The Department of Homeland Security must be decommissioned, defunded, and DESTROYED

[derby378]

Chertoff has proved once and for all that DHS serves no purpose for America - it only exists to make Herr Decider look good and to keep the rest of us peons scared and willing to sacrifice our Constitutional rights for an illusion of safety.

You want to be a candidate for the House, Senate, or the Presidency? Tell me you'll do away with DHS. Otherwise, I call upon all precinct chairs to start drafting resolutions calling for the end of DHS. Decommission it, defund it, destroy it.

We owe it to the people of New Orleans as well as our first responders all across the nation.

[Alexander]

1. Agreed. It should never have existed.

It doesn't do anything positive.

[derby378]

4. Thank you!

Keith Olbermann confirmed my feelings about the name, too. What kind of name is "Homeland Security," anyway? Who, except for the pro-Nazi German-American Bund, ever referred to America as their "homeland," anyway? Even the most militant Native Americans never used that term, as far as I can recall.

[SammyWinstonJack]

18. bu$h used that yesterday. I cringed when he said something about protecting the "Homeland".

I hate that term, it pisses me off.

[Jed Dilligan]

23. The only other historical use I can think of

The "bantustans" that S. Africa established under apartheid were called "homelands."

The word has a very far-right ring to it, wouldn't you say?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. Remake, remodel and fund

due to the incompetence of the Bush administration and his previous 'yes men' congress who happened to underfund DHS, the US is in danger.

[derby378]

6. ???

DHS completely screwed up FEMA's attempt to intervene in the aftermath of Katrina. It's just another useless bureacracy siphoning money out of your wallet and mine, and I say the hell with DHS.

Keep FEMA, though - restore it to its original mission and give it the tools it needs to get the job done.

[MadMaddie]

3. And how about drowned in a bathtub...

Hey I am just askin...I mean the Republiks wanted to destroy government anyway...so they destroyed their own creation.

Bwa..haw..haw...fucking idiots!

But on a more serious note they have wasted the last 4 years doing nothing.....When the head of DHS says he has a gut feelin...and that's all he's got....the country is in deep trouble...

[Initech]

5. Agreed. It serves no functional purpose.

All it does is put Der Assholefurher as prime dictator supreme and remind the general populace that he can fuck with you at any time.

[KG]

33. oh, it has a definite purpose: to keep america scared out of its wits.

[Rick Myers]

7. Eliminate 'Homeland' Security!!!

What are We, the Fourth Reich??? :grr:

[Bluestar]

8. While we're at it, get rid of the word "homeland"

It sounds like Nazi Germany. I cringe every time I hear the word.

[Harry Monroe]

12. That's the first thing I thought of when I heard the name for the new department

"Homeland" Security?? We sound like an empire (which we unfortunately are). The Klingon empire also comes to mind, with Klingon being the "home" planet. Who in this Administration came up with this one and why wasn't it just called "Department of DOMESTIC Security"?? Has a much more benign ring to it.

[snappyturtle]

13. I wrote that on another thread this morning! I hate the term

"homeland" too. What ever happened to "national"?

[derby378]

9. Kick for the morning crew

Come on, coffee achievers! DHS delendum est!

[The Stranger]

10. Do away with it entirely.

[Harry Monroe]

11. Remember that Bush was "against DHS before he was for it"

He had a change of heart probably because he realized it could be used as a useful "tool" in spreading fear and terror among the US citizenry.

[snappyturtle]

16. It fits nicely into his modus operandi: fear, yes I agree with you.

It's really a scarely and BIG department with way too much power.

[corkhead]

14. what scares me is not their scare tactics, its that they have lost all credibility and need a MIHOP

in the US to regain their effectiveness

[speakclearly]

15. It might be good to remember....

The Department of Homeland Security was a creature created at the insistance of the Congress, and the idea was pushed by most of the Democratic Party leadership. For Dems to now call for it to end would be used against them as "flip-floppers". the DHS has only existed for about 3 years and that is a little close in proximity to when the Dems voted to create it, don't ya think? Ol' Lettucs head may be a bit squirrely, but what do you expect? To kill DHS in an effort to embarrass Bush would reflect negatively on Congressional Dems.

[lonestarnot]

17. It serves a fucking purpose!

Drain the treasury! Now why would we want to do away with that?

[Harry Monroe]

25. It is also serving a purpose of instilling fear into the populace

It's working beautifully for Bushco.

[librechik]

19. Yes and take that War Czar with you!

and the phony Directorate of Intelligence and whatever they're calling Total Information Awareness nowadays sinc they "shut it down"

[Bongo Prophet]

35. Yes, the Drug Czar was the precursor to this

Now we have War Czar

Office of "Special Plans"

Der Homeland

Total Information Awareness

faith-based this'n'that

(Whatever that censorship of all science should be called.)



When ideologues start inventing names and terms, it is good to pay attention...'cause they're up to no damn good.

"A dictatorship would be a heckuva lot easier..."

[librechik]

20. Yes, and take the new War Czar with you

...and that phony Directorate of Intelligence. And whatever they're calling Total Information Awareness nowadays since they "shut it down"

Oh, and that so called job Karen Hughes is supposed to be doing, improving our public relations in the Muslim World. Heckuva Job, Sasquatch!

Take the whole bunch with you. And don't forget all those party hacks you stacked the Justice Department with in lifetime civil service positions. It's not going to be easy to get them out. Why don't you do it so we don't have to after you are gone?

And make no mistake--they will be gone.

Oh, who am I kidding. It's impossible to remove a bureaucracy once it's established, isn't it? Of course the Republicans have gotten pretty close to destroying FEMA, the Dept of Education and our military. It can be done.

[The2ndWheel]

21. Along with the CIA, NSA, DARPA, etc

The only way a new agency is going to go away, is if it gets merged with other agencies, forming a larger agency. DHS isn't going anywhere. It might be renamed, like Total Information Awareness, but it's not going away.

[HonorTheConstitution]

22. Homeland is a terrible term for a democratic country

As a born German I agree that this word creates goose bumps for me and people using it are as dangerous to our democracy as the worst fascists and dictators in history. But most people don't understand English semantics and roots of words.

[Harry Monroe]

26. By it's very usage, the term "homeland" denotes that we are an empire

The US is the "homeland" and we have far flung posessions overseas. If you are a "Trekkie", you'll be familiar with the term "homeworld", especially when used by the Klingon Empire. The word sends chills up my spine. BTW, It also is reminiscent of the term "motherland" that the USSR used to use.

You think they chose the term "homeland" by accident?? I don't think so!!

How about we rename it "Department of Domestic Security". A lot more benign than "Department of Homeland Security". Perhaps we could pressure the Dems to rename this department after we take back the WH in '08.

[Javaman]

24. It's our on little bastille, is it not? nt

[mmonk]

27. It won't unless we elect Kucinich or someone like him.

This monster agency is going to be with us for a generation.

[derby378]

28. OR...

...unless enough of us pass resolutions at the county and state level to pressure our would-be legislators to dismantle DHS.

[mmonk]

29. Or maybe just have our state legislatures

not go along on a basis as an infringement (which might work).

[Xenotime]

30. What was their purpose?

How do we know that feeling in Chertoff's gut wasn't just some undercooked potato.

[pberq]

31. Yes - absolutely correct!

[Nikki Stone1]

32. But who will take over the all important "gut feeling" function?

We can't live without knowing Chertoff's stomach condition day to day.

[Decruiter]

34. Derby, YOU ROCK!!! n/t