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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:58 AM
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"If you've got fire into the...Green Zone every day, then...security situation in Baghdad sucks..."
Wednesday, July 11, 2007

20 Rockets, Mortar Shells, Hit Green Zone; Kill 3
Petraeus Meets with Presidency Council

On Tuesday, guerrillas launched some 20 katyusha rockets and mortar shells into the Green Zone in downtown Baghdad, killing 3 persons, including a US soldier, and wounding 25 persons.

The Green Zone was originally supposed to be the safe place in Iraq, with the area outside it (everything else) called the "Red Zone." The US Embassy in Baghdad appears to have forgotten what the phrase "Green Zone" means, since a spokesman there told the LAT, "There's fire into the Green Zone virtually every day, so I can't draw any conclusions about the security situation based on that . . ."

Let me draw the conclusion. If you've got fire into the friggin' Green Zone every day, then we can draw the conclusion that the security situation in Baghdad sucks big time. When you've got people killed and a large number of people wounded in the one place in Iraq that was supposed to have a "permissive" security environment, then security in general is the pits.

Now you might say that we can't draw many conclusions from the events of a single day. And, being able to lob mortar shells over a wall doesn't speak to that much organization. But then what about these two nuggets in the LAT story?

1) "There were about 39 attacks in May, compared with 17 in March, according to a U.N. report."

2) "Tuesday's attack came the same day gunmen kidnapped Iraqi Police Col. Mahmoud Muhyi Hussein, who directs security inside the Green Zone . . .

In other words, the security situation in the Green Zone is spiralling down at an alarming pace, and the guerrillas have such good inside knowledge that they can kidnap the very person responsible for security in it, as he drives in Jadiriya. That, my friends, is an inside job. And such an inside job doesn't bode well for future security in the Green Zone. For one thing, presumably they are "debriefing" Col. Hussein as we speak, looking for weak points.

People I know and respect are in the Green Zone, so I'm pretty distressed by this situation, and not amused by the embassy spokesman's attempt to blow smoke up our posteriors. This looks bad.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:01 AM
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1. But, but, Joe said they're 'on the run'. He couldn't be wrong, could he?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:37 PM
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8. It's become utterly sick- Lieberman's comments weren't just spin, or
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 06:37 PM by Marr
a different interpretation- they were completely divorced from reality. It's amazing how far we've drifted from sane discourse. The pro-war side is simply stating what they wish were true as if it's fact.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:01 AM
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2. that Green Zone is not immuned from attacks
and I am sure there will be many more attacks until we leave.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:26 AM
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3. I think that they are waiting for a hit so big...
that many americans will be killed and then he will decide to leave, or begin to make the situation worse.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:26 PM
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4. Kick! n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:29 PM
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5. Yep. I think the "surge" of attacks on the Green Zone
which its residents used to think was immune to attack, is a clear indication security is going further down the tubes rather than improving.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:41 PM
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6. They can't even keep the Green Zone safe. Yikes.
This is FUBAR.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:03 PM
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7. Kick! n/t
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