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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:36 AM
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It's my Party and I'll cry if I want to
Honestly, how many of us are really happy with the way the Dem leadership seems to be handling Bushco's obstinancy and obvious disdain not only for we, the People, but the branch of government charged with its oversight?

All over the blogosphere, liberal voices are crying out for justice. "Impeach the bastards!" we read. But, unfortunately, impeachment's "off the table." But, well, maybe it isn't. The investigations are being stonewalled (at some point their guilt is going to be so transparent that they'll be down to their last twenty percent of knuckle-dragging knuckleheads) and it looks as though the media is actually starting to turn.

We're watching everything they're doing with some level of impatience, wondering why it's taking so long to do ANYTHING notable. Our qualms are not calmed by one of those we expect to take on the administration publicly declaring what sounds suspiciously like admiration for someone we've grown to both distrust and despise.

We wonder how many of our "representatives" are too beholden to corporate interests to work on OUR behalf. Not just the Repugs, but some of the Dems as well. Some people blame the DLC for this. Others rise up to defend the DLC.

I don't know WHAT organization was behind the Dems voting "aye" on the damn bankruptcy bill, but those who did should be ashamed of themselves, if not tarred and feathered and ran out of D.C. on a rail.

Those who were elected to take on this administration better damn well be putting everything they got into the effort. If they can't wrest the evidence from Bushco's toxic grasp, maybe they should just start publicly extrapolating what they THINK that evidence might be. Sure, the RW pundits will castigate them for it, but it seems pretty obvious Bushco is hiding something that would cause them, and their party, some serious damage.

If this is played correctly, and to the end, we could paint nearly all the Republicans with a GW brush and cripple the party for a generation, at least. The people need to be reminded, as each new thing comes to light, that not only did Bushco do all this, but the Republican controlled congress stood by and LET them do it without a single word of protest. In many cases, they helped by pushing things like the IWR and the Patriot Act.

Most of Congress, with a few notable exceptions, was so caught up in the post 9/11 panic and rush to war that they never stopped to ask a single real question about what they were being told. How is it that WE, the outsiders, the bloggers, the citizen-activists on the other side of a electronic connection, could see the truth when all these "insiders" could not?

It looks like capitulation, cowardice, and (dare I say it) corruption at very heart of our Democracy. It used to be that the Dems stood for the People, or, at least, that was the perception. In the past couple decades, more and more people have come of age truly believing that NO ONE actually represented them. We can revile them for their "apathy," perhaps, but maybe it's not so much apathy as political despair.

Nader caught a lot of heat for (among other things) saying that there was no discernable difference between the parties. I'm happy to say that I don't agree with that statement. Problem is that there isn't a more noticable difference between many of the individual members on both sides of the aisle.

Part of that's the way Congress is structured. More conservative Dems have a better chance of winning in certain districts, and need to vote that way. Maybe there should be a general litmus test for claiming status as a Democrat, however, and maybe, just maybe, some of these people wouldn't pass it.

If I had my druthers, the criteria would be as follows--

Support for:

Universal, single-payer healthcare in America.

A formal apology to Iraq, the withdrawal of the vast majority of troops upon negotiation with the U.N. to step in to take up the slack, and the payment of war reparations.

The ejection of all war profiteering American corporations from Iraq, with foreign companies being brought in to take over the rebuilding once the peacekeeping forces had helped stabilize it somewhat.

Investigation, impeachment, and prosecution of Bushco for not only high crimes and misdemeanors, but also for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The restoration of rights lost through the passage of Patriot Acts I and II.

The repeal of corporate personhood.

Public financing of elections.

Transparent elections with verifiable ballots.

Equal rights for ALL adult citizens, regardless of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.

An end to the Drug War as we know it.

A resolution to do everything possible to make sure abortion becomes or remains, indeed, "safe, legal, and rare."

Vastly increased funding for education, from head start to the university and everything in between.

A resolve to pursue clean sources of alternate energy and to combat global warming on every possible level.


I could add more, but I'd settle for these.


So. The Democratic Party is by far preferable to the Republican Party. But it sure as hell isn't what it should be and I think we all know it. So we can continue to stand here and watch while collaborators and enablers allow the Republicans to skate from their crimes yet again, or we can exert as much pressure as we possibly can to make them realize that we, the People, deserve better than that.

And, as a last note, I'd like to gently recommend that anyone who's in actual contact with Cindy ask her to plunge her dagger a bit more carefully next time. Assault not the Dem Party as a whole (for those are a lot of us associated with it who aren't playing the game by Republican rules) but those who deserve it the most.

And she should double-check her historical facts as well, and explain things like "Party of Slavery" a bit more clearly.

'Course, that's just the opinion of someone who's been behind her the whole way, and thinks she would be far better off if she were a bit more careful in her methods at this point in time.

So if I'm a Dem, and if I'm here posting as a Dem, and am expected to follow the rules regarding supporting Democratic candidates and the Democratic Party as a whole, well, I expect the same respect and loyalty from the party in turn.

Otherwise, it's my damn Party too, and I'll cry and bitch and moan about it if I damn well want to.



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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:38 AM
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1. Lol! I love the title of your post!
:)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:44 AM
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2. Thanks...
I thought it might grab a bit of attention.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:13 AM
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3. I sent Cindy a letter asking her to run as a Dem.
I figure if she runs as a Dem in the primary and gives Pelosi a real race (which with the number of progressives in that district she could), Democrats everywhere would have to take note.

Our party's problem is the Rahm Emanuels, the Chuck Shumers, etc that feel the need to eliminate Progressive candidates as viable choices in elections. Before a primary is over they're funding the centrist, DLC candidate and sending superstar speakers out to raise money for them.

Im Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar, not a really great Senate candidate who had no real ideas of her own and carried some DLC talking points around, was running against Ford Bell who was new to the game but was a sparkplug of a speaker. Before that race even really got rolling, Schumer butted in threw the DSCC's financial machine behind Amy and had Barack Obama speaking for her at fundraisers.

This is what they do to protect the beltway lobbyist structure they have in place. They are totally afraid of a progressive shake up in the party.

A direct challenge to the speaker by a progressive would shake them to their cores.

Hopefully we can force more centrists out and get a ton of viable progressive candidates in these races... even against incumbents who may be a bit too comfortable with how Washington works.

Whereever you live get out there and get some serious progressive candidates running and if you happen to be lucky to have such progressives, help outside your area.

There is a serious misconception that a progressive will lose against a Republican. When progressives get out there and talk about their ideas... Universal Health Care, Ending the War, Equal Rights, helping the poor, etc, etc... WE WIN. These are AMERICAN ideals, not just progressive ones. Republicans have NO ideas.

We need to push the party back to the left and force them to listen to their base. They and the DLCers amongst them, spent the Clinton years pushing us so far to the Right that our party was where Republicans like Goldwater used to be (while Republicans went to the right of Hitler and Atilla the Hun). We need to forcibly push back.

Rp
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:30 AM
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4. On second thought I just read her diary...
She screws up a lot of the facts, goes after income taxation and foolishly lames us for slavery as if that Democratic Party and the party that we became after the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s were the same.

Rp
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:32 PM
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8. Who's diary? n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:59 AM
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14. Cindy's. On Daily Kos.
it's a beauty.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:04 AM
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16. She makes a lot of mistakes in her statement
but she's also not entirely wrong--at least from the p.o.v. of an anti-war activist. The Democratic Party is NOT and hasn't ever really been, in any observable way, "anti-war." Hell, far too many of them don't even seem to be particularly anti THIS war. The way it's been run, sure. But the war itself? Questionable.

Doesn't mean she didn't express herself very badly though, if that's what she was getting at.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:21 PM
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5. K&R#4 How do I emigrate to your country? nt
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:28 PM
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6. If I had my druthers
I'd say, "Mythsaje for president."

The Democratic Party is by far preferable to the Republican Party. But it sure as hell isn't what it should be and I think we all know it. So we can continue to stand here and watch while collaborators and enablers allow the Republicans to skate from their crimes yet again, or we can exert as much pressure as we possibly can to make them realize that we, the People, deserve better than that....

So if I'm a Dem, and if I'm here posting as a Dem, and am expected to follow the rules regarding supporting Democratic candidates and the Democratic Party as a whole, well, I expect the same respect and loyalty from the party in turn.


I didn't leave my party, they left me.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:31 PM
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7. You do realize around half our legislative delegation voted against IWR?
You'd attack them via independent candidacies, split our electorate, and in the process risk replacing Democrats with Republicans? Great. Instead of stopping too few bad policies, we stop none because our pure delegation simply won't have the votes.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:57 AM
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13. Oooh! As many as HALF?
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 02:01 AM by Mythsaje
I suppose I should cheer the fact it was THAT high.

On edit: The last thing we should tolerate is collaborators and enablers in OUR party. If it takes an outside voice (Cindy's or someone else's) to point out where they're screwing up, maybe that's exactly what should happen.

If they actually put some energy into going after these motherfuckers, we wouldn't have to worry so much about splitting votes because the Repugs would be desperate to get away from the big nasty rat corpse tied around their collective neck.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:33 PM
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9. GREAT Post title...n/t
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:34 PM
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10. Because crying about something is the most productive way to fix what you don't like
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:43 PM
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11. She was just making a play on words from THE SONG....get a sense of humor...stat...n/t
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 05:43 PM by Madspirit
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:58 PM
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12. I must apologize for not being as bowled over by the OP's punning virtuosity
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