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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:54 PM
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Talk of deal for LA Dem governor to appoint a GOPer in event Vitter resigns!
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 11:55 PM by Robbien
Some top Republicans are discussing whether to ask U.S. Sen. David Vitter to resign and packaging a deal with Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco to appoint a place-holding Republican to take his place.

. . .

“There are some senior Republicans who are seriously discussing the matter. Currently, however, the leadership of the Republican Party has not made a comment on it, nor given any encouragement or discouragement to the effort,” Tidmore said. “There are a lot of people talking about this,” Tidmore said.

State Republican Party Chairman Roger Villere said he’s been unable to talk to Vitter, who has remained in seclusion since the scandal broke Monday night. But Villere said he doubts Vitter would quit.

. . .

But no one was talking to Blanco about the possibility, the governor said Wednesday night. “It is premature,” Blanco said Wednesday night. “We have to wait to see what Sen. Vitter is actually planning to do.”

http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS01/70711046/1002


Why would a Democratic governor appoint a GOPer Senator in exchange for a promise to get Vitter's resignation? Sounds like a very lousy deal for Blanco, how does it benefit her? Blanco was torn apart by GOPers over Katrina. Why the heck would she get into bed with this devil and go against her own party.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:56 PM
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1. Vitter resigning in disgrace benefits Dems, but very little. It certainly doesnt seem like it
would merit such a big concession.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:44 AM
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30. More than you think
If Vitter is replaced by a dem, then Holy Joe's constant threats to switch sides lose all their power. The repugs have been using that threat to get concessions from Reid and other dem leaders since they lost congress.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:56 AM
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37. will she do it, appoint a dem
sometimes I wonder about her
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:12 PM
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41. The concession we were talking about was appointing a REPUB, so that would void your point.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:57 PM
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2. After the death of a GOP member
the Dem governor also appointed a puggie

Depends on each state and the rules in the state.

Also the pubgs will do all they can to keep that seat... and I mean everything
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:59 PM
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6. Louisiana has no such rule. Blanco can appoint who she likes
Ergo the talk about a deal.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:20 AM
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24. then she should appoint a dem
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:53 AM
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36. To be honest, the replacement really should be of the same party
I know each state has their own rules regarding this type of matter and it's up to them to decide how to replace someone who leaves before their term is completed.

On the other hand, the people voted in someone from a specific party because they felt that person's/party's stands were more beneficial to their needs/wants. By putting in someone from the opposite party it does seem that you're basically just doing a big "F You" to the voters.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:57 PM
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3. How do you think the Busheviks would behave if the situation was reversed
Sure they'd appoint a Dem Senator.

And I am the King of Siam.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:57 PM
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5. Fox and the rest would be going on and on and on
24\7 until the resignation happened, you forgot that part
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:57 PM
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4. Agreed.
If Blanco isn't free to replace him with a Dem upon his resignation, he should stay in office and stew in his own juices ...
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:01 AM
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8. The rules state she can replace him with whomever she chooses
Which again begs the question, why make a deal such as this?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:07 AM
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13. Sorry, I wasn't very clear ...
I meant "free to replace him with a Dem" as meaning free from any 'deals' with the Repubs in exchange for Vitter's resignation.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:16 AM
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21. Okay
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 12:16 AM by Robbien
You are right about then letting Vitter stew. Another LA article said that Guilliani's choice for VP was going to be Vitter. Ha! Vitter has a lot to stew about.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:26 PM
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48. No 'deals'
Now is the time for Blanco to decide who she sides with.

She's put up with a Hell of a lot of undeserved criticism from the Right Wing about Katrina.

This is her chance to prove she's part of the MAJORITY of Americans who oppose GOP tactics.

I'm beginning to think that LA is just a swamp of GOP patronage, some of which is disguised as Democratic politics.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:46 AM
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31. Because . . .
It stops any chance of the repugs gaining any more Joementum in the senate.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:00 AM
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7. Vitter should stay in office unless a DEMOCRAT replaces him.
Or until another Republican senator is caught with their pants down.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:01 AM
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9. Her state is still in desperate need of support from this administration.
Katrina to most everyone in the world, including many on this board, was so 2 years ago, but for many of us living in Katrina limbo, cooperation with the government is essential.

There are grants and disbursements, matching funds and support from FEMA that is still urgently needed in her state.

She has to do what is right for her state, that is paramount. The party has to come second, the destruction 2 years later is still all around the citizens of NOLA and her surrounding communities, the state's coffers need the help.

Of course, this is merely opinion, but it is opinion based in reality. Thousands still live in Katrina hell.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:04 AM
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10. True, but Dems are in favor of Katrina support
GOPers are the ones who are arguing to keep it out. Dems put in it to the last Iraq Timetable bill and GOPers screamed about it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:06 AM
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12. Negotiations may well involve repubs changing their position
and guaranteeing the passage of the legislation. Not to mention, those agencies in charge of the disbursement are controlled by the administration.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:10 AM
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16. Forgot about all the government agencies being full of GOPers
Now that is an argument which has legs.

If she cuts a deal, she better get the promises in writing. In triplicate. Signed in blood. GOPers are famous for not keeping promises, especially to Democrats.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:11 AM
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17. Democrats don't care anymore about that than the GOP

peddle that lie somewhere else. None of them care about New Orleans or Louisiana. What a joke.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:05 AM
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11. Dems control the Congress
and, indeed, appointing a Dem will only further solidify that control. What are the Republicans going to do? Filibuster Katrina aid?

They have no hand. She should appoint a moderate Dem and call it spoils. Finis.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:19 AM
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23. The administration controls the agencies that disburse the monies
For all those on the outside, it seems easy enough.

But for those living the unending nightmare, the only thing easy is part of the nickname of the city trying stay alive.

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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:13 PM
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45. Can't make a deal with the devil
You will always lose. We can't trust rethugs to hold up the end of their deal. They lie, cheat, steal, and murder. It doesn't matter what deal we offer they will break it. The only option we have left is to fight them at every turn. If the Governor doesn't appoint a Dem when she has the opportunity she needs to be booted from the party. Harsh, but this is a political war for the very soul of our country. On the other hand she needs to be promised whatever she needs from fellow dems to help her pull it off. One for all and all for one should be our party's motto. Solidifying control of the Senate and marginalizing Lieberman will end the war more quickly and this frees up TWO BILLION DOLLARS PER DAY! This money would solve Katrina, Health Care, Education, EVERYTHING.

We don't beg for crumbs, we need to demand the whole freakin' pie!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:08 AM
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15. Get more Democrats to help you
Seems like a no-brainer to me. This administration is sunk. They're no threat. The only threat is too many Republicans in the Senate. Blanco needs to just stand right up and say so.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:15 AM
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20. I hope Kathleen knows that any deal with a pug is a bad deal.
They will never honor a promise to a dem governor. I am very sorry that she is not going to run. It was hard to get her in that seat; though I do understand why she's sick of the duplicity and her inability to get this administration to give NOLA the help she so desperately needs.
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Trekologer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:50 AM
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33. If any such deal...
If any such "deal" is a GOP replacement for Katrina aid, the governor should go public with what the republican leadership is trying to do. Get the media to ask the hard questions such as why does aid hinge on a GOP crony being appointed and why isn't the aid there NOW?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:42 AM
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35. The media hasn't paid attention to it, its been going on for 2 years
she has complained

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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:01 PM
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38. Which they are NEVER going to give
these evil fucks could care less about Katrina victims.
If anything, theyre high fiving for their mission accomplished.


She has tried to do whats right for her state and was shit on up and down.


I dont know how i will ever explain to my kids that we cant live home anymore because the city was drowned and NO ONE even lost their job over it. They should all be impeached.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:03 PM
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39. Blanco can use that argument to put John Breaux back in the Senate
there is no other LA pol who has Breaux's rep. If she went public with that intent there would be considerable GOP carping but the one thing they wouldn't have is a name that in any way compares with Breaux.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:07 AM
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14. Wouldn't it be poetic justice if a New Orleans brothel enabled us to get a Katrina investigation
Daring to dream
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:11 AM
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18. If the Republicans get mad if she appointed a Democrat, they should be mad at their own guy, for
being such a knucklehead and putting them in this position.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:12 AM
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19. a place-holding DEMOCRAT, maybe
:rofl:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:25 AM
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26. What's a place-holding DEMOCRAT?
I believe Vitter, with the help of pugs in high office, stole this election from Chris Johns? My memory plays tricks on me sometime. So, if she gets the chance, I hope she appoints Chris.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:31 AM
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28. Whomever is appointed would just be a place holder
LA would hold a special election to replace Vitter. The election would be held some time next spring/summer.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:18 AM
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22. Since Vitter was probably being Blackmailed in order to keep quiet on Katrina ......
....appointing a GOPer is pissing on the graves of the people dead because of it.


My girlfriend and her mother (both born in NOLA) knew about Vitter just from the grapevine, they say before this all broke.

When i mentioned that a Louisiana senator had just been nailed,

my girl's first reaction was "Oh was it Vitter? I heard he referred to Katrina victims as 'Drowning Coons'. he's a scumball. People have know about him and his hooker since he first was elected."

Now, this is all unsubstantiated of course and I can't vouch for anything.

But if the Grapevine knew this then the CIA wiretapping division MUST HAVE.


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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:28 AM
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27. Geeze
I wondered why they left Blanco out on a limb by herself with not one word of support for her or his people from Vitter.

To think this man was in the running to be a GOP VP candidate. Macaca Allen all over again.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:23 AM
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25. This talk has nothing to do with Vitter! It has to do with Dave Treen and Bobby Jindal
The state central committee of the Republican party in Louisiana is made up of people who got into politics from David Duke. They do not want Bobby Jindal to become governor, however they do not want a Democrat to win either. Treen is not who they want politically but he's white and a Republican. This talk is to get his name back in front of everyone as a mainstream guy that everyone likes. And personally everyone does like him, he's a nice guy. Their hope is racist sentiment against Jindal will cause white Democrats to join in stopping Jindal. They know that Blanco will have good things to say about Treen and believe it can be the start of preventing Bobby from becoming governor.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:06 AM
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29. IMO no deal will be necessary. Jay Leno already has started cracking jokes about
Vitter. They weren't very good jokes, but in a week or two they may be good enough by themselves to put unbearable pressure of Vitter to quit and enter "rehab", let alone all the other attention he'll be getting from "Christians" who voted for him If there's one thing Republicans can't stonewall very long, it's being the butt of merciless humor in the mass media.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:49 AM
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32. Reports of Vitter tuning Bitter and hiding in a 3 x 6 spidey hole are surfacing
Friggen wimp of a PUB....what a loser....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:06 AM
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34. Hit 'er in the shitter like Dave Vitter did 'er?
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 07:07 AM by Hubert Flottz
I think Vitter is a Bitter Quitter and no Heavy Hitter! The GOP "DEPENDS" on their Filth Based Flockers believing in their holy horseshit "Morality" stories...they lose "MORALITY" and they have lost another major bogus repub building block, that they've had to campaign on all these years.

The can't boast about..."Tax and Spend"..."Stopping Big Government"..."Honesty and Dignitude back to Washington"..."Conservatism"..."State's Rights" and now "MORALITY"...they're toast
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 01:25 PM
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40. Its gone Beyond Toast....the GOP has revealed themselves to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors
Pathetic Losers who use Fool to Rule to stay in Bidness...

Now, one by one, they stray from the Nest of Crap to make themselves clean again...but too friggen LATE.

The GOP has given too much Power to the Biggest Loser of them all...and they are paying the price...that of witch they they balk at..

Crazyt as it seems...they think they can FOOL again....

Look at those examples of heepoccrasee they keep giving us...they are worse than SCUM....using Deciet to FOOL is the trademark of SCAMMERS

Bush is an arrogant asshole...much like the GOP who put him there...Now they DON'T want to pay?? Gimme a break

Come, we go bathe in clean water to cleanse ourselves...Just talking about them makes feel DIRTee...
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:15 PM
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42. Fuck.that.noise. let vitter swing in the breeze.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:21 PM
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43. NO DEAL! You know damn well the Repubs would NEVER appoint a Dem
they would jump at the chance to replace a Dem with a Repub. Dems better not take that deal. He's going to have to resign regardless, don't you think?

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:36 PM
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44. No, do it. Appoint Bobby Jindal.
That takes him out of the governor's race and gives us a chance to win there once again.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:15 PM
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46. What, you want Lieberman holding us by the balls?
Put Chris John or somebody in there.

The Republicans will take Jindal out on their own.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:18 PM
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47. She should say "I agree." He resigns. The she appoints a Democrat anyway.
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 05:18 PM by SoonerPride
Fuck 'em.
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