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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:52 AM
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CHECK OUT WHAT THESE TEENAGERS ARE DOING!!!
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:07 AM by whereismyparty
For those of us who are sick of the apathy and the ignorance and the complacency in this country, this is a wonderful, heart-warming story (although, admittedly, these kids were a little grand in their initial vision)...Let's cheer these kids on!!!!

ANY DU'ERS NEAR THEIR PATH WHO COULD DRIVE THEIR PACKS AHEAD OR OFFER THEM A MEAL OR A PLACE TO CAMP/STAY?







Peace Marchers of the Loneliest Kind
by Colleen Mastony

LOVELAND, Colo. — Against the majestic backdrop of the Rocky Mountains, in the far eastern corner of Colorado where the land begins to flatten into a vast golden prairie, two teenagers trudge along the weed-bitten edge of an isolated highway. Blistered and sunburned, they endure wind, rain and searing heat. But still, they slog forward in what has become a quixotic journey across the country in an effort to end the Iraq war.

Ashley Casale, 19, and Michael Israel, 18, are walking 3,000 miles from San Francisco to Washington in a trek they once had hoped would rally the nation and lead thousands to join them in their epic March for Peace. But, nearly halfway through their trip, the teens remain alone, wandering the vast landscape of America, where few have paid them any attention.

“It seems like the country is asleep,” said Israel, a rail-thin young man with deep-set blue eyes, walking the roadside on a recent morning, his voice sometimes drowned out by the roar of huge trucks zooming past. “A lot of people we meet are against the war. But it doesn’t seem like many people are doing anything about it...”

SNIP

...Their youthful idealism comes in stark contrast to a sense of complacency in America, where polls indicate that a majority of Americans oppose the war but relatively few of them have taken to the streets in active protest. Even Cindy Sheehan, the longtime face of the anti-war movement, has abandoned her quest, saying she feared her efforts had been in vain. “I shudder to think what it is going to take, after everything that has happened in this country during the Bush administration, to get the country to rise up,” she said...

SNIP

...As they travel the highways, they have glimpsed the nation’s conflicting and complex feelings on the war. One woman working on a road crew in Colorado choked back emotion as she told them her son was shipping out to Iraq. “I don’t like war either,” she said before handing them her last few dollar bills. A Vietnam veteran selling produce at a roadside stand offered the travelers a free bag of cherries. “The government is sending those boys to die just like they did in Vietnam,” he said.

But the marchers also have faced the nation’s anger. An Army recruiter said American soldiers were making the real “march for peace” over in Iraq. And a farmer who initially had agreed to let them stay on his land abruptly asked them to leave after they told him they were protesting. At the entrance of Rocky Mountain National Park, rangers refused to let the pair enter until they put away the signs that read “March for Peace.” And on July 4, a driver in a passing car yelled: “Bunch of hippies! Bomb Iraq!...”

READ IT ALL:

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/09/2400/



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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:02 AM
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1. This is great! People should drive out to greet them and feed them!
:kick: & Recommended!!

I hate it when people say the "youth of today don't care and are apathetic"

because it is NOT TRUE!!!!

At least not the youth that I was once or the youth I am a parent to, right now! ;)

I used to hear that same line of bullshit, when I was a teenager and it pissed me off

just as much then, as it does now!!

"Teacher! Leave them kids alone!!" (Pink Floyd - The Wall) ;)
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:05 AM
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2. Apathy reigns
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:14 AM by Az
There should be an army following them by now. That they are on their own is just a testimony to the gilded trap we live in these days. It makes me weep. But that there are a few making the effort gives me some hope.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:07 AM
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3. I don't think very many people know about their efforts
Are there any DU'ers along their route???Any way to mobilize and cheer them on???
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:18 PM
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36. Here's the website taking donations.
http://www.notinourname.net/content/view/24/1/

Maybe thaose of us who are not along their route can contribute financially. Buy 'em a meal. Or even a bottle of water. These kids deserve it.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:30 AM
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52. if you donate to that site
make sure you put in the feedback section who it's for, I didn't when I donated, had to write them.


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<--- top '08 items & antib*sh stickers!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:09 AM
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4. "reigns"
But your spelling actually works better.

Reins. Whoa, mule.

:)
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:13 AM
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6. That's two grammatical errors today
I must be slipping. I used to be able to churn out dozens an hour.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:16 AM
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7. Shape up, dammit.
:P
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:12 AM
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5. Ahh man if they were coming anywhere near me I'd totally help out
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 01:19 AM by Hippo_Tron
I'd love to meet them and aid their efforts. I'm definitely going to write about this for my college paper when I go back in the fall and I'm going to see if I can get local media to cover this.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:21 AM
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8. Gumpian.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:25 AM
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9. Yep.
That was my first thought too.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:34 AM
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10. Anyone have a more detailed map? It looks like they just went thru my hometown...
or very nearly. :)
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:51 AM
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11. Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
Looks like they're coming right through my area and if they need a meal, a shower and place to sleep there's one waiting for them in Martinsburg, WV!
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:24 AM
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12. Here you go...
Parkersburg, WV (August 17)
Ellenboro, WV (August 18)
Smithberg, WV
Salem, WV (August 19)
Clarksburg, WV
Bridgeport, WV
Tygart Lake State Park (August 20)
Grafton, WV
Thornton, WV
Fellowsville, WV
Erwin, WV
Aurora, WV
Cathedral State Park (August 21)

http://www.marchforpeace.info/theroute.html
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:27 AM
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13. What these fine young folks need.....
...is 100,000 people marching into DC behind them.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:38 AM
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14. Bingo
although one million wuold be even nicer.
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:00 AM
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15. Ok...
I'll take your million and add it to my 100k and now we're getting somewhere.

----------------------------------
Also, quote...

Godspeed, you two, Ashley and Michael …

You WILL make it to Washington by September 11, 2007.
On March 1, 1986, about 2,000 people … a very diverse group of folks from all over The States and from sixteen countries left Griffith Park in Los Angeles to begin our trek to Washington with arrival time of November 15th as The Great Peace March , the latter added in Barstow, California, as our full name of purpose.
.snip.
Down to about 363 people, we regrouped and eventually marched into D.C. with thousands who had joined us along the way and/or were there to welcome us.
-----------------------------
Read the rest of that post (and other good comments) on the OP link.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/09/2400
There are people out there who know how this was done before.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:38 AM
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16. They will be coming through not far from me
Maybe we can organize something here
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:13 AM
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19. That would be so incredible.
They are not coming through my state.:(
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:49 AM
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17. They're coming my way!
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 07:49 AM by Tinman
Winchester, VA on August 24th. I definitely plan on meeting them to give them a strong show of support. This is a pretty red area, so they'll probably need it. And on a side note, anyone who yells "Bomb Iraq" needs to be on the first plane to the green zone to demonstrate their loyalty to Little Boots and his war.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:54 AM
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18. The subject line made me think something completely different.
Disappointment!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:22 AM
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20. these kids were picked up
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 09:25 AM by alyce douglas
because of what they had on their t-shirts, just March 4 Peace, got them arrested, this country is really cracking up, and these law enforcers are losing their minds. I mean :wtf:
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:52 AM
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21. It's not apathy. It's poverty. The AVERAGE teenager earns only half what one in the 70's did.

A teen might be able to afford a cell phone but to take a cross country trip?

Just eight nights at a campground cost more than a cellphone these days.
And unlike during earlier times you can get arrested for camping just about anywhere.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:55 AM
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22. Are these the ones who were arrested in the national park out west?
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:00 AM
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57. yes.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:22 AM
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23. He's 'rail thin' they're surviving on granola bars and donated cherries
we should try to figure out where they'll be along the route and find a way to pay for meals in restaurants, maybe pay online for restaurant gift cards that will be waiting for them when they arrive. How possible is it to do something like this? They only have 2 1/2 months to make their destination and I don't want them to give up or to think America doesn't care.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:48 AM
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24. Now yer talkin'!
I wouldn't know how to organize something like this. Maybe if we could get a web page going with updates on their trip and a paypal donation account. Then maybe they could even stay in a hotel every now and then, with a real bed and a shower.

Food is essential. I don't want to see these kids get sick. We need to somehow let them know that we support them. Cheer them on with signs and groups of people clapping and walking with them a ways.

How do we organize this. Anyone know?
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:07 PM
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29. I hope you don't mind, I'm asking for help and cross-posting in the
state forums where they'll be walking. It's only a couple more months and I figured that getting people actively involved on their route might give them more support (really I think the morale boost of having people walk with them even 3 or 4 miles each day is as important as getting them some food).

Their parents must be so proud!

PS this should be kicked every day until September 11 so people can see it and walk with/support them.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:13 PM
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30. Excellent, SaveAmerica!!!
I agree with everything you wrote!!!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:31 PM
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31. I've recommended your postings in the Nebraska, Iowa & Illinois Forums
Maybe we can get some visibility if they make it to the Greatest page.

It makes me sick that I didn't know about them before the weekend. I could have easily driven to northern Colorado to get them some meals.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:36 PM
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33. Thank you, eleny!! n/t
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:40 PM
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34. Thank you Eleny! I know what you mean about not knowing, but
we can at least try to make the last half of their trip better. Just thinking about two kids walking all that way across America for something they believe so much in impresses me more than I can say. How many times have we seen or written NGU on DU? They are literally walking the walk.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:11 PM
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35. I feel the same way. n/t
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:51 AM
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54. I'm so glad you posted this here!!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:36 PM
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37. Nebraska and Iowa will be a big slog - the prairie climate can be brutal
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:23 PM
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42. Today is not too bad, which is good for them: high of 80 degrees.
I've got the M-F 8 to 5 job and I live in Oregon - I wish I could march with them!
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:50 AM
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25. Do we know the exact route they are walking?
If I'm reading that map right, they are maybe gonna be about five miles away from my house at some point--and most certainly will be getting pretty close to the folks here at the U of Illinois at Urbana Champaign (an oasis of sanity in downstate Illinois.)

Thanks, Estimated Prophet, for the heads up on this one. If those kids are headed my way we'll have to see if we can get them some support out of the local progressive community. I've sent it out to a few of the local folks to see what is cooking.





Laura
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:59 AM
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27. Here's their website with their jroute and planned arrival dates.
http://www.marchforpeace.info/theroute.html

That would be so awesome to greet them with a group of people.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:57 AM
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26. Notice - Their Route Takes Them Through "Gormania," West Virginia
Now this is no shit. I was riding my bike up in the mountains last week when I saw a sign for the road to Gormania. So I thought of Al of course and thought I'd go see the town. As it turns out its one of the unincorporated places that dot West Virginia - basically a bunch of neighbors that live out in the middle of nowehere buy a sign and in the process get themselves a town. With luck a post office comes later; Gormania ain't got one yet.

So there really is sort of a town called Gormania and it seems fitting that these fine young persons will pass through it on their way to Washington. Needless to say we will join them for the part of the treck that takes them by this way.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:00 PM
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28. Love it!!! n/y
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:35 PM
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32. I just noticed they are also going through Gore, VA!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:50 PM
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38. They'll be in Omaha in a few days - I'm calling the local papers!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:06 PM
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40. That's the spirit, progressoid!
Take pics if you can and post them for us.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:22 PM
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39. I'm speechless
I'd never seen this story. I'm inspired by the resolve displayed by this pair. I remember the popular revolt against both parties sparked by the Vietnam debacle, old enough to have marched on Washington in 1970 along with countless other patriots. The Iraq invasion is no more defensible than the US's "police action" in Southeast Asia more than 40 years ago, a tragedy which Democratic Party leaders back then must regrettably share responsibility along with their GOP counterparts. But the domestic, mostly peaceful uprising (I was in Chicago for the 1968 Democratic Convention, and it really was a "police riot") against it awakened a generation. For a while anyway. "Won't Get Fooled Again"? Nope. It's "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Where is the anger?
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:59 PM
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41. kick
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:16 PM
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43. Here's their website:
www.marchforpeace.info

Looks like they'll be coming to my town in August. Woo-Hoo!
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MsRedacted Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:55 PM
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44. I saw them on their way to up to Lake Tahoe
I was on my way up to do a 100mile bike ride/fundraiser around the lake for the Leukemia Lymphoma Society.

They've made good time since then -- but it's been mostly downhill I bet.

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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:59 PM
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45. They 've got the Rocky Mountains behind them.
That's a good thing.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:44 AM
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46. Why in the blue fuck is this not getting more attention?
Perhaps I remain a hopeless optimist when it comes to all things media, but why isn't CNN and MSNBC giving this a mention? And why am I seeing it now for the first time on DU? This is incredible -- this, indeed, is something I myself have dreamed of doing since the war began.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:49 AM
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47. That is a neat story-K&R
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 12:50 AM by nam78_two
I would totally be up for putting them up if we are on their way :bounce:.
Edit: Looks like they won't be moving through my neck of the woods :-/.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:52 AM
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48. The Irony is, if they were carrying signs that said "The Earth is 6,000 years old" and "God wants
women who take the pill to go to prison", the Rangers probably would have not only let them in, they would have given them Park Service Jobs.
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Aptastik Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:05 AM
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49. Perhaps,
But that makes it all the more heroic in my opinion.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:47 AM
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53. Yes, these kids trekking for peace is heroic. Bush turning the Parks over to Creationist loon-bags
is NOT heroic, on the other hand.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:06 AM
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50. Damn they are going to have seriously tired feet...
Rp
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:29 AM
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51. I'll be waiting for them in Indianapolis...
with an offer to relax, eat what my friends call the best Italian cooking they have ever tasted, and sleep over.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:53 AM
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55. Beautiful!!
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:03 AM
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56. For the kids
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:39 PM
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58. kick - traveling through West Virginia now.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 01:32 PM
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59. I bet they wish they were!! They're still in Nebraska...
according to this map of their route:

http://www.notinourname.net/content/view/24/1/



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