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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:22 PM
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The strategy is working....
...the more I think about the cascade of events that are occuring on a daily basis, the more I believe that Pelosi, Reid, Conyers, and Hoyer had planned this whole scenario out. They are building up the crescendo necessary to force the Republicans in both the Senate and the House to acknowledge that removing these two cocksuckers from office is the only thing that will save their worthless hides.

Donning an asbestos suit for the inevitable flames.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:27 PM
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1. No flames from me.

:thumbsup:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:28 PM
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2. No flames. That looks exactly like what is
going on. The noose is getting tighter and tighter. Very soon there will be no wriggle room.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:29 PM
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3. Before or after they bomb Iran? n/t
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:30 PM
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5. I think that the bombing of Iran has been....
...effectively removed from the equation.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:30 PM
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4. Have you pestered your congress critters?
especially the republican ones
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:31 PM
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7. Everyday....
...phone calls and e-mails. They usually cut me off after one or two words.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:32 PM
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8. Good
people forget we are part of that equation

As to the strategy, I am not sure they have one... but if you are right (which I suspected some time ago, but since I've concluded I was wrong), then the summer will get even hotter
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:31 PM
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6. Wasn't it the repukes who impeached Nixon?
:)


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:33 PM
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9. Ironic, the committee that talked to Tricky Dick
included Junior's dad as the head of the RNC
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:34 PM
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10. Could be that they want to put impeachment on the table but think it will
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 06:36 PM by applegrove
only result in sympathy for Bush if they don't wait for more support. Remember the polls for the Dems are going up up up as we speak. Maybe they want to keep that going and figure turning a Repuke into a Dem or an independant using the legit concerns Amercians have over Iraq is a good thing in terms of ending the war there. And they don't want to let the guy have any sympathy again (remember right after 9/11 how sympathetic the public was to *).

Impeachment wouldn't bring the troops home any faster as it would take much of the focus off Iraq. And then who would be President? I doubt that neocons would loose that day. Rove or Wolfowitz or Lieberman or some other nut would be given the VP slot really quick (Cheney would be impeached first I would guess).

Better to keep the focus on the war in Iraq and building up the political pressure to redeploy the forces. Unless there is overwhelming support for impeachment of */Cheney.

IMHO

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:17 PM
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19. No, I don't think that's it...
At least not all of it. Impeach too early and it is forgotten/forgiven when the election comes round.

-Hoot
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:41 PM
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11. No flames here. In fact, I was just thinking today about the "cascade
of events", as if a dam has broken, and is still breaking. It seems more and more people are waking up to the horror this is the Bush Administration, and the lock-step Republicans (and the ones that aren't so much in lock-step are starting to fall away).
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:46 PM
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13. Ok, this might get this thread pulled....
...but it's sort of equivalent to the free fall of the Twin Towers. Ironic isn't it?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:45 PM
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12. Even if he is not forced from office
Each day that passes people distance themselves from him. He is a blackhole into which the GOP is being pulled. Pulling him out would not end the conflict. And pressure for him to change is building at an ever steady pace.

Lets say they started Impeachment proceedings today? How soon do you think they could actually get him out of office? In that time nothing would change in the conflict. And there is no guarantee that they could get him out of the office anyway. And if they get him Cheney is sitting in reserve. If they go after Cheney first George is still there.

I have no idea what the ramifications of a double impeachment would even look like. No one does. So going after them both is just silly right now.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:47 PM
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14. Starting Friday early tonight?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:47 PM
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15. drip drip drip, eh?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:54 PM
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16. Good but I support a massive surge, frontal assault, no kill zones,
heavy bombing, a Normandy invasion to stop these Nazis.

IF you get my drift,

the democratic underground partisans have been doing most of the fighting so far.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:54 PM
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17. Your Hope Must Be Boundless
Mine isn't

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1328253

The Senate's Blank Check for War on Iran

As you may know -- unless you rely on the corporate media for your news, of course -- yesterday the U.S. Senate unanimously declared that Iran was committing acts of war against the United States: a 97-0 vote to give George W. Bush a clear and unmistakable casus belli for attacking Iran whenever Dick Cheney tells him to.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:02 PM
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18. It is....
...and I made the bold prediction during the last State of the Union that it would be the last State of the Union that Jerkoff would give and that Cocksucker would sit as President of the Senate.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:47 PM
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20. I said as much
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 07:47 PM by rocknation
a few months ago.

:headbang:
rocknation
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:48 PM
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21. YO &R
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markk Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:48 PM
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22. wishful thinking
I think they just planned to play it out and if it happened it happened.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:56 PM
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23. I wrote here at DU almost 2 years ago that the 'assault will come from the right'.

Not that I know any more than anyone else... but what I was predicting way back then was that right, the conservatives would rise up and bring an end to this administration.

He's done little to stop the fiscal carnage. He's growing the government, violating the Constitution. Outing CIA agents, lying, appointing incompetent to the government.

I'm hoping they will rise up and help end this...(I hope).
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:00 PM
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24. try this theory
(I read this on daily kos)

Pelosi - ooooh, is she sharp, or what?

Madam Speaker laid a trap.

She lulled the arrogant pricks into hubristic complacency.

They figured they could do whatever they wanted. By, quote, "removing impeachment from the table" - heh, heh - she tricked 'em.

Like the 6-month-olds they basically are, the criminals in the Bush administration figured, Since I can't see it, it must not exist.

Pelosi and Co. lured the White House right into the trap.

I wonder if this is how it went:

See, Pelosi and the other members of the Democratic leadership knew that they could never muster enough support to nail the BushCheney crime family for any of the multitudinous affronts to the Constitution and the U.S. Code that they had committed, no matter how egregious those affronts might have been.

They knew that the White House and the Right-Wing Noise Machine would always find an excuse for virtually any atrocity the Rethugs had perpetrated - mostly because most of the crimes had occurred behind closed doors, or in dark cellars, or in cold, isolated cells, or in dimly lit, windowless rooms, or in areas or to people about which or whom no members of the Republic base would care.

But the Democrats knew that if they pursued investigations into all of these dark corners, sooner or later the threads would lead back to the White House, and sooner or later the pressure on the White House would be too great - the administration would have no choice but to reveal the truth, or refuse to testify.

And, given that Nancy Pelosi had said that impeachment was off the table, why, the Rethugs had nothing to worry about. They got cocky. Well, cockier.So when John Conyers was left staring at an empty chair with Harriet Miers' nameplate over it, there was no abstruse legal explanation needed - everybody got it: Somebody was defying a subpoena.

In an investigation into the White House.

That is as blatant and graphic a display of obstruction of justice as I can think of.

And thus it was that the Rethugs were lured into committing an absolutely indefensible crime against the Constitution, right out in front of God and everybody, on national television, defiantly and unapologetically.


poster(occams hatchet)


*I think this is what was planned all along..........everything is coming out...people are irate........and its not getting any better for *
















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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:03 PM
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25. Momentum from drumbeat of impeachment talk
is most significant in adding pressure to the cascade of events. Public opinion supporting impeachment has grown quickly during the last month because of it. If left to our leaders in Congress, there would be no talk of impeachment and the news of investigations would pass little noticed by most of the public.

Its outside agitation, against the wishes of those in DC, that is putting pressure on government and news media.
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