Breaking: Snowe Defects (on Iraq 120 days) link

[Perky]

Snowe Embraces Troop Withdrawal Bill
WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Olympia Snowe on Wednesday became the second Republican to embrace a bill ordering troops out of Iraq as President Bush's national security adviser tried to stop defections from the White House war policy. Snowe, R-Maine, joined Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., in co-sponsoring a bill that would require troops to start leaving in 120 days. The bill also would end combat by April 30, 2008.

Eddited to add Link

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ?SITE=CATOR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-07-11-11-33-27

[graywarrior]

1. Good for her even tho she just got re-elected and is safe for another 6 years.

But having lived in Maine for awhile, I am not surprised that she is doing this.

[Perky]

5. even more reason to applaude her/

[graywarrior]

9. I always liked her, even tho she's on the evil side.

[progressoid]

13. Yep - she's the kind of Republican I can live with.

If I have to.

[Benhurst]

22. She has enabled far too much of Bush's treason for my tastes. NT

[graywarrior]

24. True and at some point there will be a payback.

But if we must deal with republicans, I'd rather deal with one who has the ability to reason.

[nealmhughes]

23. My statement to the dinner table the other evening: "You know, you need a few Republicans for the

purpose of debate and putting out alternative views, like say, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins and Mayor Lindsay...amd you know, I sorta like John Warner, too." To which the table agreed!

[roguevalley]

31. go back a few on her record and you will see that not only is she

not doing this for anything more than her longterm welfare, but she probably won't stop voting for him anyway. she likes to get it on the news and then do what she wants anyway. she's worse than those who go down with the ship. she even looks like a rat.

[peacetalksforall]

2. You had my hopes up - thought she left the Party.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. maybe some of them will 'cross the floor'

[Perky]

6. I modified the Subject thanks for the heads up/

[jgraz]

8. Shit, I was hoping she'd hopped a boat for Cuba.

[AndyA]

3. WOO HOO! The SS Bush is sinking like the Titanic, and everyone wants to get a lifeboat

before they're all gone.

I predict there will be many more abandoning the bad ship Bush soon.

[malaise]

12. The gig is up

SSS Bushco is going down.

[mainegreen]

7. If Snowe defected, I wonder if Collins is far behind?

[Captain Hilts]

16. Not far. She's not that bright, so Snowe will make her follow. nt

[wryter2000]

10. How many does this make?

Snowe
Domenici
Hagel
Gordon Smith
Lugar

I know I'm missing some.

It would be awesome if we could get enough to overturn a veto.

[Perky]

14. I have 13 on my list

who have voiceds serious reservation about the was

Collins Warner Coleman Smith
Snowe Lugar Bennett Alexander
Sunumu Domenici Roberts
Specter Hagel Brownback


Loddy Dole showed a little backbone last night, but she is stilll iffy in my view.

[Strawman]

28. We need 17 solid votes

to override. 51-49 minus Joe = 50. We need 67 votes in the Senate, 290 in the house.

I'm skeptical of anyone who can't even vote for cloture on the Webb Amendment. By September, it may be different. Hopefully.

Right now I'd say we're at least 11 votes short.

[wryter2000]

29. Wow

I didn't know that many were on-board.

[Perky]

30. Don't get ahead of yourself on this

that is 12 expressing real doubts about current policy...Getting consensus on what to do next is like herding kittens.

[wryter2000]

32. True

And they found enough Republicans to filibuster the Webb measure.

I'd like to see the roster on that one.

[TahitiNut]

11. "As Maine goes, so goes the nation"??

Maybe ya gotta be old to remember that one. :shrug:

[Captain Hilts]

17. R e a l l y. old. nt

[Benhurst]

25. I'm really old and I remember it. But it should be revised: "As Maine goe,

so goes Maine."

[TahitiNut]

27. Yep. It was hackneyed convention blather back when party conventions were ...

... high entertainment in the early days of television. It was reiterated on election night. I even recall listening to convention and election night coverage on the radio as a kid and that line was a standard bit of nostalgia.

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. It's not clear that she's actually "defecting"

What I was hearing in the past several days was that Cons would be calling for a change in direction blah, blah, blah BUT (big BUT here)...in that ever so lovely spirit of staying loyal to the Party they would not vote with the Democrats. Instead, what they're going to do is craft their own Bill and won't sign onto a Bill with Democrats.

By doing it that way, they put the ball in their court challenging Democrats by say, "Do you want a change in direction or do you just want to play politics and take credit for a change?" harumpf!

[OzarkDem]

20. Who really knows

what will be in the GOP version of the bill when its done? It may be all for show, with little substance.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. That's the thing! Another upperdown non-binding resolution

that they can take back home and say, "SEE??? I voted to end this! In fact, I co-sponsored the Bill that said to the President we must end this!"

Pisses me off they pull this crap, and it pisses me off that they play politics 24/7 with each and every move they make.

[WilliamPitt]

18. Link?

[Perky]

19. there ya go

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ?SITE=CATOR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-07-11-11-33-27

[Bitwit1234]

26. She has voted with the dems a couple of times.

It's Collins we ought to go after.

[trashcanistanista]

33. Collins voted on the Dem side of

the Webb Amendment today, so she may be in, also Voinovich. NOT SPECTOR. I don't believe Spector for a minute, we can't count on his vote. He is a lying sack of sh*t.

[nolabels]

34. That summer recess is how far off?

This sounds more like protecting one's backside. What will them campaign managers and supporters in their prospective states be whispering in their ears during that home time :shrug: