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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:11 PM
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Kucinich Reiterates Dropped Support of Holt Election Reform Bill


Calling for Paper Ballots, Kucinich Reiterates Dropped Support of Holt Election Reform Bill
As a New Effort is Mounted by Election Integrity Advocates to Contact Congress Members Concerning the Drive to Ban DRE Touch-Screen Voting Systems Once and For All...


-- Blogged by Brad Friedman from St. Louis...

Charging that Congressman Rush Holt's (D-NJ) Election Reform bill (HR 811) "does not address the concerns that Americans have, to do something about electronic voting," Ohio's Rep. Dennis Kucinich reiterated his withdrawal of support for the controversial legislation last Friday...

FULL REPORT, AUDIO, TRANSCRIPT:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4788
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:38 PM
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1. 'WE' can't even come together on a voting system technology............
that will insure all votes are counted as cast. There MUST be a paper trail with paper receipt verification for every vote cast. Important legislation such as this, that shouldn't be that difficult, can't even get done. Pathetic.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:42 PM
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2. But that would be fair. Don't you understand? The dice HAVE to be loaded?
It's the American way. Or so the Neonates would have it.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:49 PM
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3. Sadly so true....
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:56 PM
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4. Don't you understand why?
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 05:13 PM by GreenTea
The voting machine companies mainly ES&S and Diebold want complete control.

If we get machines to spit out paper receipts, or touchscreens that one reads on the screen, correctly just as one has voted, and the receipt that one receives might also read exactly as one has voted...

BUT, that doesn't mean the machine that the electronic voting machine that Diebold OWNS will record it on the main memory as you voted and that you think you have a receipt for...And once it's in the memory, that's how it will be counted 'officially" and very easily hackable.

The electronic voting machine companies want complete control, citing software infringement...bullshit...they want to be able to cheat plain & simple...That's exactly what the republicans bullshit Help America Vote Act (HAVA) they wrote and rammed through...so they can at any time change, or mis count, or put votes where they want to at ANY given time.

Why should any corporation in this case two republican owned corporations DieBold and ES&S own our vote. Corporations should NOT be able to own and control our vote.

We pay for the machines, the people should own them...but the republicans are holding strong, AGAIN, citing DieBold and ES&S should be able to secretly own and control the software uh....copyright infringement...bullshit, this is our vote and we own the machines and should demand to know what they are actually recording...Still, the republicans want to be able to cheap by manipulating the vote.

The Holt bill will NOT ensure that our vote will be correctly counted by these machines that are now placed in 90% of the precincts in the country just waiting to be manipulated for the 2008 elections.

PAPER BALLOTS AND AUDITS ARE THE ONLY ABSOLUTE WAY TO ASSURE ACCURACY WHEN VOTING OR A RECOUNT...MANY REPUBLICANS IN DIFFERENT STATES ARE FIGHTING THIS SITING IT'LL TAKE TOO LONG, WHO GIVES A FUCK, OUR AND ACCURACY ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT - OR WE ALREADY PAID FOR THE MACHINES, AGAIN, WHO GIVES A FUCK THAT YOU PAID FOR MACHINES THAT CAN VERY EASILY BE HACKED AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVED TIME AND TIME AGAIN!

KUCINICH IS CORRECT ON THIS! THE HOLT BILL ASSURES ALMOST NOTHING. ONLY PAPER BALLOTS CAN ASSURE THIS -- LET'S MOVE FORWARD NOT BACKWARDS AS THE VOTING MACHINES HAVE DONE WITH OUR VOTE!!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:04 PM
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5. I understand completely. The neocon rethugs want secrecy and the ability to...........
commit fraud and change the votes so they can govern and rule for our 'own good'. I am with Dennis 110%; it is truly pathetic what our country has become.
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