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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:54 AM
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Why can't the secret service turn evidence against Cheney?
Cheney may have done away with the visitor logs, but there still must have been eye witnesses. i.e. the secret service men. They are still public servants. Why can't they be compelled to testify?

Didn't they testify against Clinton?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:57 AM
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1. You must have forgotten about the loyalty oaths they signed
(in blood, down in the catacombs) just like the one Sara Taylor signed.

:shrug:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:59 AM
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2. Did Cheney handpick his ss men and women? I thought their positions
were non-partisan?
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:11 AM
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6. They are non-partisan. They work for administrations -
- of both flavors and are not switched in or out based on whatever party is in the White House. As far as them testifying or being witnesses, they are responsible for maintaining security while literally thousands of people go into and out of the White House and it would be impossible for them to remember off the top of their heads who entered when on what day.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 08:29 AM
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9. Perhaps they can't pinpoint it to the day,
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 08:55 AM by The Backlash Cometh
but security people make it their business to find out who's going to visit and have them checked out for security purposes. They would know who the big-wigs were at the Cheney energy meetings.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:18 PM
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13. Didn't we think the civil service people in the US attorneys office
were supposed to be non-partisan?
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:00 AM
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3. Would you want to be the one to betray the real life Hannibal Lector?
After watching him eat live Muslim babies, no agent would dare cross him.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:05 AM
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4. I don't believe that.
I thought the SS were the most patriotic and sharpest Americans. Because of their patriotism, they'd take a bullet for the person in their care, but, what if that person were doing anti-American things?
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:19 AM
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7. Now that's something to ponder.
How many sane, rational, (truly) patriotic, courageous, people would take a bullet for Dick Cheney? Perhaps they would better serve their oath, "... to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic," by just standing by and doing nothing.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:08 AM
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5. I am sure that what ever threat they have over others has been applied
to anyone close to the regime including the SS.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:25 AM
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8. Perhaps because no one has asked them to?
Their job is to serve and protect, not bring charges against people. Perhaps if someone else, say......... :think: CONGRESS asked them to they might supply the information. Just a thought. :shrug:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 08:58 AM
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12. At least the retired ones. I'm sure at least one of them has retired since
those energy meetings.

If Dick Cheney doesn't get away with this, it will send a message to all privateers that our government can be used for a little while, but not forever.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 08:46 AM
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10. Doesn't everything today come down to money?
Will they be paid enough to turn?

Are they being blackmailed?
Is it worth the risk?
Safety? Relocation program?
Do they want to be a hero and expose this?

You're dealing with a special breed here.
But you're right - it would be awesome!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 08:54 AM
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11. Hmmm, who is going to protect Darth after 1/1/09?
VP's don't get SS protection.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:25 PM
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14. Yes
the SS was ordered to testify in the Clinton case - but that was a civil lawsuit. I don't think the order in that case would necessarily apply to congressional testimony.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 02:53 PM
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15. Well, here's and idea.
Why can't we come up with at least one civil lawsuit that would give us the power to do just that?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 02:59 PM
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16. well
you'd have to find someone with standing to sue over this issue. That would be the hard part.
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