CNN coverup ( 2000): Flynt exposed Dubya's impregnating a minor

[BornagainDUer]

then arranged an abortion.

On CNN's Crossfire on October 20, 2000, Larry Flynt exploded a bombshell: that he has evidence that George W. Bush was "involved in an abortion in Texas" in the early 1970's - when abortions were still illegal.

Here are the details, as reported by Bartcop:

In the winter of 1971 George W. Bush was dating a woman named Robin Lowman (now Robin Garner). Miss Lowman became pregnant by Smirk and he arranged for her to have an abortion - which in the great state of Texas in 1971 was very illegal! Not to mention that George W. is running as a pro-life candidate for the presidency.
The unnamed source of this story, was a friend of Robin Lowman's and the girlfriend of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is a Bush friend and supporter from way back and he made the arrangements for Miss Lowman's abortion at the Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, TX (now the Bayou City Medical Center). The source overheard the call by Mr. Chandler to arrange the abortion and the source visited Robin Lowman at the Twelve Oaks Hospital after the procedure.

The source meanwhile, is afraid of coming forward, saying that she was threatened by Chandler and another Bush friend and supporter named Jim Bath. Bath has longstanding intelligence connections, and played a role in the BCCI scandal. Robin Lowman (now Garner) is married to Jerry Lee Garner who is an FBI agent.

So, that's the story: an illegal back room abortion arranged by the Republican party Presidential candidate who is running on a pro-life ticket.

The CNN Coverup

Amazingly, CNN scrubbed its own story!!!!

This has all the markings of a cover-up by CNN - just like the cover-ups of Bush's many other scandals, from going AWOL, to using illegal drugs, to corruption in Texas government, to lying under oath.

Here is the original transcript that was published by CNN, but has now been scrubbed.

NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, never let it be said that we censor any of our guests here on CROSSFIRE, and you said you wanted to talk about the election. Tell me what you wanted to say.

FLYNT: Well, during the impeachment debacle, we did an investigation which resulted in the resignation of Bob Livingston and others and we have continued this investigation and for eight months we've been looking into George W. Bush's background. And we've found out in the early 1970s he was involved in an abortion in Texas, and I just think that it's sad that the mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all, and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue.

NOVAK: Well, you're...

FLYNT: You know, the guy admitted he was a drunk for 20 years, and if the abortion issue is true then that puts him lower on the morality scale than Bill Clinton.

NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, you said if it's true and you have no proof of that. I gather you are a very strong...

FLYNT: The hell we don't have proof.



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[seemslikeadream]

1. Yep

[Squatch]

2. !?!?!

:wow:

Holy crap I want this to be true and verifiably proven.

[Bunny]

3. Bartcop reported this years ago. Ms. Lowman refuses to corroborate the story.

And, if I'm not mistaken, her now husband is an FBI agent. The source of the original story claims she has been threatened by one of Bush's friends for revealing this incident. So, you do the math as to why there is no direct corroboration.

[npincus]

5. mybe she will when his approval hits the teens

[BornagainDUer]

6. Yep, she did marry an FBI agent. Flynt's case may have fallen

through when Lowman decided she wanted to live a little longer.

[BornagainDUer]

10. Lowman said it was James Bath, a notoriously nasty SOB, who

threatened her. That fits to well to be a concocted story.

I think Twelve Oaks Hospital, where the abortion allegedly took place, is missing records from that time period. :tinfoilhat:

[Divine Discontent]

20. that's funny! n/t

[murielm99]

22. Kitty Kelley had this in her book, too.

She tells the it the same way, minus the Bath connection.

The lady is married to an FBI agent and refuses to confirm the story.

She and her husband may be right-wingers who do not want to harm *. I mean, if she would have sex with *...yuck!

I would not put it past them to threaten her.

[BornagainDUer]

57. "The Family". Kelley was booted from her job at the Washingtonian

a short time after her book came out.

[Kikosexy2]

37. I'm sure ...

Georgie's closet is loaded with secrets...a coked-up, drunken frat boy who always totally fucks up everything in his path...would you expect his past to be Beaver Cleaver clean?....

[Usrename]

4. !!!

:wow:

[SoCalDem]

7. Unless truth serum is legal, and they are forced to testify, there is no there ..there

Heresay "evidence" won;t work against these slimy characters. They cover their bases well, and surely pay off handsomely..and failing that, there are always threats..

People move on with their lives and probably don;t want to dredge up old stuff that hurts them personally..no matter how much it might have saved the country.

[BornagainDUer]

11. I sure would like to see the records of Twelve Oaks for that period.

[SoCalDem]

12. I'd bet anything they are long gone.. and anyway

since abortion was illegal, the procudure would have been called something else.. I seem to remember that a lot of women back then had D&Cs for "irregular periods".:eyes:

D&Cs are not heard of that much anymore..

[Richard Steele]

23. Yup. Those records went into the same incinerator as his & Pickles' original DMV files.

Complete "do-over"; all original records completely scrubbed
and new licenses issued with shiny new DMV ID numbers.

Unprecedented, unheard of, and unparalleled...just like so many other
maneuvers necessary to make this sociopathic shithead maintain
a veneer of normality palatable to the masses.

[japple]

32. ...and he found Jesus and all his sins were washed away...n/t

[MsLeopard]

30. Hilarious Picture!!

I love your sig line pictures SoCalDem, and that you change them often. Thanks for being so creative and sharing your humor with us.
:rofl:

[SoCalDem]

39. You are very welcome.. I'm not creative, though.. I just have a keen eye

and a warped sense of humor.. I "scour the internets" for funny pics and and happy to share them with you guys :loveya:

[druidity33]

8. didn't Shrub do some

"Training" in that area? Y'know, during that missing year or so that the Nat'l Guard couldn't find him... the one where he didn't "show up for practice"?

:shrug:

[bdamomma]

9. oh, this is not new news I have heard about this a while ago.

[MindPilot]

13. James Bath?

Wasn't he a prominent figure in the BCCI/S&L scandal?

[Mabus]

45. Don't forget that Bath was with Bush when they were supposed to be in the TANG

Saturday, February 21, 2004
Look Back in ANGR: Part 1, Redux

***

Why James Bath's name was deleted from the set of documents released in 2004 (Page 10/19) , but not from those released in 2000.

Some have argued that this was simply the slip of the pen of an over-zealous White House aide, who, bleary-eyed from redacting, accidentally blacked out James Bath's name from the form. This is possible, and Occam's Razor would require us to consider this quite carefully. Let's examine what we know for sure...

*Bush and Bath were friends. "Drinking buddies" is the quote I recall.
*Bath supposedly became CIA after his National Guard days, at the request of George Sr.
*Bath was involved, allegedly, in financing Arbusto (George W.) with a $50,000 Saudi infusion of cash.
*Bath had ties to the infamous BCCI scandal.
*Bath had ties to the BinLaden family (yes, that Bin Laden family)
*Bush, confronted by Bath's name after 9/11, initially denied even knowing who Bath was, and then (ahem) clarified his statement. (Interesting reaction to an old Drinking Buddy's name, eh? Instant denial of any knowledge.)
http://codename-monkey.blogspot.com/

[BornagainDUer]

56. "CIA takes a Bath" is a chapter in Peter Brewton's book:

"The CIA, Mafia and George Bush".

[Sweet Freedom]

14. and if I remember correctly

shortly after this story broke, Robin was miraculously able to finance the opening of her own business, even though she had been broke.

[Canuckistanian]

15. I remember this from a few years ago

Amazing how deeply it's descended into the Memory Hole.

I'd love to see Lowman/Gardner come out with this story now.

[the other one]

16. Jim Bath was named on Bush's service record

as the other man besides Bush who went missing from the required medical exam which (presumably) included a drug test. He was also the Bin Laden's money manager in Texas, who funneled Saudi money into GWB's failed businesses in exchange for access to the president. Michael Moore covers him in Fahrenheit 911.

[leveymg]

44. James Bath was bin Laden's business agent in Houston

Bin Laden's older brother, Salem, purchased the Houston Gulf Airport (as distinct from, G.H.W. Bush Int'l Airport), and Bath was Salem's business agent in that deal. The bin Ladens also invested money with Khalid bin Mahfouz, another Yemeni billionaire, through Bath in Dubya's failing oil business. Bath was made a Director of BCCI, a Saudi intelligence-CIA proprietary joint-venture that financed the Pakistani nuclear program and al-Qaeda, among other programs.

Bath was part-owner of an aviation company that had links with CIA.

Jim knows some of Dubya's real secrets, as does Saudi intelligence and the bin Ladens. Lots of blackmail potential here, all around. This in Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Bath

James Reynolds Bath (1937 - ) was a former director of Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), and part owner of Arbusto Energy with George W. Bush, with whom Bath served as a member of the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War. Like Bush, Bath was suspended from flying status in 1972 for failing to accomplish his annual medical examination.

Bath got his start in real estate in 1973 by forming a partnership with Lloyd Bentsen's son, Lan, in Bath Bentsen Interests.

It has been reported that, in 1976, George H. W. Bush recruited Bath into the CIA, a claim that Bath denied in 1991 in an article published in Time magazine.

In 1976 Bath purchased the Houston Gulf Airport on behalf of Salem bin Laden, a Saudi sheik (and Osama bin Laden's older half-brother.) That year, Bath became the bin Laden family's representative in North America<1>. In 1990, a Saudi banker named Khalid bin Mahfouz procured a loan of $1.4 million for Bath, allowing him to buy a stake in the airport. When Salem bin Laden died in 1988, his interest in the airfield passed to Mahfouz.

In 1978, Bath became a Director of the Main Bank, based in Houston, Texas. His fellow investors were John Connally; Saudi financier Ghaith Pharaon; and Mahfouz. Also at this time, he founded JB&A Aviation, a corporate aviation brokerage firm, along with fellow businessmen Johnson Taylor and Jerry Smith.

In 1980, Bath was named company president of Cotopax Investments, registered in the Cayman Islands. The name was changed to Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd. The company board then resigned en masse, leaving Bath as a sole director. The company acted as a supplier of large passenger and air cargo jets. At one point, it leased a $10 million Gulfstream II jet to the Abu Dhabi National Oil Corporation, which was controlled by Sheikh Zayed, the late first president of the United Arab Emirates. Bath's partners in Skyway and his other companies are unknown.

Bath founded Southwest Airport Services to manage the Houston Gulf Airport, and to provide military fueling services at Ellington Field. He also served as president of the Skyway Aircraft Leasing company.

Bath's discharge from the National Guard and his relationships to the bin Laden family, the Bush family, and Arbusto were among the issues explored in Michael Moore's 2004 documentary film Fahrenheit 9/11, as well as his book Dude, Where's My Country? (released the same year.) Artist Mark Lombardi illustrated associations between Bath, the Bush family, the bin Laden family, and BCCI in drawings put on display in 2000 and now available in a book.<2>

[BornagainDUer]

49. Dupont family in this too. I think they own or control one of these

aircraft maintenance or leasing companies. That is another family of vipers. They were key plotters in the attempt to overthrow FDR.

Now how did the Baath party get started. :bounce:

[indepat]

17. Even if true, these would only have been youthful indiscretions for which a now-holy person

of the right political persuasion is excused.

[BornagainDUer]

50. LOL. "Youthful indiscretion" I forgot all about that one by "Livingston I presume"?

[flyarm]

18. i remember posting about this soooo many years ago..it was ignored by most

and called tin folil by others..just another conspiracy theory ..dontcha know!!..look over there..no there>>>>>>>>>no there<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

why would anyone believe *hy would be involved in a "real " conspiracy?????????????????????

fly:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Divine Discontent]

19. K&R

amazing...

that next to last comment by Flynt about Clinton/GW B*sh morality says it ALL!

amazing... they feared the story was so damning (and the corporate masters said so) that Gore would have won 65-35 if this was heavily discussed and asked of shrub...

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<--- top '08 items & antib*sh stickers!

[Beartracks]

24. A very large number of Bush supporters...

A very large number of Bush supporters would simply:

a) refuse to believe something like this about that very nice man George Bush;
b) assume that it's some lie cooked up by jealous Democrats; or...
c) decide that it's Bill Clinton's fault.

They would opt for any or all of the above responses (consciously, or perhaps worse - subconsciously) before they would ever consider that such a story could be true. Basically, if some fact doesn't fit their pre-conceived notion of the truth (or their pre-conceived notion of "the way things ought to be"), then that fact is disregarded/discarded.

I can't rightly say that such a phenomenon is strictly a Republican one (it's not), but it IS something that I think is far more developed in conservatives than it is in liberals, plus it also appears to inform their philosophical approach to policy-making (e.g. WMD's, anyone?).

[Hepburn]

21. I have heard the Lowman story for years...

...and Flynt has never put out the proof. I am hoping that this time he nails that SOB in the WH on this.

[Connonym]

25. Flynt was offering a bounty on proof of stories like this

1 million or some such for proof. Crazy man but I sort of love him for his attitude.

[Totally Committed]

26. So, can we just get her to cop to giving him a BJ?

We MIGHT be able to get him impeached for that! :sarcasm:

TC

[OneGrassRoot]

27. What happened with his press conference scheduled for yesterday? n/t

[Dinger]

28. I Wish Larry Would Investigate Margie Schoedinger Story

Raped & murdered by * & S.S. men after impregnating her. Dated her when she was 17, murdered her in September 2003, at the age of 38, shortly after she brought a sexual harrassment lawsuit against him.

[BornagainDUer]

51. Yep, All of this needs to be brought up repeatedly.

[Dinger]

54. One More Thing, . . . . Margie Was An African American Woman (nt)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. Didn't Flynt claim that he was going to write a book about Shrub and put it out before the 2004

election?

[cureautismnow]

33. It came out in the summer of '04...

...and was mostly ignored by the msm.

"In his new book, Sex, Lies & Politics: The Naked Truth (Kensington, $24), Flynt discusses government, privacy, the failings of the Bush administration and the erosion of personal freedom. The hardcover publication just entered the New York Times best-seller list at No. 33."

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/29/loc_flynt29.html

[BornagainDUer]

46. The last guy that wrote about Bush, that time before 2000, is

no longer among the living. His name is JH Hatfield; the book is "Fortunate Son" and it was pulled from bookshelves after its publisher St Martin's Press was threatened by the Bushistas. It went back on the bookshelves after Dubya stole the 2000 election. Hatfield was suicided (late July 2001) after he wrote an article in July 2001 talking about "remote controlled planes being flown into buildings". His death was labeled a suicide.

[spanone]

31. Michael Moore is all the more right. Complicity in war........

[paparush]

34. Where are the Swift-Abortion Veterans for Truth?

[lpbk2713]

35. What was the tradeoff for CNN to kill the story?

And was Ted Turner involved at the time?

We may never know.

[redqueen]

36. "The hell we don't have proof"

:lol:

*sigh*

and still the dummys chant 'liberal media! liberal media!'

ugh

[SemperEadem]

38. Republican party--the party of child molesters, adulterers, liars and criminal

no wonder God loves them so much. I'm shocked that that nut case in Kansas isn't picketing outside their offices in DC every gotdamn day.

[DutchLiberal]

40. Just like they never ask about Laura Bush...

"and I just think that it's sad that the mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all, and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue."

Just like they never ask about the mysterious circumstances under which Laura Bush's ex-boyfriend died when she 'accidentally' ran over him with her car.

"FLYNT: You know, the guy admitted he was a drunk for 20 years, and if the abortion issue is true then that puts him lower on the morality scale than Bill Clinton."

Even if he wasn't a drunk and a coke-addict and did the abortion... even THEN he would be at the bottom of the morality scale. But the thing is, Bush 'found Christ'. And if you have 'found Christ', it doesn't matter anymore what you've done in the past or what crimes you're committing now. Because you're a 'good Christian', right?

[HowHasItComeToThis]

41. BUT, media loves republicans theives

[Right Hawk]

42. gwb/larry flint

Bullshit

[BornagainDUer]

52. Not on the Vitter story.

[JFN1]

43. Ask CNN!

I just wrote this to CNN - I encourage others to do something similar:

I understand CNN has scrubbed a story from its archives which appears to cover up a story about President Bush and an illegal abortion in the 1970's. Here is a link to the story I read today: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1304922

Please address the following questions:

1- Why has CNN scrubbed this story from its archives?
2- Why has CNN covered up this story instead of investigating it? Larry Flynt has proved a reliable source in the past.
3- Given the recent ruckus with Michael Moore and his demonstration of CNN's lies and fact-twisting, how does CNN expect to be taken seriously as a 'news' outlet, if it is forever protecting the powerful and hiding the uncomfortable?

Thank you for your response.

[BornagainDUer]

47. Welcome to DU. That's an excellent idea. It's important

to remember that Bushbuddy Robert Novak (Plamegate fame) was the one that talked to Flynt. It seems almost certain that Novak is behind the coverup.

[Marr]

48. Can you even imagine leading a life of such hypocrisy?

Pro-war chickenhawk.

Involved in an abortion for convenience's sake when abortion was illegal, but against legal abortions for women who need them.

Anti-Affirmative Action, but the biggest legacy beneficiary since Edward II.

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Yeah, I remember watching Crossfire when Flynt was the guest.

They tried to cover it up right away because later that day the transcripts were scrubbed. We talked about it for a while when I was on the CNN discussion boards. I was really surprised at Bill Press for participating in the coverup.

Read more about it here:

http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bush-abortion.html

[yurbud]

55. kick