There is one thing in Sicko that really stuck with me.

[BornagainDUer]

It was when Moore showed how Hillary Clinton changed her tune on universal healthcare after recieving big contributions from the medical industry. That infuriated me. I then put her in the same camp as the REpug sleaze only in many ways worse because she is a neoliberal with a veneer of credibility on this issue.

[MrMickeysMom]

1. This is what broke my heart and detached me from her

Even before seeing that portion of Moore's movie, I knew she was a "player". What a complete waste. I could have and WOULD have supported a Clinton ticket in 08, but recognized some time back what underlies her principles.

Too bad, isn't it?

[Henryman]

2. Just a thought....what if....

If you know how adamant in her belief in universal health care Hillary Clinton was 15 years ago, what if she is now playing the game of taking the big pharma/HMO money and then sticking it to them if she gets elected?

[churchofreality]

3. I don't think she is a sellout. I'm actually disappointed that Moore did that

I think she wants to win and will take money where she can get it. I don't think she is beholden to anyone.

[damntexdem]

5. Only to those who bribe her big.

Moore was gentle regarding her botched efforts in 1993-1994; but the effectiveness of the bribery (err, "donations") since cannot be excused.

[Warpy]

7. Her plan was a sellout

because her original idea was to submit a national single payer plan to Congress. I have no idea who or what dissuaded her from that course and caused her to cobble together the unworkable plan she presented, but something/body did.

Any plan that puts a bandaid on the present system and leaves insurance companies in place to maximize profit by denial of care is a bad plan and should be defeated.

Single payer NOW. Accept nothing less because nothing less will work.

[followthemoney]

9. And everyone lived happily forever after. n/t

[marions ghost]

4. yes but

I thought Moore implied that she was cur off at the knees, ie. over-powered...ie. nobody could have done it.

[Jim__]

6. No defense of Hillary, but they all do that.

Our political system is totally corrupt. The really sad thing is that just about any politician that doesn't playball, doesn't get elected. There are a few exceptions; but they are few and far between.

I think the only solution is a better informed electorate. And, since most of the electorate gets its information from the corporate media, ...

[Madspirit]

8. k&r but sadly, they all do it...n/t

[Fly by night]

10. The one thing that stood out for me in Sicko ...

... was Michael's conversation with an elder British politician (whose name I had and now have misplaced). When Michael asked him how Great Britain ever got the political will to institute the National Health Service, the one word answer he got was "democracy".

Just imagine what a different country the ole US of A would be if we counted the votes the way they were cast, and elected leaders who really believed that they derived their power from the consent of the governed and thus sought to obtain their priorities and initiatives from those same people.

Oh what a beautiful morning that would be.

[supernova]

11. Tony Benn

He's one of the stalwarts of Old Labour.

Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn (born 3 April 1925), known as Tony Benn, formerly 2nd Viscount Stansgate, is a British socialist politician. He was instrumental in the creation of the Peerage Act 1963. During the 1970s and 1980s he was the prominent figure on the left of the Labour Party. In the second government of Harold Wilson he was Secretary of State for Industry. In the government of James Callaghan he was Secretary of State for Energy. After John Parker he is Labour's longest serving member of parliament. He is known as one of the few politicians to have become more left-wing after holding ministerial office.<1> He has been a vegetarian since the 1970s.

The term "Bennite" has come to be used for someone of a radical but democratic left-wing position.<2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Benn

[BornagainDUer]

12. I liked that part about European governments fearing the

power of the people while in the US its the reverse.

[BlooInBloo]

13. Wow - out of all of the things that COULD have stuck with you, it was *that* one. lol!

[BornagainDUer]

14. What stuck with you, if you don't mind my askin'.