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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:29 AM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: Bill Moyers Again Shows What Real Journalism Is About...
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 11:30 AM by Hissyspit
http://www.atlargely.com:80/2007/07/bill-moyers-aga.html

Bill Moyers again shows what real journalism is about...

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But something odd happened on the way to the impeachment talk and the appropriate political views that were supposed to be cued. Neither Nichols or Fein defended the Democrats, if anything, they skewered them for their lack of duty to their oath of office. Both agreed on the facts of the issues, that is, that serious crimes have been committed by the Executive. And both agreed that there is a remedy in impeachment and that such a remedy was the duty of Congress.

The conversation was strictly about the issues, minus the politics and both men were eloquent and passionate and not once did one of them take the now all to familiar "defend the party" posture. This amazingly informative discussion (wow, remember the old days of informative journalism, actual substance based conversations?) was mostly due to Moyers as the host. He did not invite shills or pundits, hired out to spread talking points like a virus against the minds of unsuspecting Americans. If Moyers wanted to play Wolf Blitzer, he simply would have had on Donna Brazil (representing someone from the left I assume) and John Fund (representing the money side of the Republican party while posing as a journalist, hard tight rope to balance it is) and the two would have had a typical political opinion festival. Brazil would have argued closer to the facts, simply because the facts are in opposition to this administration. Fund would have argued party affiliation. If the shoe were on the other foot, Brazil would have likely argued party affiliation and Fund would have likely argued closer to the facts, because they were in opposition to the President (in this case, Clinton).

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This was indeed impressive and my thirst for it reminded me once again just how compromised our corporate press is, how compromised our Congress is, and how broken this country is when the crimes we have witnessed against the Constitution, the rule of law, and the American people over the last six years have still not led to impeachment hearings - just the hearings even.

On the Facts of It:

Facts are not fair nor balanced. They are what they are. Yet our media treats idiotic drivel out of the mouths of paid consultants on equal footing with that of an actual expert in a particular field or actual facts. I always point to the hypothetical example of what I call the "flat earth unfairness doctrine," which stipulates that under the rules of engagement for reporting the news, both sides must be equally represented even if one side is not reputable, taking money for their "educated opinion," or defying the laws of physics and seeing pink elephants in tutus in their spare time.

By this doctrine, a fool taking money from a group of "flatlanders," as I call them, comes on a show and represents a factually unsupportable positions such as "the earth is flat." This person is given the same consideration, air time, and "fairness," as the scientist presenting the facts, namely, that the earth is round. So this presenting of facts as though they have equal footing with the opinion of shills and fools is what the public has become accustomed to. The result has been a complete removal of actual fact in favor of opinion, where the journalist plays host and lets each side present their "theory," while the public becomes more and more confused.

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Why is the corporate media not talking about impeachment?

Aside from the polls, there is really no serious examination of impeachment and educating the public on what at least half of the country wants to understand. I keep wondering why this is, and then it dawned on me on me tonight. The problem is in the flatlander doctrine of having a right/left narrative.

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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:32 AM
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1. why?
because the teevee gnews still love the monster they created.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:35 AM
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2. thanks and REC
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:37 AM
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3. I was highly impressed with the Moyer's show.
These guys cut to the chase and even had Moyers stumped. I wish we had congressmen/women and senators like these guys.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:40 AM
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4. The transcripts are MUST reading. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:43 AM
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5. Well written - I agree 100%
This was indeed impressive and my thirst for it reminded me once again just how compromised our corporate press is, how compromised our Congress is, and how broken this country is when the crimes we have witnessed against the Constitution, the rule of law, and the American people over the last six years have still not led to impeachment hearings - just the hearings even.

K & R
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:46 AM
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6. Off to the greatest page, and well deserved. n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:46 AM
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7. I've been watching TV for at least 50 years
and I've never been as impressed with anything I've seen on the small screen. Everything was factual, presented without spin or slant, and devoid of political bias. I stayed up until 2 AM to watch it again.

And the quote from the article - "Facts are not fair nor balanced. They are what they are." Wow! If a single statement summed up the failure of our so called news media to do their job, this is it.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:54 AM
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8. K & R !!!
:kick:
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:41 PM
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9. K & R!
:applause:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:09 PM
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10. Jack Cafferty of CNN asked viewers to write in their view about Nancy Pelosi taking Impeachment off
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 01:10 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
of the table. The majority of viewers that Cafferty read, wrote that they wanted Impeachment.

This was pretty dramatic.

BTW...RECOMMENDED!!!!!!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:03 PM
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11. K&R n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 09:43 PM
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12. .
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 09:48 AM
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13. K & R. nt.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 11:28 AM
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14. His show is consistently great..... that show was no exception.
Too bad we don't have a 1000 more Bill Moyers. Maybe we would
stand a chance.

I wish they would show this particular show every night for a month.....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 11:31 AM
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15. Mr. Moyers is the last in a line of 'Journalists'. Today we have news 'personalities'
Edited on Sun Jul-15-07 11:32 AM by spanone
empty heads on pretty faces.....bu$hco has also adopted this ritual.

K&R
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 08:31 PM
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16. Great article about a truly great show
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