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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:09 AM
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Are the maniacs about to 'Let It Happen On Purpose'?
I hear chatter.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:12 AM
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1. They will do anything to get what they want.
Playing terra politics with another America city as a pawn would be right up their alley.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:13 AM
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2. Darth chertoff had a 'gut feeling'.
And I feel a tightening around my throat.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:21 AM
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6. chertoff's gutless guts are prolly acting up out of terra alright...
He's prolly scared shitless that his name is on the DC Madame's shit list too.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:24 AM
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9. I dunno.
The idea that that man could actually have sex...with a human, well, it's shocking. Surprising. I don't believe it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:22 AM
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7. Well, I don't.
And it doesn't much matter if it's true. Every time you choke up on one of these ridiculous terror threats, you give them outrageous power. TERRORISM IS THE LEAST OF OUR WORRIES.

TERRORISM IS A FUCKING FLEABITE COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE FACING.

Stop being distracted by nonsense. If they manage to kill as many as before, Bush and Chertoff are total failures at the one thing they claim expertise in. If they don't kill as many, well, you're only as good as your last movie.

Stop being a patsy. Worry about whether you have healthcare in case you get injured or sick. Because the first responders sure don't have any.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:14 AM
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3. they obviusly let 911 happen.. why wouldnt they let it happen again.?! worked real good the 1st time
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:15 AM
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4. Wouldn't Put It Past Them
But doubt their ability to pass it off any longer. Good Gawd, does that mean I still harbor some faith in the American people? Don't know where that is coming from but I seem to.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:18 AM
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5. Frankly, Philosoraptor, I believe that these sumbitches are about to do just that
I don't know what it's going to take to wake the rest of the retarded remnant, (that unbelievable 29%) to what these evil and impish demons are doing and capable of doing in the future but I wonder how the rest of the morons are going to view their dear leader when this happens. I wonder if even a few of them will have their eyes cleared of the scales and see things for what they really are. I'm willing to bet that at least 10 to 15% won't be able to continue to maintain their willful blindness afterwards.

What's that saying,"None are so blind as those who REFUSE to see."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:28 AM
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10. So how many do you think they'll kill?
More than 3000? Bush better have a secure hiding place. Less than 3000?

We kill that many on our highways and with our cigarettes. THE COUNTRY WON'T BE DEAD. In which case, so bloody what? Been there, done that. Lived thru it.

So stop this sniveling gutlessness. Terrorism is crap. But it obviously works on weak and slavish minds.

By all means, do Chertoff's work for him.

Hysteria isn't becoming in anyone.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:37 AM
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12. I think they aim to outdo 911 but none of these imps are the sharpest knives in the drawer
nor are they the brightest lights in the harbour. I think that what they aren't factoring in is the response of the faceless millions like me who may be frightened AT FIRST by the chaos and disorder...THEN ABOUT 5 MINUTES LATER----I get pissed as hell because someone tried to intimidate me by frightening and hurting me or mine.

I don't think that realise the tsunami of retaliation and anger that will explode in their faces if anything else happens, trust me.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:22 AM
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8. "Rick Santorum 'joins' Dennis 'all we need is some attacks on American soil' Milligan"
Previously posted by CGowen: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3361703&mesg_id=3361703

3361703, Rick Santorum 'joins' Dennis "all we need is some attacks on American soil" Milligan
Posted by CGowen on Sat Jul-07-07 02:59 PM

"You know, I’ve talked to all three of the major candidates, that I think will be the major candidates, and that’s Giuliani, Romney and Thompson. I think those will be the three major candidates when we head into the final analysis. And I think all of them understand the issue very, very well, they understand particularly the importance of Iran, and confronting Iran in the Middle East as an absolute lynchpin for our success in that region, and I think they are committed to that. And while it may not be a popular thing to talk about right now, and I know public sentiment is against it, they understand the importance of the national security of this country, and they also understand that between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public’s going to have a very different view, and part of it will be the education that these three men will be imparting on the American public during the course of this campaign."
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/Transcript_Page.aspx?ContentGuid=bd02aa0e-7953-414b-89ff-64db473685bc


“In his first interview as the chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party, Dennis Milligan told a reporter that America needs to be attacked by terrorists so that people will appreciate the work that President Bush has done to protect the country. ‘At the end of the day, I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on (Sept. 11, 2001),’ Milligan said to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, ‘and the naysayers will come around very quickly to appreciate not only the commitment for President Bush, but the sacrifice that has been made by men and women to protect this country’.”

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Arkansas_GOP_head_We_need_more_0603.html
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:30 AM
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11. they do want it pretty bad
My personal nightmare is the false flag nuking of San Francisco or Los Angeles.
They could declare martial law and destroy another major city that doesn't support them.
ofc I thought they would evade the 2004 election that way, too.
Their henchmen are always trying to pull something nasty.
So far its been provoking groups of unemployed men into talking about attacking targets they lack the bus fare to reach. But their technique could improve.


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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:40 AM
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13. Well maybe... no, actually and truly,
some people think that you are a genuine asshole for ridiculing LIHOP.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:40 AM
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14. They may decide to wait until a Democrat gets in, then MIHOP.
They cannot win in 2008. I don't think they even have the numbers to steal it.

So, let a Dem get in then MIHOP, blame the Democrats then take over again in 2012.

Just a theory. :)



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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:50 AM
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15. they need to do something
to pull their butts out of the fire

as far as letting an actual attack happen - well, should it happen on bush's watch again, it shoots down the whole 'safer with bush/republics' spin.

and yes the chatter has been ramped up, i.e. special meeting, gut feeling etc...

the opening lines of this article sums it up:

Security chief: US at a higher risk of terror
Detroit Free Press - 2 hours ago
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS07/707110420/1009

BY EA TORRIERO CHICAGO -- Fearing public complacency over possible terrorism threats, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Tuesday that the nation faces a heightened chance of attack this summer.

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ummm- we're being told be scared because we're complacent?


I see a couple of weeks of being told to be afraid, and then a sigh of relief as some gang of garage guys are arrested



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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:11 AM
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16. It is easier the second time
Only this time they will not be able to blame Clinton, but they will claim that we need martial law to protect our freedoms.

If it enables them to remove the last of our rights, they will let it happen. But then they may actually be orchestrating it???
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:20 AM
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17. Hopefully when some admin flunkie
starts issuing stand-down orders to some critical anti terrorism agency, the people in charge will look a little askance at such orders and report it widely and not become unwitting pawns in a new possibly homegrown attack. Blow the whistle on the treasonous bastards.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:54 AM
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18. They are certainly praying for it....Chertoff, Santorum and others have been publicly
They now realize it is their only hope of a successful 08.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:54 AM
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19. I'm reading Glenn Greenwald's new book, "A Tragic Legacy"....
I'm less than half way through it, but he has some interesting, and alarming views of how the lying weasel and his cronies think and react to events. The lying weasel's world view of good vs evil, with no middle ground, limits his ability to see or respond to reality. Since he is on a mission to eliminate Evil, and his broad view that anyone that does not agree with his policies is evil, or supports the evil ones, makes his leadership very dangerous.

The driving philosophy and ultimate goal of the administration has been a virtually limitless expansion of its own power. For that reason, the weaker and more besieged the administration feels, the more compelled it will be to make a showing of its power. pg 95


The most dangerous George Bush is one who feels weak, impotent, and under attack. Those perceptions are intolerable for him and it is doubtful if there are many limits, if any, on what he would be willing to do in order to restore a feeling of potency and to rid himself of the sensations of his own weakness and defeat. As he has made repeatedly and unambiguously clear, he is an instrument of the Good and is faced with true Evil. His mission is just and necessary, and he will therefore pursue it without constraints. pg 95


I don't support fear mongering, but I do think it is important to be aware of the depths of the lying weasel and his advisers' desire to maintain power, and to complete his (and their) mission, without regard to who may be hurt in the process.

It has occurred to me that this could be a part of the reluctance of Congress to pursue impeachment. When I was in DC, I met with Stabenaw along with others in my group from Michigan. It struck me as she was talking about this administration, that there was something that she wanted to share about them, but could, or would not. It was like, "you have no idea what we're really dealing with". Her attitude, voice tone, and even body language, set the antennae on my tinfoil hat to vibrating. Some in the group took it as making excuses for the lack of action by the Dems. It could be that, but then it might be their fear of what the lying weasel might do if pushed too far.



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