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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:38 AM
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Albert Gore, meet Joe Campbell. Joseph Campbell, Al Gore. talk amongst yourselves.
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 11:31 AM by ourbluenation
The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949) is the seminal work of comparative mythologist Joseph Campbell. In this text Campbell discusses his theory of the journey of the archetypal hero found in world mythologies and religions.

PART ONE: The Adventure of the Hero

Chapter I: Departure

* 1. The Call to Adventure

The adventure begins with the hero receiving a call to action, such as a threat to the peace of the community, or the hero simply falls into or blunders into it. The call is often announced to the hero by another character who acts as a "herald". The herald, often represented as dark or terrifying and judged evil by the world, may call the character to adventure simply by the crisis of his appearance.

* 2. Refusal of the Call

In some stories, the hero initially refuses the call to adventure. When this happens, the hero may suffer somehow, and may eventually choose to answer, or may continue to decline the call.

* 3. Supernatural Aid

After the hero has accepted the call, he encounters a protective figure (often elderly) who provides special tools and advice for the adventure ahead, such as an amulet or a weapon.

* 4. The Crossing of the First Threshold

The hero must cross the threshold between the world he is familiar with and that which he is not. Often this involves facing a "threshold guardian", an entity that works to keep all within the protective confines of the world but must be encountered in order to enter the new zone of experience.

* 5. The Belly of the Whale

The hero, rather than passing a threshold, passes into the new zone by means of rebirth. Appearing to have died by being swallowed or having their flesh scattered, the hero is transformed and becomes ready for the adventure ahead.

Chapter II: Initiation

* 1. The Road of Trials

Once past the threshold, the hero encounters a dream landscape of ambiguous and fluid forms. The hero is challenged to survive a succession of obstacles and, in so doing, amplifies his consciousness. The hero is helped covertly by the supernatural helper or may discover a benign power supporting him in his passage.

* 2. The Meeting with the Goddess

The ultimate trial is often represented as a marriage between the hero and a queenlike, or mother-like figure. This represents the hero's mastery of life (represented by the feminine) as well as the totality of what can be known. When the hero is female, this becomes a male figure.

* 3. Woman as the Temptress

His awareness expanded, the hero may fixate on the disunity between truth and his subjective outlook, inherently tainted by the flesh. This is often represented with revulsion or rejection of a female figure.

* 4. Atonement with the Father

The hero reconciles the tyrant and merciful aspects of the father-like authority figure to understand himself as well as this figure.

* 5. Apotheosis

The hero's ego is disintegrated in a breakthrough expansion of consciousness. Quite frequently the hero's idea of reality is changed; the hero may find an ability to do new things or to see a larger point of view, allowing the hero to sacrifice himself.

* 6. The Ultimate Boon

The hero is now ready to obtain that which he has set out, an item or new awareness that, once he returns, will benefit the society that he has left.


Chapter III: Return

* 1. Refusal of the Return

Having found bliss and enlightenment in the other world, the hero may not want to return to the ordinary world to bestow the boon onto his fellow man.

* 2. The Magic Flight

When the boon's acquirement (or the hero's return to the world) comes against opposition, a chase or pursuit may ensue before the hero returns.

* 3. Rescue from Without

The hero may need to be rescued by forces from the ordinary world. This may be because the hero has refused to return or because he is successfully blocked from returning with the boon. The hero loses his ego.

* 4. The Crossing of the Return Threshold

The hero returns to the world of common day and must accept it as real.

* 5. Master of the Two Worlds

Because of the boon or due to his experience, the hero may now perceive both the divine and human worlds.

* 6. Freedom to Live

The hero bestows the boon to his fellow man.


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Gore/Clark 08

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_With_a_Thousand_Faces#Criticism
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:41 AM
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1. I loved this!
Terrific post.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:46 AM
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3. if Gore is the hero here, where do you think he is along the way?
I think he's right about here...

The hero may refuse the adventure or deny the ability to move beyond the status quo. The heralded event may even be ignored – All of these constitute the ‘Refusal of the Call.’

The reluctant hero loses all desire to abandon his bliss, he does not want to take on the burdens of the world. Someone or thing may facilitate his miraculous return from apparent death. An overriding reason is necessary to bring the hero back to the world to save it.


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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:27 AM
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7. Absolutely, Refusal of the Call
It's only the inherent decency of the hero that brings him back.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:30 AM
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8. two steps after the refusal...rescued by forces of the ordinary world.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:41 AM
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9. Hold on, you're "rescuing" Al Gore?
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 11:42 AM by RestoreGore
Some of you are really resentful he is ignoring you, aren't you? How arrogant to think he has not answered his call or followed his destiny because he won't fawn over your petition. But that sure is funny... you resuing him ... wow. :rofl:
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:45 AM
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2. I Agree ~ GORE for PRESIDENT 2OO8
n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:47 AM
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4. Interesting that the story structure does not fit our current major religions except in the most
minimal way.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:54 AM
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5. Are You Aware That The Star Wars Series Was Based On That Book ???
Plus...



Must see interviews with Bill Moyers!

<snip>

Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth is essential viewing for anyone old enough to appreciate its vital teachings. One of the greatest interviews ever recorded, this six-part, six-hour encounter between teacher- mythologist Campbell and student-journalist Bill Moyers (recorded in the two years preceding Campbell's death in 1988) covers a galaxy of topics related to Campbell's central themes: Mythology is humanity's universal method of seeking the transcendental, and "follow your bliss" is the timeless formula for spiritual satisfaction. Campbell himself is the embodiment of these themes, an erudite scholar and quintessential storyteller, recalling a wide spectrum of myths from throughout history (Japanese, Native American, Egyptian, Mayan, and many more) to illustrate humankind's eternal quest to grasp the mysteries of creation. Historical artifacts and illustrations bring these timeless stories to life.
An astute interviewer, Moyers is an acolyte in perfect harmony with Campbell-as- mentor, wording questions with penetrating perfection as their intellectual dance reaches exhilarating heights of meaning and fascination. Moyers also finds the perfect hook for a global audience, examining Campbell's admiration of George Lucas's Star Wars saga as a popular tapestry of ancient myths, and Lucas himself is interviewed in a DVD bonus segment ("I'm not creating a new myth," he says, "but telling old myths in a new way"). Campbell's seemingly endless well of knowledge reaches a simple conclusion: we need myths to survive like we need oxygen to breathe, as a life force with which to understand our existence--past, present, and future. --Jeff Shannon

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An exhilarating journey into the mind and spirit of a remarkable man, a legendary teacher, and a masterful storyteller, conducted by TV journalist Bill Moyers in the acclaimed PBS series. Includes The Hero's Adventure, The Message of the Myth, The First Storytellers, Sacrifice and Bliss, Love and the Goddess, Masks of Eternity. 360 minutes.

<snip>

Link: http://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Campbell-Power-George-Lucas/dp/B00005MEVQ

A lot of local libraries used to have this in the past, but it might be in VHS.

Definitely MUST SEE stuff!

:hi:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:17 AM
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6. yes. saw parts of that interview years ago. would love to revisit. it. thx
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:07 PM
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12. Funny, while I was reading the OP, I was thinking that it sounded like a synopsis of Star Wars.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:29 PM
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13. Actually, George Lucas is/was a big Joseph Campbell fan
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 12:31 PM by RufusTFirefly
I'm still wondering what form the supernatural aid will take.

Perhaps a wise and fearless elf?


.. and I'll throw in the Lady of the Lake as a twofer




P.S. I'm a great admirer of Kucinich for those who may be concerned that I'm trashing him.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:28 PM
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17. And both the book and the movie were, in part,
based on Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress? It was intentional. The second (or third?) movie showed Luke Skywalker falling upon a cross-like walkway, arms splayed out, trying to redeem his father. The movie was rife with symbolism.

Gore, I think, is pursuing his own path. Whatever he does, I trust it's in our best interests. Campbell would have loved watching Gore.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:51 AM
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10. I have also been telling people how Gore would fit Campbell's narrative
It is a POWERFUL narrative
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:57 AM
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11. The 'Hero of a Thousand Faces' is all of us.
We the People.

And we have a Champion.

Proud to be KR5, ourbluenation. Great sig, yours.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:40 PM
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14. Absolutely. Gore is a great hero!
nt
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:23 PM
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15. Joe Campbell for President!!
Yes, (sadly) I know he is dead.

But, seriously, any candidate for President should have to have travelled the "Hero's Journey" (another Campbell book which follows the same theme as the OP).

And, unfortunately, they have not.

So (as Paul Simon asked) "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio, our nation turns it lonely eyes to you?"


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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 02:41 PM
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16. The "Mythic Age" Ended About 2,500 Years Ago
with the beginning of the "Mental Age".
And, while the power of myth is very important
in the context of personal growth, it causes more harm than good
when brought into the public sphere (religion is one example)
Al may very well be near the climax of his own "Hero's Journey,
but it is for his benefit alone, not ours. We may very well
reap the benefits of his transformation but it won't benefit
the Country as much as it would if a majority of Americans
simply grew beyond mythical thinking and embraced rationality.
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