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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:25 AM
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Bush Tells the American People: F@#K YOU! It's MY Decision and MY War (Good Article from NYT)
The arrogance is blinding - the anti-democratic, dictatorial words leave me speechless. And to boot, THEY STILL WON'T IMPEACH (despite illegal wiretapping and now admitting the outing of a CIA agent, another story altogether). It is the same worse-than-Nixonian "Yea I did it, so whatcha gonna do about it?" in your face arrogance.

WE THE PEOPLE have said ENOUGH with this war of choice, ENOUGH with the lies and deceptions, ENOUGH with the coordinated tactical use of fear on the American people to score political points, BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW, and yet Bush comes back to us and says, "It's MY decision, I don't care what you all think, I'm going forward with what I want to do!" One man, dictating the direction of our country with carte blanche power - and here I thought we were a representative democracy. guess I was wrong.

Our elected leaders are no longer honoring the Constitution OR our freedoms OR everything this country has stood for the last 200 years IF THEY DON'T IMPEACH NOW.


WASHINGTON, July 12 — President Bush struck an aggressive new tone on Thursday in his clash with Congress over Iraq, telling lawmakers they had no business trying to manage the war, portraying the conflict as a showdown with Al Qaeda and warning that moving toward withdrawal now would risk “mass killings on a horrific scale.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/washington/13policy.html?_r=1&th=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&emc=th&adxnnlx=1184335586-GyaUfp1TqC7Eebtsk5Ic0w



THE PRESIDENT: You mean in this interim period? Yes. I don't think Congress ought to be running the war. I think they ought to be funding our troops. I'm certainly interested in their opinion, but trying to run a war through resolution is a prescription for failure, as far as I'm concerned, and we can't afford to fail.

I'll work with Congress; I'll listen to Congress. Congress has got all the right to appropriate money. But the idea of telling our military how to conduct operations, for example, or how to deal with troop strength, I don't think it makes sense. I don't think it makes sense today, nor do I think it's a good precedent for the future. And so the role of the Commander-in-Chief is, of course, to consult with Congress.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070712-5.html
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:36 AM
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1. "It's my war, and I'll kill your kids if I want to."


I can't believe the American people have let our leaders get away with enabling him this long.

TC




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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:37 AM
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2. role of the CIC is to consult with congress or dictate to them? sounds more like the latter
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:39 AM
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3. "'ll work with Congress; I'll listen to Congress."
Yeah, and we should all take your word for it because you've done such a good job of doing that so far. :sarcasm:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:42 AM
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6. he doesn't listen to anyone.
he just wants Congress to give him the money, no it doesn't work like that, why don't they say(Congress) there are 3 co equal branches of government over and over over again. Shit! enough!
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:39 AM
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4. Someone needs to tell Bu$h that ......
THIS IS NOT A PC GAME OF COMMAND AND CONQUER geeeeze
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:42 AM
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5. Unitary Executives do not favor oversight!
"I don't think Congress ought to be running the war." Runs interference with their "stratergy."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:45 AM
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8. "Congress should fund the war"
Just write the checks; don't worry your pretty little heads about how it's spent.

And here I always thought that the person who paid the piper got to call the tune. Perhaps I was misinformed, or that's another thing that changed after 9/11.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:46 AM
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9. "Just send lawyers guns and fucking money, and shut the fuck up."
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:43 AM
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7. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 09:47 AM by BushDespiser12
'nuff said...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:49 AM
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11. exactly, but we have to get that notion out of his head.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:37 AM
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14. Why bother, just IMPEACH
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:14 PM
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15. no matter how many times they put forth with these Amendments/
Bills to end this invasion, * has already said he will veto them, I think they have to get to the root of problem and get his ass out or cut the funding.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:48 AM
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10. I would like to analyze this comment made:
THE PRESIDENT: You mean in this interim period? Yes. I don't think Congress ought to be running the war. I think they ought to be funding our troops. I'm certainly interested in their opinion, but trying to run a war through resolution is a prescription for failure, as far as I'm concerned, and we can't afford to fail.

I'll work with Congress; I'll listen to Congress. Congress has got all the right to appropriate money. But the idea of telling our military how to conduct operations, for example, or how to deal with troop strength, I don't think it makes sense. I don't think it makes sense today, nor do I think it's a good precedent for the future. And so the role of the Commander-in-Chief is, of course, to consult with Congress.


when he replies everything is "I" I don't think this, and I don't think that, and he does not consult with Congress, he says one thing and does another, he hates people telling him what to do, he is a very sick man. And he is stuck on his title and abuse of power.

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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:50 AM
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12. He cuoldn't get away with it if DEMS had a spine !
Its our fucking fault !.... Our Dem leaders have been a fucking disgrace !
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:54 AM
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13. When hitler became a raving lunatic running a losing war
according to the books I've read
his food tasters started getting suddenly very sick
and things started blowing up near him

Other dictators have had similar experiences

History tends to repeat itself

just sayin'
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:45 PM
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16. But that is what Rummy did for the first 3 years. He dictated troop strength against the best
advice of the generals.
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:46 PM
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17. You can't bet him off of it...
... he'll never accept that he was wrong in the first place, and he'll never be accountable for all of the fuckups he's made.
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