfully disagree, you made a very thoughtful argument:)
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #82
88. private citizens vs public figures
While I agree that private citizens deserve protection, some of us in local communities may want to check up on people who are public figures now but not when they worked in Washington. So the national media might miss these folks. For instance, the Chairman of the CA Republican Party spent 7 years in DC working at various right-wing think tanks. Some of the crooks and lobbyists in San Diego (including defense contractors who bribed Duke Cunningham) also spent time in DC.

Vetting the list too closely would prevent the public from checking and finding out just what our local characters were up to in DC.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:01 AM
Response to Reply #80
87. I have found several instances of calls to real estate agents in various
states, then calls to someone else in that general vicinity right afterwards. A few of the numbers I've been able to trace to people have some interesting tidbits. Namely, how does someone making $14,999 - $24,999 per year qualify to buy a $175,000 house???

I have a theory...
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #87
92. there is
actually a very good answer to your very excellent question. :)
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #92
94. there's a few scenarios playing in my mind...
one involves the madam "catering" a convention of real estate agents, then using it as ammo to help her hide money/assets in someone else's name through real estate purchases. Many of these places didn't have mortgages and were listed as 'Definite Owner', which means (I think) that the place is bought and paid for.

another scenario has the madam setting up brothels around the country, providing services all over like a nationwide prostitution ring.

Either way, with what I've found, I could make a circumstantial case for a callgirl ring that extended far beyond DC. Do you think that's the right direction??
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #94
101. no, well not all no... but some no...
some of those people are her own real estate agents, some are her hair salons, some are former employees (who will likely now lose whatever other job they had)... one woman I looked into appeared to have lost everything right before she went to work as a call girl and then seem to have quit shortly thereafter, it is obvious she was desperate for work. however, now she will likely lose whatever employment she has secured... so the direction i am leaning towards is still the same, many of these people are collateral damage.

but, not all obviously and there is no question that some of these men likely had little parties and ladies were invited. but having spent days pouring over this list trying to take out all of the private folks, i have thus far ended up with 0 and I have yet to find Vitter anywhere. He outed himself to preempt the list, but i have not yet found him... so not sure what the hell is going on.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #101
103. I agree about the collateral damage. No way would I out one of the ladies
or someone who isn't a high value target. There's just no sense in it, really. I'll stick to searching for politicians myself. I don't think it's right that the OP is posting names that are nobodies in the grand scheme of this whole mess.

I found Ms. Palfrey's mother right off the bat yesterday. Why would I want to post her info?

Let's keep up a good standard with this and at least honor the agreement we made.

PEACE!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #80
107. See post #106
Hustler mag found the Vitter phone number within hours; ABC News didn't do a thing...hmmm.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #107
113. the problem you realize of course
is that we simply don't know where Hustler got the number. here is why, what I know both from madam and ABC is that they only got 80% of the documents for a 2 year period. now, consider that she was in business for 13 years and multiply 12 (each month of records) times 13, and you should have hundreds of pages... go count and see how many pages are up.

if ABC got 80% of 3 pages, then i can see how they did not find Vitter. she clearly did not release all of the documents. we don't know what she gave ABC or what she gave Hustler. I have gone through a bunch of pages already and I found one sort of person who dabbled in politics years back... nothing more. i have yet to find Vitter... i am not saying he is not in those documents she just released, but i have yet to find him. so it is not entirely accurate to say that Hustler found the number in hours while ABC buried it... we simply don't know who had what records and we certainly don't have all the records released to us, contrary to her claims.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. Ouch! And his wife just said
she would go "Bobbit" all over his sorry butt!
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. Just the latest political career "HAPPY ENDING" -- ROTFLMAO
APJ tonight: "DC is neck-deep in flop sweat tonight, and it's not from the heatwave."

:rofl:
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:48 PM
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69. Phone numbers change offten!
A phone number used in 2005 by person "A", might belong to someone else now. If your doing research on these phone numbers, don't assume it's the person/place called way back then. The person 'outed' might be some innocent who got the phone number later, never talked to "madame". And suprised to find their phone number on the 'net'.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. NO calling please. if you want to catch a toad you have to be quiet about it.
Now where are those AT&T records?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:47 AM
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73. If you find a 202-456-xxxx number -- it's the White House
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #73
108. Thank you - I'll dig for that one! n/t
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:50 AM
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74. This is the shit!
Is this great, or what?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #74
77. The Rosetta Stone of Washington perversion. You can't make this shit up.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 12:57 AM by shadowknows69
I'm lovin it. Fuck you clown!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:05 AM
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79. This should be the religious right getting excited over this, not us.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:06 AM by Kablooie
Exposing the sins of doctors, real estate agents, and small business owners all over the country.

It's really not right that all these people have to be exposed.

If it's someone who makes a public career fighting sexual activities and then indulges in them himself, he deserves to be outed, but not everyone else.

It seems more like something I would expect of freepers.


Sigh.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #79
81. Maybe you're right, but its so much fun!
Beats the hell out of Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #79
85. amen
imagine next time anyone on this thread argues for privacy rights. it is one thing to go after public figures, it is another thing if every john, haidresser, wrong number, you name it suddenly because part of something like a sex scandal.
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
95. 'D.C. Madam' Phone List Names & Places (Posted)
'D.C. Madam' Phone List Names & Places Note: The page is under construction.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:43 AM
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102. How would one find out where a state rep had a home in the Washington area?
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 11:44 AM by Donnachaidh
There is a number with an Atlanta exchange, but has a Maryland home address. I'm assuming (might be wrong) that the phone was purchased and set up in Atlanta. Could this be a Georgia senator or congresscritter?

It's found on this page:

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:20 PM
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110. I can do detailed searches, BUT, I need someone who's done
some of the homework - #'s they can't find anything for on the net (either through google, waybackmachine or reverse anywho.com lookup ) that are very interesting and write me a list of #'s, I might be able to get something hopefully on one of them but you'd think these people tried to cover up who/where they were calling, and got rid of the phones, but Vitter, for example didn't do that.

I have an expensive account with one of the advanced lookup agencies. I doubt they'll find anything not found already - BUT I'll do it if someone does the above filtering and I'll see what I can find.

I checked 3 but I gotta go do errands. All 3 were blocked at the caller's request by their landline & cell companies, however, I have another search option if I at least know their first name I might get additional info.

Thanks ---

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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:07 PM
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111. Reverse Phone Detective $29.95 for unlimited lookups
http://www.reversephonedetective.com/register.php?p=301-573-1804

If somebody has spare cash and a couple days to spend this is what it's going to take to go through the list. It's a waste of time to do otherwise since most numbers are cell phones
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:19 PM
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112. Phone records from 20 Nov 2003 - 19 Nov 2004 have been posted.
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