*** Official House Judiciary Miers Didn't Show *** Thread 2

[MiniMe]

Thread 1 here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1312544&mesg_id=1312544

cspan3 link http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[helderheid]

1. k & R and here is thread 1 for those who missed it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1312544&mesg_id=1312544

[malaise]

2. What about the violation of the subpoena

does Cooper not understand?

[WinkyDink]

Oh, he's just the water-boy! He understands everything!

[MiniMe]

6. Thanks Helderheid

I went back and edited for the original info

[helderheid]

3. kick

[blondeatlast]

4. Conyers filed a motion to charge Miers with contempt last I read--am I correct? nt

[goclark]

8. We live in a dictatorship ~ nothing that is right matters now nt

[MiniMe]

9. I don't think so, he seconded a motion that it was not acceptable for her not to show

but it can be hard to follow

[blondeatlast]

12. Ah--okay. I'd call that setting the stage for something though. thanks for the clarification. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

5. Also available to viewed at the Committee's website

http://judiciary.house.gov/

[helderheid]

7. thanks!

[whistle]

10. Cannon wants the evidence....what a shit-head he wants the discussion

....that the White House offered, Meyers would meet with selected committee members behind closed doors, not under oath without transcript....

[whistle]

18. Cannon just made a point, but he was stopped by his attorneys

...he screwed up about something not clear what he is befuddled by his own comments

[MiniMe]

11. Cannon sounds a little more reasonable after Sanchez's excellent speech

I was actually impressed with what he had to say.

[jojo54]

16. IMO he sounds scared. eom

[WinkyDink]

21. He's a bit more deferential now, is he not?!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Cannon interrupted in his diatribe by Conyers. Conyers wants to make this simple

point that they can't produce the evidence of misconduct if the witness doesn't show up. The take it or leave it offer they (WH)offered was unacceptable that no HS student would accept! There is no clear Constitutional prerogative of the WH.

[helderheid]

14. Good GOD Cannon is DENSE.

[WinkyDink]

19. "What is it we're talking about here? Immunity? What?" What a MORAN.

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. No, he's acting chisel for the hour

A colleague will be stepping in as the screwdriver shortly.

[Debau2005]

25. Can he beat this dead horse a little longer?

I think Ms Sanchez is getting a tad annoyed! haha

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. And as nervous as all heck! eom

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. So now Cannon is "worried about the diminishment of our power"???

Gee, do ya think the courts are stacked or something Rep. Cannon?

[wordpix]

137. he means diminishment of repukes' power, no doubt

[helderheid]

17. God I can feel the tension through the internets!

[blondeatlast]

23. Isn't that something? Me too--I think this is almost beeter than watching it;

waiting for the mext little tidbit.

:rofl:

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. Absolutely!!!

[MiniMe]

22. The motion has been made to reject Miers claim of immunity and executive priviledge

as a reason for her not to show. Cannon is being an ass about it again.

[jojo54]

24. YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!

[MiniMe]

27. Sanchez getting pissed at Cannon

[Norquist Nemesis]

36. "Does that clarify it for you?"

umm duhhh ummm...

:rofl:

[wordpix]

138. bwahahahaha

[helderheid]

29. I think this is the tipping point. I know that has been said before, but I feel it.

[Marnieworld]

133. It's definitely a line in the sand moment

This is definitely a riveting point in history if you are paying attention. :hi:

[Forkboy]

30. "What we got here is an empty chair!"

Cohen is pissed.

[halobeam]

As he represents the anger of the citizens of this country.

[blondeatlast]

40. Please let a photo of that empty chair be the front page of every rag tomorrow!

I can dream, can't I? (sigh)

[whistle]

31. Cannon is totally perplexed by the contempt motion

....and not asked for time to gather his thoughts....I think he'll need about a year or so to do that....:rofl:

[benld74]

32. I HATE introductory soliloquey's, GET to the point to what you want to say

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

33. Cohen! The Emperor cannot tell citizens to flaunt the law!!!! Go Cohen!!!!

:bounce:

[helderheid]

34. The President, or the EMPEROR

[Debau2005]

35. I LOVE MR COHEN!

The Emperor has no clothes...haha

[Norquist Nemesis]

"This is as contemptuous as you can be...and you don't just show up!"

Nixon Part Two!

[jojo54]

37. This guy Cohen is telling it like it is!!!

This is going to go somewhere folks!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. He rocks!!!!! eom

[tridim]

59. Yep, they're committed now..

You don't call the President "The Emperor" and then fold.

[WinkyDink]

38. MEANWHILE: Bush just said that Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah are ALL helping Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

And that we MUST stay there, or our frinds and allies will be upset with us.

[Libby2]

39. bwahahahah Emperor!!

Kick ass

[Hepburn]

41. Wow.............Cohen!

Great statement! :applause:

[IChing]

46. Great speech, the emperor has no clothes.

[G_Leo_Criley]

42. LOL this is a gary trudeau cartoon without the feather! cohen

[whistle]

Steve Cohen D-TN refers to Bush as the emperor and the feather

[benld74]

44. GAry Trudeu live, all we ar missing is the feather what a hoot

[MiniMe]

45. Did he just mention Harriet Woods??

:rofl:

That's Rosemary Woods and Harriet Miers.

[blondeatlast]

47. Did he really? OMG--that's hysterical. Please tell me it's true! nt

[MiniMe]

I'm pretty sure that is what I heard

I was looking for anybody else that heard it too. I didn't make it up.

[Norquist Nemesis]

51. He did...called it Nixon Part Two

(even though her name was Rosemary)

[blondeatlast]

62. Thanks--that is classic! I even remember the Woods "stretch..."

Eeek, showing my age.

[EVDebs]

128. ...and this is the Huston Plan, Part II for anyone who followed Watergate

Right, Agent Mike ?

Huston Plan, reorganize intell and establish martial law in the US. Started by Thomas Huston immediately prior to Watergate but supposedly shot down by Hoover and Helms opposition...

[wordpix]

139. LOL! Harriet Woods, great line!

[Norquist Nemesis]

48. Oh Lord...now Keller

EP is equal to husband/wife privilege? WTF????????????

[helderheid]

49. They have to know their argument holds no water.

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. "Do you want to have a bunch of yes-men around the President"

Ummm, Mr. Keller might want to do a reality check on what's there at this very moment.

[Debau2005]

53. Why is he reading his statements?

Can't keep it straight in his head?

[deminks]

58. Kkkarl and freddy just gave them to him. He hasn't seen them before.

My guess.

[Norquist Nemesis]

Political points?

*wink*

[blondeatlast]

55. Well, he has been effing the country but a lot of us don't recognize the marriage. nt

[Greylyn58]

63. This Ass-Hat is unbelievable

A-Number 1 Kool-Aid drinker or just so stupid he needs to have his ass kicked all over DC.

Or maybe just both.

[benld74]

50. * is ALREADY surrounded by YES men THAT IS THE PROBLEM

[WinkyDink]

52. Mr. Keller is another moran. Ms. Sanchez just CITED PRECEDENT after PRECEDENT on EP!!

[Hepburn]

54. Keller: You are LEGALLY full of shit!

Husband-wife, attorney-client privileges, etc., are set out specifically in the codes and statutes. Executive privilege is NOT. Go fuck yourself, Keller, if you think you are some legal scholar. Your argument, to say the least, sucks.

[derby378]

56. Omertá, omertá

An excerpt from an old 'Ndrangheta (Calabrian Mafia) tune - first in the original Calabrian dialect of Italian, then in English:

L' omertá é cumandamentu
Esti leggi saggia e giusta
Cu prestau lu giuramentu
Lu sgarrari assai ci custa

Occhiu tengu ma nun viu
Sugnu surdu e puru mutu
Sacciu i reguli di Diu
Ma restu sempri nu tambutu

Omertá, omertá
Chista é leggi societá
Leggi chi non perduna
A cu faci infamitá

Secrecy is a commandment
It's a law that's just and wise
Whosoever breaks his oath
He must pay - he knows the price

I have eyes, but I see nothing
I am deaf and mute as well
For I know the laws of God
And always keep them to myself

Code of silence, code of silence
It's the law of our society
A law that does not forgive
Those who break their secrecy

[MiniMe]

60. Why do all of the republicans look constipated?

And the dems look like they have had their fiber today? Off topic, but damn.

[Beelzebud]

Because they're full of shit.

[deminks]

68. The repugs have been having gut feelings all week.

[whistle]

69. Freudian concept of anal retentiveness, to republicans shit is money

...so they hold onto it as long as they can!!!

[whistle]

61. Rick Keller R-FL executive privilege = husband + wife privilege

...what an embarrassment this guy is, he suggests that executive privilege eliminates presidential YES-Men :spray: :rofl:

[Norquist Nemesis]

67. Guess that Harriet and GW were married afterall!

:rofl:

[whistle]

71. that crossed my mind when Keller said it

[IChing]

70. " We will stop mowing the lawn"

If Iraq Keeps Shooting Us, We'll Stop Mowing Their Lawn: Great Moments in House Rhetoric



Florida Republican Ric Keller, speaking in favor of the Democratic Iraq withdrawal plan:

Let me give you an analogy. Imagine your next door neighbor refuses to mow his lawn and the weeds are all the way up to his waist. You decide you’re going to mow his lawn for him every single week. The neighbor never says thank you. He hates you and sometimes he takes out a gun and shoots at you.

Under these circumstances, do you keep mowing his lawn forever? Do you send even more of your family members over to mow his lawn? Or do you say to that neighbor, ‘You better step it up and mow your own lawn or there’s going to be serious consequences for you’?
We know they have “shoot first” laws out there in Florida, but this analogy still seems like a bit of a reach to us. Hell, Iraq’s a desert — how much maintenance could their lawn even need?

http://wonkette.com/politics/ric-keller/if-iraq-keeps-shooting-us-well-stop-mowing-their-lawn-great-moments-in-house-rhetoric-236773.php

[benld74]

64. How much gel does Keller put on his hair? Damn

[halobeam]

65. Keller says, the courts will decide if exe. priv applies

[whistle]

80. The court would have to rule not on executive privilege but whether or not

...the White House engaged in abuse of power and or criminal intent and that will be shown if they can get Meyers to testify under oath and in public

[RufusTFirefly]

66. Idiot Keller keeps citing Nixon as his precedent

Apparently he doesn't get it.

[MiniMe]

72. Well, I agree. But he is using the wrong one

Nixon also asserted that when the President did something, it wasn't illegal. He got shot down on that. He was required to turn over the tapes.

[RufusTFirefly]

Interesting Hank Johnson trivia

I always like Johnson's contributions and was curious about his biography. He is a practicing Buddhist.

[MiniMe]

81. Would somebody tell these idiots that * fired 100% of the USA's also

Nobody questioned that, nor would they at this point. They wouldn't have questioned these firings if Gonzo wasn't such an ass.

[WinkyDink]

73. Mr. Johnson laying it out clearly, supporting Conyers.

"Disrespect for the law" from a "Supreme Court nominee"!

[helderheid]

74. OH MY GOD SHUT THESE IDIOT REPUBLICANS UP!

[WinkyDink]

77. It's always about Clinton. Never about Jimmy Carter, poor guy! :)

[Epiphany4z]

86. B...B..but Clinton

Clinton did what every pres does at the beginning of his term...not mid way....and not just attorneys that would not investigate repubs...uggg

[Epiphany4z]

99. Mr. Shampoo

rinse repeat rinse repeat....lie repeat lie repeat

[A wise Man]

75. Guess we know where the rethugs stand

protect the party right or wrong and fuck the country and its so-called constitutional law.

[Norquist Nemesis]

76. Notice how all the Cons are "moving to strike the last word"

Gives them extra time to say "Clinton did it"

[Debau2005]

84. They must be truly flustered

They haven't blamed it on Clinton's penis yet! That excuse must have slipped their mind.

[blondeatlast]

101. Considering recent developments, they are avoiding that part of the anatomy

if at all possible...

:rofl:

[Debau2005]

109. hahah....good point!

[jojo54]

90. Just exactly what does that term mean?

"move to strike the last word". I have no idea what it means.

Anyone?

[Norquist Nemesis]

120. They're confused. It's typically on the floor of the House during debate

http://www.c-span.org/questions/week104.asp

Moving to strike the last word is a parliamentary tactic to extend debate time during the amending process. The "last word" refers to the last word of the pending amendment or bill. Motions to strike the last word are actually nonsense amendments, or more technically, "pro forma" amendments (amendments in form only.) They are not meant to literally strike out the last word. Here's how it works.

...

[jojo54]

140. Thanks for the info Norquist.

[displacedtexan]

78. Tom Feeney

"Clinton fired them all!"

What an asswipe.

[The Witch]

85. Thanks for feeding the cube rats, all!

I see I'm not missing much...

[whistle]

91. It's hard to summarize the talking points by repukes because they are

...absurd

[WinkyDink]

96. No, it isn't! Here they are: "Clinton did it, and it was bad. We did it, and it was good."

[Norquist Nemesis]

89. I'd love to hear "Will the Gentleman yield" from the Dems

and ask this piece of shit WHEN Clinton "fired them all". Big difference.

[jojo54]

79. OMG!!!

If I hear one more Repuke talk about Clinton firing all the justices, I'm gonna scream!!!

He fired them at the BEGINNING of his term and under real, LEGAL reasons!!!!!

[dubyaD40web]

82. But but Clinton!

Friggin' Feeney.

[Epiphany4z]

106. somebody there needs

reply to the B..B..But Clinton remark

[MiniMe]

93. And so did Bush. That isn't something anybody is questioning

He had the right to do that. And he could have gotten away with this except for Gonzo.

[Norquist Nemesis]

94. Clinton didn't fire the one's he appointed. Bush did.

generally speaking

[dubyaD40web]

102. Bingo!

[WinkyDink]

83. Oh, NOW the argument is simply "attorney-client", INSTEAD fo EP! Straw-grasping, anyone??

[madokie]

87. so far the 'cons have not offered anything

by way of solving the problem of 6 years of none compliance, oversight, by them themselves. that should be criminal if nothing else

[MiniMe]

98. So what else is new? They haven't offered anything since 2000

[madokie]

134. I know but with being caught with their hands in the cookie jar so to speak

you'd think they would try to distance themselves rather than to continue the lies

[lala_rawraw]

135. mutual blackmail...

if there was election fraud - and there likely was - then some of these fine folks owe their seats to Miers and Rove and they will protect themselves at all costs.

[madokie]

136. an example of why we the people need to clean house, both of 'em

so many in both parties are compromised to the point they can't do anything for us anymore. Everything they do no matter how much it looks on the surface that it is maybe good for us. Then after the dust has settled, it always turns out to have been for the have mores, everytime damn time, time and again.

[bunny planet]

88. Bullshit Feeney, nobody is going to ask Miers anything dealing with

attorney client privilege, but stuff she said and advised with more than the Prez in the room are fair game.
Inherent contempt. Bring it on!!!

[IChing]

92. Feeney made the idiot list on DU

Tom Feeney
Why did Florida House Speaker Tom Feeney call a news conference last week to defend one of his top legislative aides against questions about her job? Well, to be honest we're not really sure. But since he did, we thought we'd give you a bit of background on the 27-year-old policy staffer, Bridgette A. Gregory. Miss Gregory has no college degree, no technical experience for her job, and used to work as a waitress at Hooters. She is paid $55,664 per year. She can't spell, including, in some cases, her own name. Her work duties have got nothing to do with her job description. Oh yes, and she's apparently been working on Feeney's congressional campaign from his Capitol office, which is illegal. But she has a lovely set of gams and according to Tom Feeney himself, is "underpaid." That's why he gave her a 13 percent raise last June in "appreciation for your exemplary work performance." He added, "Oh, Miss Gregory, I think you dropped your pen."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/02/57.html

[benld74]

95. Feeney the weeney

[dubyaD40web]

97. What a FREEPER!

Feeney is really pizzing me off. What's the matter with Harriet under oath? What do you repukes have to hide?

[whistle]

104. Hide everything that's what

[blondeatlast]

107. How far UP the knowledge goes, that's what. nt

[IChing]

100. Cannon doesn't like the house threatening Miers

[Norquist Nemesis]

103. Seargant at Arms...Get your handcuffs ready!!

:popcorn:

[WinkyDink]

105. Ha! They mention Clinton--but WE HAVE NIXON to throw in their face!!

[Greylyn58]

108. Oh Lord

Can you believe these bastards actually had the nerve to talk about all the investigations tying things up and looking for crimes that don't exsist?

Gee...why does that sound familar? Oh yeah...BECAUSE YOU ASS-HATS DID IT ALL THROUGH CLINTONS YEARS IN OFFICE!!!!!!!!

Only difference here Dip-Shit is CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED BY THIS PRESIDENT!!!!!

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

[Atman]

110. The republicans are either nuts or just plane stupid.

Do they even know what the word "INVESTIGATION" means? I don't think so. I mean, they seem to think that you can't INVESTIGATE unless you already know everything you're looking for. Hey, morans...what would be the point of investigating ANYTHING if you already knew all the answers? Are you people really that stupid?

.

[jojo54]

111. Anybody noticing the body language coming from Sanchez?

She chomping at the bit - she can't wait to say those lovely words that all liberals worldwide are waiting to hear.

[Debau2005]

113. Do they vote on the motion today?

If so, I'll skip lunch!

[whistle]

116. Yes a little, but I think she is leading the committee very well

[comtec]

112. I motion for a 3rd thread in 50 more posts

however I have nothing against a 300 post topic :)

-A patriot in Exile
edit:typo

[MiniMe]

114. Thread 3 up, mods please lock this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1313323

[IChing]

118. Mods can we get some control over these threads????????? n/t

[WinkyDink]

115. (Digression: Wait until you see Bush's facial expressions coming from today's Presser!)

[IChing]

117. Mods can we get some control over these threads?????????

None are locked nor combined etc.

[Bluebear]

121. I apologize for #2, I was looking for the same heading for continuity

My bad.

[IChing]

125. None of them are locked yet

not your fault.

[sinkingfeeling]

119. Oh yes, Mr. Keller was so 'compelling' in his arguments! LOL!!

[Atman]

122. There's another TRENT in Congress?

This one is just as much of a partisan douche bag as the other one.

Harriet Miers is NOT Mr. Bush's attorney. She is a private citizen.

.

[IChing]

123. Please alert the mods for control over these threads

[Norquist Nemesis]

124. Thank you for your 'concern', Mr. Franks

:eyes:

[RufusTFirefly]

126. "It happened yesterday in the Senate Judiciary Committee"

Touche! Hooray for Conyers!

[Nunyabiz]

127. Woot MEL WATT

telling it like it is, I could swear I heard IMPEACHMENT put on the table.

[malaise]

129. He's called the President a LIAR

Duh!!!

[Bluebear]

130. Waaah "Watt called the President a liar"

[Nunyabiz]

131. Yes the TRUTH is clearly not allowed ever

If that were me I would be screaming in Cannons face and the "chairlady" should have Cannon removed

[snooper2]

132. The imperial president...

boy, repuke boy didn't like that did he, "unparlimentary lanquage"