202-224-9655 (So Far - Just A Clue...)

[kpete]

202-224-9655

There was a brief call between someone at this number and Palfrey the day after Christmas in 1998. What's interesting is that 224 is the prefix for Senate phone numbers. The obvious question, then, is, who in a Senate office was talking to the DC Madam? Could it have been a senator? Senator David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican who has acknowledged calling her service, was not elected to the Senate until 2004. Or was it a Senate aide looking to take advantage of her services? Or was it a Senate employee working for the escort service? Or did someone dial a wrong number?

On-line searches of the number have yielded no clues. And I have yet to discover a searchable Senate phone directory from 1998. Thus, this clue remains just a clue.

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2007/07/looking_for_joh.php

[DavidDvorkin]

1. I keep refreshing that page

Hoping for the answer to appear and that it will be juicy.

[ORDagnabbit]

2. call the number?

[napi21]

3. I tried calling the #, but there was no answer and no answering machine.

I also tried google. I don't know how else to find out.

[knight_of_the_star]

56. Maybe its a number that can only call out

That's probably possible, one that calls out to setup appointments or something that shouldn't see public knowledge.

[bluestateguy]

4. Could be a staffer

I'm combing through my Almanac of American Politics from that year right now. It has the phone numbers.

[Contrary1]

5. This may help...

It has lots of info from 1998. I'll do some checking too.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cdirectory/browse-cd.html

On Edit: Frist had a similar number in TN. 731-424-9655 Wouldn't that be something?

[Hubert Flottz]

6. Trent Lott?

McCain?...Pat Roberts?...Sambo Brownback?...Joe LIEberman?...Sneaky Pete Domenici from New Mexico?...Phil Gramm from Texas?...John Warner?...Arlen Sphencter?...Zell Miller?...Orrin Hatch?...Jeff Sessions?...Fred Thompson?...Kay Bailey Hutchison?...Kit Bombed?...John Asscraft?...Jim Bunning?...Bitch McConnell?...Don Nickles?...Judd Gregg?...Chuck Ghastly?...Lauch Faircloth?...Frank Murkowski?...Ben Nighthorse Campbell?...Michael Crapo?...Ahmed Chalabi?...Bandar Bush?...Hitler?...Rev. Moon?

[yardwork]

7. Someone in the Senate called a prostitution service the day after Christmas in 1998.

Nice family values at work there.

[bmbmd]

9. I guess they didn't get what they wanted

in their stocking.

[WinkyDink]

105. Right now some Republican wife (I'm betting) is remembering her husband said, on 12/26, he

"had to get to the office."

Heehee.

[NNN0LHI]

8. If it turns out to be Joe Lieberman's office drinks are on me n/t

[LeftNYC]

90. The thought of Joe having sex would make me lose my drink...

but i'll take you up on that...:)

[caligirl]

10. new phone search site from DCMadam http://www.dcphonelist.com/

http://www.dcphonelist.com/

[Oreo]

72. Finding this unreliable

Look downthread for a link to a searchable pdf file

[helderheid]

11. ? anyone willing to pay for it?

http://www.reversephonedetective.com/searchresults.php?p=202-224-9655

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[originalpckelly]

18. Don't do that, we won't get anything. It'll probably just say that it's owned by the US Senate...

that won't be of any help.

What we need to do is look at documents from 1998 from the Senate, and see if they have this number.

[Subdivisions]

12. John Cornyn...or, even better,

Kay Bailey Hutchinson?

Please?

[helderheid]

13. What I've found so far

[phone] is a land line based in Washington, DC
The registered service provider is Verizon**.
Detailed listing information is not available.
**Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider
Search Suggestion

* 224-9655, DC

[helderheid]

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[Virginia Dare]

22. I just checked the 1999 Spring CQ Directory..

nothing in there matches that number. The only suffixes starting with "9" were mostly fax machines, TDD's and a couple of committee staffers. Still looking for 1998...

[originalpckelly]

26. The phone records for december 98-jan 99 don't have anything about the day after christmas.

[Virginia Dare]

33. I wonder if the number is accurate..

I did find one number that is one digit off?

[originalpckelly]

39. What digit? Huh? You mean you found something with a 224 prefix?

:wow:

Please, PM me if you have to, that might be what's going on.

[Virginia Dare]

50. PM'd you...n/t

[helderheid]

15. get this on the greatest for more researchers

[yardwork]

16. k&r

[originalpckelly]

17. I just called the number, and it doesn't do anything but ring endlessly.

However, that's a good sign. It shows that the number hasn't been disconnected.

Now I just wonder who's on the other side of that number. I'm going to keep calling.

[originalpckelly]

19. The Senate has an operator, I wonder if I could get them to spill the beans?

I could call and say, "I received this call on my phone earlier this morning and I don't know who it is, when I called back it rang endlessly. I remembered from calling my Senator that 224 is their prefix, could you be of some help? Is this either of my Senators?"

[helderheid]

21. not a bad idea! Could we get the number to Mr. Flynt? He has a knack for these things! :)

[originalpckelly]

24. What we need is a directory of senate numbers.

I wonder if we contacted someone from our side in the Senate, would they help us get our hands on that directory?

[wuushew]

47. We should also use logic to determine the phone schema

Phone numbers are often assigned by alphabetic order or room arrangement. Even if that exact number is not listed we should be able to determine what floor or suite of rooms the number is associated with. If we know that we can make an educated guess at the Senator.

[BuyingThyme]

20. I get a lot of hits when I rearrange the digits.

It's spooky.

[originalpckelly]

23. I couldn't find this in the phone records...

anyone else able to find it?

The latest bills in the 98 phone records go to the 22nd of december that year, the earliest in the 99 phone records starts at 27.

[Flying Dream Blues]

25. Coincidence? I think not...(tinfoiling but still, it IS odd!) nt

[Oreo]

27. I found the 105th congress directory online

I've been looking into this too
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1304901&mesg_id=1304901

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cdirectory/browse-cd.html

[originalpckelly]

28. OMG! You are a fucking genius.

I'm searching now!

[helderheid]

29. I can't find the number on any of those. :(

[Virginia Dare]

31. 1998 Almanac...

nothing :(

[blitzen]

35. there is a 9655 linked to Frist's office, but a different prefix...

probably coincidence (?)

[Virginia Dare]

36. run the number through the database and see if you get a hit!..n/t

[helderheid]

38. no hits

[originalpckelly]

37. It's a totally different location...

it's back in his home state. I saw it too.

[blitzen]

40. right, probably coincidence...unless somebody requested that

number so they could remember it easily

[originalpckelly]

42. Ooooh, now there's a thought.

Hmmmm.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

63. I Searched Every Number From Every State For That Session. Nothing Even Close.

I don't think we're going to link this back to anyone directly. The fact you found another number only two digits higher makes me even more certain of that. No two senate numbers should be that close. Is it possible these numbers are generic type switchboard numbers that route calls? For example, if I call anyone from work they will see a number, but it's a generic one. If they called it back, they wouldn't get me.

But that number wasn't listed in that directory you provided, which listed a multitude of numbers for every single rep and senator.

[originalpckelly]

67. The US Senate switchboard is [phone]

I think it's pretty certain that the US Senate has previously requested an entire range of numbers in the 202 area code with the prefix 224.

What we're looking at is probably phones within the offices of the senate, direct phone numbers assigned to every single senate phone.

[knight_of_the_star]

69. Maybe its an under-the-table number

224s only show up with the Senate, it could be something someone paid for as a way to setup deals they don't want the public to be aware of. I wonder if this same number would pop up if we could somehow get ahold of the phone records of the lobbyists on K Street.

[knight_of_the_star]

30. No specifics at the modern listings

Checked on Yellowpages.com and got this on whitepages.com:

[phone] is Unpublished or Unavailable
[phone]
Type: Land Line
Provider: Verizon
Location: Washington, DC

And this on yellowbook:

[phone] is a land line based in Washington, DC
The registered service provider is Verizon**.
Detailed listing information is not available

Here is what came up in a search on Congress.org:



Your search - [phone] - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

* Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
* Try different keywords.
* Try more general keywords.
* Try fewer keywords.

Might be possible that the number is something like a dead-drop, an extra number paid for under the table contacts since there is no public listing of who it belongs to, probably out of the salary of the Senate office in question.

Hey, can anyone check to see if it goes back to before 1998, see how long this number has been in existence? If there is a definite date when it first popped up we can cross-reference it with who came into office when it was setup and get a list of suspects. I think this might be in use for more than just prostitution.

[originalpckelly]

49. I have a feeling the Senate has control of a block of phone numbers...

all starting with the 224 prefix in area code 202. I think these might be like phones inside the offices.

[wuushew]

54. What is the range between listed numbers?

I need to know how many blocks of numbers each office is allocated.

[wuushew]

79. I can't find any pattern

In the current directory, the main numbers for Brownback and Klobuchar are very different despite the fact that they are apparently right next to each other in the Senate Hart building.


http://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf

[wuushew]

92. current Senate fax numbers

again no discernible pattern to number assignment

http://www.americangeriatrics.org/portal/grassroots/senate_numbers04.pdf

[knight_of_the_star]

55. They can't block out how long the number has existed though

There has to be older listings in phone books, somewhere that shows when the number first showed up as existing.

[originalpckelly]

58. I don't think we'll find it, you assume that this was a recent number...

but I'm willing to bet the Senate has reserved the entire (202) 224 block for decades.

[knight_of_the_star]

65. I mean the specific number, not just the block

At some point we would see when they assigned the number in question to someone, just because they have a whole block setup doesn't mean the specific number has always been there. If it shows up at some point we can attempt to cross-reference everything we know of when it first shows up in records.

[Pab Sungenis]

113. Probably since area codes came into existence.

For the 202 area code, they probably assigned the shortest-pull exchanges available (223, 224) to Congress and other government agencies from the start.

The idea of short-pull was that with rotary phones you could dial those numbers more quickly. It takes about 5 seconds less to dial 224-xxxx than to dial 884-xxxx, for example.

[Oreo]

32. I found the number in the phone records

The date is 5/07/99 at 8:58pm

Not sure where he got Christmas from

[originalpckelly]

44. It might be another call.

Or he might have been intentionally distracting us.

[Oreo]

34. I just found another number...

Start your search engines

202-224-9557 at 4:12pm on 10/01/99

[originalpckelly]

41. Holy crap.

That's a second one.

[helderheid]

46. can't find it either!

[originalpckelly]

74. Just found it myself in the records I already had!

[Oreo]

43. House prefix is 202-225-xxxx

Searching now....

[Oreo]

52. Negative...

No numbers with the House's prefix in the records

[Perky]

45. Having fun?

[Oreo]

48. It'll be more fun if a DUer sinks a Repub

For those that don't have it, somebody posted a searchable pdf file with all of the phone records. That's what I'm using. Needless to say it makes it just a tad easier

[originalpckelly]

51. Where?

Can you help a fella out? :-)

[Oreo]

53. It was in a post on DU

I'd email it to you but it's 60M

Try doing a search in DU for allPhoneBills.pdf

[originalpckelly]

60. I'm in an e-mail conversation with David Corn...

he agrees that we need to lay our hands on an internal senate directory.

[Oreo]

61. Did you send him the other #?

I emailed it to him but hadn't heard back

[originalpckelly]

62. Yes, in the reply.

This is getting pretty damn interesting. Two Senate phone numbers.

We need to call someone in the senate and make friends with them and get them to help us get an internal senate directory.

[Oreo]

66. Wonkette?

They have lots of ties on the Hill.

[BurtWorm]

111. Is it possible it's the number of a committee room?

Or the former number of a committee room?

[originalpckelly]

112. That's an interesting thought.

And I have no clue in hell how to check it out. :rofl:

This is so hard, there's almost no way to find this out.

[helderheid]

64. here

http://www.humboldtcorruption.org/allPhoneBills.pdf

[Oreo]

68. Cool.. that's the one

Well worth the almost 70M download.

[originalpckelly]

70. Thanks, helderheid!

:hi:

[Ghost in the Machine]

103. I've converted a few of the records to .PDF format

http://www.congressunderfire.com/downloads/jandec00.pdf

http://www.congressunderfire.com/downloads/jandec05.pdf

http://www.congressunderfire.com/downloads/jandec04.rar <<---This one is a WinRAR file, but I think winzip will open it...

You can right click and 'save target as' to download the .pdf's or just click on them to read

PEACE!

Did you see my post about the DoJ employee I found??

[SoCalDem]

57. Wouldn't it be funny if it was Strom Thurmond's number

:rofl:

[originalpckelly]

59. Or Fred Thompson's!

:rofl:

[Oreo]

71. I just emailed the new number I found to TPM

Maybe Josh will give us some props. I told him we were digging

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

[Rosa Luxemburg]

73. Could it have been a mis-dial?

That is someone who has the 224 prefix for the Senate and the last number of his other office? Someone dialed the wrong number?

[originalpckelly]

80. No, the number is real, I called it and another one we found.

No one answered, but it rang.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

115. fax

there is a fax for Pallone but it is 225 not 224

[Progressive_In_NC]

75. At my work, when you pick up the phone it goes to a bank of numbers and chooses one

Could that be what is happening here? The Senate has a pretty darn big phone system. There may be a huge bank of phone numbers for outgoing calls and when you hit the button for a line, it chooses one at Random. The OP wasn't clear if this was an incoming or outgoing call from this number.

[Oreo]

77. Very possible

If it's inbound and it's a DID number they can figure out who it was.

As for an outbound call... not so sure.

[helderheid]

78. There has got to be a way to know who was calling through that system at that time to that number.

[originalpckelly]

81. I don't think these are outgoing from the Senate, they're to this number.

This is Debra Palfrey calling a client to confirm a reservation or something. The incoming calls say clearly that they are "incoming".

[helderheid]

83. You're RIGHT. These were CALLED numbers:

Called Nbr Minutes Charges

39 10101199 4:12 PM D WASHINGTON DC 202 224-9557 1.5 .16

[originalpckelly]

85. I wonder if she has the bills for the received calls?

[helderheid]

91. There should be a list!

[Mabus]

94. It was called more than once

I found the 12/26/1998 call was made at 5:07 p.m. It can be found in the number 10 records on the list located at: http://deborahjeanepalfrey.com/Jeane10c.html

People on this thread have pointed out the number was called on other dates. I don't think it is random.

[Mabus]

76. Yes! I caught and posted that yesterday. FYI Senate is 224 and House 225

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1293327&mesg_id=1294284

[originalpckelly]

82. WOW! I just found another: [phone]!

:rofl:

Just a little humor.

[helderheid]

84. JENNY!!

[originalpckelly]

86. Jennys been hooking it.

Poor dear, she's down on her luck.

[originalpckelly]

87. Some of the people on this list look like they were members of the frequent fucker program.

[kpete]

88. UPDATE - UPDATE - UPDATE

Another Senate Phone Number for the DC Madam
Scores of readers have written to me with ideas on how to find out who was at the other end of the phone call between the DC Madam and a number in the U.S. Senate (see item below). Several have scoured old congressional directories--so far with no luck. But now we have a second chance. Another Senate number has been dug out of the phone records of Deborah Jeane Palfrey. Here it is:

202-224-9557

For those looking for a pattern, the first number after the 224 prefix is a 9--just like the first Senate number. This call was made on October 1, 1999 at 4:12 pm. It lasted for a minute and a half. The number is now disconnected. I encourage those who have searched congressional directories for the first number to add this number to their list--and look again. Send me your results at [e-mail].

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2007/07/another_senate.php

[helderheid]

93. Totally stumped!

[caligirl]

98. I called my senators officew and was told there are no 9xxx numbers used now.

The person didn't know about a few years back.

[originalpckelly]

99. Interesting.

Very interesting.

[The Witch]

89. Our newsroom has Congressional staff directories (print) from those years.

But they're not searchable, really. I would have to sneak one home with me tonight.

If anyone has access to CQ, cqpress.com apparently has searchable directories online... don't know about the old versions tho.

[alfredo]

95. Mitch McConnell's - 202 224 2541 I hope it is on the list.

[wuushew]

96. Looks like Senate telephone numbers stay good multiple sessions

Chris Dodd has the same number for the 110th as the 108th Congress. If we can't find 1998, more recent years might also prove fruitful assuming the Republican in question did not retire.

[caligirl]

97. And the published numbers all stay at 6xxx and below EXCEPT ONE and Zell Miller has it :7272

And that was in the 106th.

any number in the 9xxx is unpublished.

[wuushew]

101. thats not true, check my post #92

9xxx numbers are published. I am guessing the one we are looking for will not be easy to find.


For instance

Cochran, Thad S R MS 001 [phone] [phone]

[caligirl]

104. But isn't that second # 9450 a fax number? I was only referring to phones other than fax numbers.

I suppose these two 9xxx (9655 and 9557) numbers could be fax numbers though. i assumed it would be a regular land line.
then were these people faxing things?

[Obamarama]

109. Haven't you ever seen a phone reciever on a fax machine???

Especially back in the 90's, almost every fax machine had a reciever. You could dial out and use just as you would a telephone, or you could answer the incoming call using the reciever, provided you knew the incoming call was voice, not a fax.

[caligirl]

110. totally forgot this. thanks.

[originalpckelly]

100. I don't think these are the same kind of numbers.

Those are that way so that people can call their senators without having to learn new numbers every couple of years.

[wuushew]

102. You're probably right

We don't have enough info yet.

[WinkyDink]

106. Let me put it this way: Bush knows them all. Guess how.

[Blackhatjack]

107. If I had to guess I would pick Newt! LOL

[originalpckelly]

108. While I wouldn't doubt he's on the list, 225 is the House prefix.

Not 224.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

114. Verizon provider, DC

white pages

[originalpckelly]

116. Yeah, it's not going to give us much of anything.

Someone with connections is going to have to come forward and help.

[slampoet]

117. Let me just compliment you all right now. and WAYBACK MACHNE

Fine work so far.

Virtual back rubs for all of ya.


Also on the edit,


this might be of help, maybe not.

The Wayback machine is an archive of webpages as they existed in the past.

it might help

he is the link.

http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html

[Buttercup McToots]

118. Can't get to the phone records...

Is it just me? Yesterday I go in but had real trouble
trying to search. My CP kept freezing...
Help?