UhOh: A former Louisiana madam says Vitter

[malaise]

was also her client. Just saw that on MSNBC - Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[cspanlovr]

1. family values strikes again

[NewJeffCT]

2. But, 9/11 changed everything

he was just encouraging these young girls to choose another line of business. It was all totally innocent, I tell ya.

[malaise]

3. LOL

:rofl: :popcorn:

[Tesha]

5. In fact, they were so moved by the spirit that they fell on their knees in front of him

while he prayed "Oh Jesus! Oh God!!!"

Tesha

[NewJeffCT]

9. and they would even

put on Catholic school-girl outfits for him, just to show him their godly side.

[BOSSHOG]

11. Okay Jeff you beat me to it today

Since 9-11 the stress on Senators has been incredible.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. I dunno. Politicians and people who work in "vice" are practically

tradition in Louisiana.

Check out the bio on Governor Earl Long in the 40s and 50s.

[malaise]

6. Link from The Shreveport Times

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS01/707110353/1060/NEWS01
<snip>
Jeanette Maier, known as the Canal Street Madam, appeared on WDSU-TV's evening newscast Tuesday night saying Vitter frequented her Mid-City brothel in New Orleans beginning in the mid-1990s.

In Louisiana, the growing allegations led some to speculate that Vitter could not survive politically and might be forced to resign.

"It's one thing to say, yes, my phone number showed up on a list it shouldn't have; it's another thing to have live interviews with prostitutes," said University of Louisiana-Lafayette political scientist Pearson Cross. "Voters of Louisiana will be deeply disturbed by what appears to be a pattern of sexual misdeeds.

"Given Vitter's strong Christian message and family values campaigning, this has to constitute the most serious and weighty challenge to his continued effectiveness as a United States senator," Cross said. "I think there's a strong chance he's not going to survive this."

[whistle]

12. Practical question, as Senator Vitter is a republican and the Governor

...of Louisiana is a democrat, Kathleen Blanco, if Vitter resigns, would Blanco get to pick the Senator who would replace him? If she does that, the Democratic majority becomes 51, a solid democratic voting block. Any other republicans on the Canal street Madam's list who can be exposed?


http://www.gov.state.la.us/

[whistle]

7. Repeatedly visited her establishment in New Orleans I understand

...from a video where she spoke of Vitter's "quality of character" and need to have a someone he could talk to! So much for all Vitter's public speeches on marriage as a partnership.

Might it be possible that his wife Wendy is a witch? After all she said she would turn her husband into a eunuch or an un-prick with her kitchen butcher knife if he ever did such a thing again. I wonder if that ground rule was established way back on their wedding night?

[yardwork]

8. PLEASE stop blaming David Vitter's behavior on his wife!!!

That is ridiculous. It's a pathetic throw-back to extremely sexist ideas that "men can't control their impulses" and "it's the responsibility of the wife to service her husband."

David Vitter made his own choices. He's a very powerful man from a wealthy, well-connected family. The idea that he had nowhere to turn but to a prostitute is absurd.

[whistle]

15. I did not suggest this, that is what the madam said in her own words on the video

....which was posted here on DU just lasty evening.

And, unless the sources I've read about Wendy Vitter's response about how she would deal with future infidelities by her husband were total misquotes, she did say words to the effect she would be more like Lorena (Gallo) Bobbitt and use her kitchen knife to walk away with more than alamony. That was hardly a vealed threat.

<snip>
Lorena Gallo, Virginia woman found not guilty by reason of insanity for cutting off husband's penis in 1993, is charged with assaulting mother (S)... <more>

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C00E1DA163CF93BA35751C1A961958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


This is why divorces are available in this country so that when marriages fail to be loving open partnerships they can be disolved in a civil manner. The tragedy here for the Vitters it appears, was that they were living the conservative religious right's flawed concept of what a marriage ought to be and all the while it seems that it was a sham on a number of levels. That is very sad.

[yardwork]

19. You called her a "witch."

As a pagan, I find that deeply offensive. Also, it was a clear suggestion that David Vitter's visiting prostitutes was due to his wife's behavior.

He's probably been seeing prostitutes all his adult life. Men who think it is ok to visit prostitutes usually don't feel that it is a reflection on their marriage. They like the power associated with paying someone subordinate for sex.

[leftofthedial]

10. goddamned hypocrites

smug fucking repuke pieces of shit

[SpiralHawk]

13. Vitter is ANOTHER freaking republicon CHICKENHAWK, too

What is it with repubicons? So many chickenhawks...

[SpiralHawk]

20. Joining the long list of shame: chickenhawk republicons

Commander AWOL
Dickie Five Deferments Cheney
Limbaugh
Lott
O'reilly
Hannity

Sheesh - such cowardly shameful republicon behavior

[Canuckistanian]

14. So does he have to get forgiveness from God again?

Or did the first forgiveness give "blanket coverage" for similar sins?

I'm confused as to how this works, exactly.

[whistle]

16. Go to Catholic confession and experience it for yourself

...there is a bit more to it than just asking for God's forgiveness.

<snip>
CONFESSION AND DOING PENANACE FOR SINS COMMITTED

"Which one of you with a hundred sheep, if he lost one, would fail to leave the ninety-nine in the desert and go after the missing one till he found it? And when he found it, would he not joyfully take it on his shoulders and then, when he got home, call together his friends and neighbours, saying to them, "Rejoice with me, I have found my sheep that was lost." In the same way, I tell you, there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner repenting than over ninety-nine upright people who have no need of repentance."

"The disciples were filled with joy at seeing the Lord, and he said to them again, 'Peace be with you. 'As the Father sent me, so am I sending you.' After saying this he breathed on them and said: Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven; if you retain anyone's sins, they are retained." A Catholic priest has been given permission and authority from God to forgive sins.


GOOD MEN FALL AT TIMES, BUT ALWAYS GET UP AND TURN BACK TO GOD
"For though the upright falls seven times, he gets up again; the wicked are the ones who stumble in adversity." Proverbs 24:16 The scripture tells us that good men stumble and fall at times into sin, but they always get up and turn back to God. Wicked men sin, but never turn back to God and so they are lost.

<MORE about the process here>

http://www.jesus-passion.com/PENANCE.htm

[malaise]

18. I guess so

:popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl:

[roamer65]

17. He's toast.