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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:42 AM
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Can we get Cheney & Libby through FBI translator Sibel Edmonds' case?
"Imagine if Dick Cheney was a foreign agent."

That's what I was thinking while I was reading WaPo's Angler series about the VEEP. Imagine the damage that he could do.

We do know that Cheney salted the Defense Department with his cronies, some of who had been repeatedly investigated for leaking classified information to foreign entities. And at some point, Cheney learnt of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds' case, and he learnt that Douglas Feith, Richard Perle and others were involved in criminal activity involving heroin trafficking, terrorism, and the nuclear black market.

Cheney did nothing. If Cheney isn't a foreign agent himself, then he surely, knowingly, harboured some foreign agents in his administration.

Maybe the best way to get to Cheney, and Libby, is through the Sibel Edmonds case. As a bonus, we'll pick off a few others in the process.

Call Waxman. Demand public open hearings:
DC phone: (202) 225-3976
LA phone: 323 651-1040
fax: (202) 225-4099
Capitol switchboard phone: 800-828-0498

Here's Sibel (SE) describing her case to Chris Deliso (CD):

SE: Essentially, there is only one investigation – a very big one, an all-inclusive one. Completely by chance, I, a lowly translator, stumbled over one piece of it.

But I can tell you there are a lot of people involved, a lot of ranking officials, and a lot of illegal activities that include multi-billion-dollar drug-smuggling operations, black-market nuclear sales to terrorists and unsavory regimes, you name it. And of course a lot of people from abroad are involved. It's massive. So to do this investigation, to really do it, they will have to look into everything.

CD: But you can start from anywhere –

SE: That's the beauty of it. You can start from the AIPAC angle. You can start from the Plame case. You can start from my case. They all end up going to the same place, and they revolve around the same nucleus of people. There may be a lot of them, but it is one group. And they are very dangerous for all of us.


Cheney, in loco presidentis, knew all of this was going on, and he did nothing. In fact, Eric Edelman, from Cheney's own office, is a participant in the criminal ring. Was Cheney a party to it as well? Did he use this information, for example, to blackmail Douglas Feith into providing false intelligence that sold the war? Eric Edelman currently has Doug Feith's old job at the Pentagon, and is no doubt doing Cheney's bidding there. I'm not confident that we'll get a better outcome than when Cheney was using Feith.

Of course, Cheney isn't the only person who knows the details of Sibel's case and did nothing, Everybody Knows (youtube), but if Cheney wants to play president, then the buck stops with him. And covering up and enabling treason? Well, that's impeachable.

http://www.youtube.com/v/DHnIyGWEz_Y

Assuming, arguendo, that Cheney wasn't aware of these activities all along, we can only speculate about when he became aware that some of his senior officials were involved in treason. Knowing Cheney, his first questions at his first briefing on the first day of office was probably 'Who is bribing who? And why?' If so, he would have definitely learned that a special prosecutor was soon to be appointed to investigate claims, backed up by FBI wiretaps, that Dennis Hastert and other congressfolk had been bribed by the people involved in Sibel's case.

At that first briefing, Cheney may not have learnt about the claims against Feith, Perle and others. We don't specifically know (AFAIK) how much information was flowing up the chain of command at that point. Let's be charitable and say that the information about the ongoing counter-intelligence operation was being suppressed at a lower level.

And let's presume that Cheney, famous for planting his agents throughout the bureaucracy, didn't ever hear any whispers about the underlying crimes in Sibel's case until she was fired in March 2002.

But by March 2002, former Attorney General John Ashcroft was involved in Sibel's case, FBI Director Robert Mueller was involved, the highest levels of the State Dept and the Pentagon were involved. It's impossible to think that Cheney, with his coterie of spies in every agency, wasn't fully aware of every detail in Sibel's case.

Apparently President Cheney wasn't too concerned with this treason by Feith and Perle, and they proceeded to sell, launch and lose a war together. As Doug Feith noted in his recent 'Free Libby' letter, Feith and Libby worked together for "several hours," every day. Thick as thieves.

Open public hearings into Sibel's case can help us get to the bottom of this sordid mess. Sibel guarantees that we'll see Hastert, Feith, Perle and Grossman in prison by the end of the process, and we might even snare Libby, Cheney and others in the process.

Let's keep our fingers crossed for John Conyers' hearings into Libby's commutation on Wednesday, but if the outcome is less than satisfying, or if you feel like we are getting away from the core issues:

Call Waxman. Demand public open hearings:
DC phone: (202) 225-3976
LA phone: 323 651-1040
fax: (202) 225-4099
Capitol switchboard phone: 800-828-0498

X-posted at http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2007/07/can-we-get-cheney-libby.htmlhtml">Let Sibel Edmonds Speak
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:54 AM
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1. the dailykos version is...
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:16 AM
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2. if you call waxman...
... can you please let me know how you go.

i'm getting disturbing stories saying that the response is either 'that's old news' or 'that's still under investigation' - neither of which is satisfactory.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:03 AM
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3. self kick
ok - this is my last self-kick before i retire for the evening here in Oz.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:31 AM
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6. ok - im really really going to bed n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:08 AM
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4. Nominated.
Imagine if the OVP/OSP had a bunch of people engaged in espionage .... like in the Plame scandal and the neocon/AIPAC scandal?
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:32 AM
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5. right.
always good to see you h20man.

right. it's amazing that, even despite the 'Angler' series (and every other data-point we've collected along the way), that no-one dare actually come out and say 'gee, cheney appears to act like a foreign agent'

(ftr - i have no evidence, or even a specific suggestion, that Cheney's crimes against the constitution are in the interests of a specific foreign power.)
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Horseradish Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:03 AM
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8. Actually ...
IMHO, "Foreign" agent doesn't work because Cheney and the web of folks around him don't believe in countries. They are all agents foreign to the rest of the world, with loyalties only to their legacies of power. I sense no patriotism from them. None.

The U.S. is historically a pretty safe place for global corporate home bases, until you steal billions from the American tax payers and have to relocate your base of operations to Dubai.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:36 PM
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10. "Foreign" agent
i think you might be correct re Cheney specifically, but maybe he's just good about not leaving fingerprints. Condsider the people around him in the OVP and the DoD - many are explicitly Foreign agents.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:54 AM
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7. K&R n/t
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:02 PM
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9. K&R...
look up the Knights of Malta. I don't know about Cheney specifically, but many of these could be considered "foreign agents" who swear their allegiance to other than the US government.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:51 PM
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11. Thanks lukery
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 06:51 PM by seemslikeadream
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:05 PM
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12. thnx SLAD n/t
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