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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:36 PM
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Bush impeachment support growing
http://www.paradisepost.com/columns/ci_6352436

Bush impeachment support growing
David Paul Brown
Article Launched: 07/12/2007 01:00:00 AM PDT

A poll done by the American Research Group on July 6 shows some startling numbers.

Question: "Do you favor the U.S. House of Representatives beginning impeachment hearings against President Bush?"

Answer: All adults - 45 percent, Democrats - 69 percent, Republicans - 13 percent, and an amazing 50 percent from Independents.

As to impeaching Vice President Cheney, the results are even more stark. A - 54 percent, D - 76 percent, R - 17 percent, and I - 51 percent.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have said impeachment won't be pursued. Politically they may be smart not to pursue it. And some would argue for the good of the country, it's better to let it go.

There is another argument however that says ultimately, it's not about Bush or Cheney. It's not about political parties.

That's the sexy, newsworthy side of it alright.

But the real issue is our Constitution being ignored or sullied by those who consider obeying the law only when it suits them.

I can see both arguments have merit, but the problem begs the question enshrined in our history. It's one that delineates us from many other countries, even some who would call themselves democracies. Are we a country of men or laws?

It's virtually not reported in the mainstream press, but there have been marches in the streets of many cities in the U.S. demanding impeachment. There is a group of constitutional scholars and lawyers touring the country for the last year, debating the issue. About 1,500 people marched in front of Bush's father's house in Maine two weekends ago, when Bush was hosting Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

Their placards read "Impeach Bush and Cheney."

People are finally waking up to what's being done to this country.

This movement has been growing and has some momentum. We now have to ask, do the Democrats have the guts to pursue it?

Probably not.

Again, they may be right that it may hurt them in the '08 presidential election and perhaps in their own races. And yes it would admittedly be distracting and tough on the country.

But is there a point at which the Democrats should say, "Enough is enough," or not?

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:37 PM
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1. k&r
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:14 PM
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2. K&R n/t
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:19 PM
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3. I fail to see how it could only be 69% Democrat
That is pathetic, it "should" be 100% but at least in the high 90s.
What self respecting democrat would not want Bush Impeached? I mean just WTF warrants Impeachment to these people?
Mass murder, Treason, War Crimes, Crimes against humanity, Election fraud aren't enough?

Actually this poll has to be wrong considering those in favor of Impeachment were at 54% like 2 years ago and I know that disgusting Lil troll has got to have more people against him now than he did 2 years ago.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:26 PM
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5. I have faith the momentum is building. nt
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:34 PM
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6. The same democrats that voted for Lieberman?
Didn't about 30% of the Conn dems defect from the party to vote for Lieberman?

A lot of dems, especially the party leadership, love Bush and all he stands for. Lieberman was just a single example.

There are dozens, if not hundreds, in the party leadership that are exactly like him. Even the "progressive" Obama considers Lieberman a mentor. The dem leadership loves Bush/Cheney more than most rank-and-file republicans do. Red-state middle America has had it with Bush.

It's so sad, really.
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:41 PM
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8. If that's the case
Then it is time to vote for a 3rd party candidate, they have ALWAYS been better anyway.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 05:44 PM
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9. That's always the tough question.
Try to reform the party from within or defect and start a new party.

The majority of voters seem to have had their fill of both parties right now.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 09:17 PM
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13. I think it's the wording of the question
The question was worded
"Do you favor the U.S. House of Representatives beginning impeachment hearings against President Bush?"
not
"Do you think President Bush should be impeached?"
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:19 PM
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4. Impeach Cheney
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:37 PM
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7. But, but, but
We don't have the votes it would take too much time we don't want to distract from our other tasks that wasn't what they were elected to do we're just too freaking wussy let's focus on 2008 what would it accomplish please don't make us do our jobs the media would chew us up oh god it's so hard to be a democrat it's not time for bitter partisanship he's not worth it it's off the table

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:32 PM
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10. Were Democratic leaders polled?
They are the ones that need convinced.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:17 PM
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11. Please note that this poll that everyone is using
Is pretty heavily weighted toward dems, 38 to 29% of respondents.
Question:

Do you favor or oppose the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush?

7/5/07 Favor Oppose Undecided

All Adults 45% 46% 9%
Voters 46% 44% 10%

Democrats (38%) 69% 22% 9%
Republicans (29%) 13% 86% 1%
Independents (33%) 50% 30% 20%

3/15/06 42% 49% 9%

Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of adults nationwide July 3-5, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time. Of the total sample, 933 interviews were completed among registered voters.

If some GOP votes are needed to convict, this poll doesn't help much.



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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:17 PM
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12. self delete dbl post
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 08:18 PM by ben_meyers
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:38 AM
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14. Please please please get these assholes out before they take permanent control!!
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