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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:07 PM
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What a strange story -damn!!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:34 PM
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1. This one can't be decided quickly
because it is going to take both girls years to come to terms with what was done to them and to their birth parents. They're too young to understand it now.

It might be a nice gesture to forbid the good doctors from practicing. It seems they're a little to lax in the ethics department to be allowed near human beings now or in the foreseeable future.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:51 PM
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5. Yes I suspect the doctors stole the baby
They should lose their right to practice medicine. Not sure how you tell a woman who has had a C section that she had two babies. I assume she was under an anesthetic.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:39 PM
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2. So which one's the evil twin?
There's ALWAYS an evil twin.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:30 PM
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13. Find out their names first. Like if one is named "Michael" and the other is named "Not-Jenna"
Then the one named after Hasselhoff is the good one.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:44 PM
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3. What's the chances. At the same moment the woman wanted to give her baby away,
the doctor who delivered it just happened to need one.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 12:44 PM
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4. I think everybody wonders about having a twin.....
When I was a kid, I would wonder whether or not I was a twin, whether I was adopted, etc. What an incredible thing that these two girls found each other! It must have been quite a shock at first. I wonder how different their personalities are.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:42 PM
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7. It happens-
A woman I worked with had twin girls as a surprise to her, her husband, her friends and her doctor.She had all the standard prenatal care and they never heard a double heart beat and the sonogram never indicated a twin. Mary said that they were telling her she had a little girl when the doc exclaimed, "whoa here comes another one!"
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:50 PM
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9. Niiiiice...
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 01:51 PM by Clark2008
Just blame the mother automatically even when facts aren't at hand. :eyes:

I had very large babies and looked as though I were giving birth to twins both times. I would imagine that one could be the opposite - carry twins while believing that you were pregnant with only one child. I would also suspect that women in many poorer countries don't have ultrasounds very often, either. The doctors could have known there was two heartbeats and planned to take the second baby all along, so they never told the birth mother of the second heartbeat.

You never know.
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Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:26 PM
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12. well, the story stated that the delivering doc was the father of the girls
and nothing in the story suggested rape, so .. :wtf:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:39 PM
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18. I don't think the story says that at all.
The man who adopted one of the girls was the Dr.
The story does not say that he was a biological father of both girls.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:47 PM
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20. Did you actually read the story? The story never stated the doc was the bio dad at all...
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 03:51 PM by Melinda
Romo and Garcia are the doctors who delivered the twins. Petita Penaherrera and Augusto Freire are the biological parents. The bio mother never knew she had twins; the delivering doctors took one of the baies without her knowledge.

<snip>

“We never found out about the existence of that girl,” Freire said Thursday in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. “After seeing a girl in the restaurant who was exactly like mine I almost fainted.”

He recalled the ensuing conversation: “We asked ’Who’s her father?’ And the father is Dr. Romo, who was the doctor who performed the Caesarean on my wife.”

<end snip>

The biological father was told the girls father was Dr. Romo- nothing in the story states otherwise. Your "whore" remark posted toward the mother above, and your conclusion here is past invalid and overwhelmingly offensive, as is your commentary below.

*edited to add the "whore reference

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Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 04:16 PM
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21. um, your own quote from the story belies your point
“We asked ’Who’s her father?’ And the father is Dr. Romo, who was the doctor who performed the Caesarean on my wife.”

Freire states "And the father is ..." He didn't state "I was told that the father is ... To me, that seems to be a fairly clear cut declaratory statement by Freire that he is not the father of the twins.

So, what part am I misreading?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:32 PM
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23. You're missing the fact that it's a translation using phrasing that is awkward in English.
The claims are that the 1) the doctor stole the baby from a mother who was unaware she was having twins, and 2)after a nurse told her she had two girls she gave one to the doctors.

Ask yourself this: why did the doctor only claim that the woman gave him a twin, not that he was the biological father of the twins? The absence of such a claim establishes no context for your interpretation. Within context it's clear that the father is stating only that the person who was asked named Dr. Romo as the girl's father.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:11 PM
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24. They met a girl, and they asked her who the father was.
The girl would say that her father was the Dr. since he is the one who was raising her.
Why would she say she was told who her father is?
The guy is raising her.
If you were adopted, and you were asked who your father was, would you not name your adoptive father as your father?
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Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:19 PM
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26. Okay, I think I stand corrected
But as someone who's livelihood depends on his ability to write concisely, I think the journalist should have paid better attention to the translation.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:52 PM
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10. You're assuming technology that probably
doesn't exist in Ecuador. Based on the mother's shock I believe her.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:58 PM
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11. I didn't know I was having twins and they weighed 8-1/2 and 7 pounds.
I never had an ultrasound as they were just starting to do them when I was pregnant 26 years ago. The doctor only heard one heartbeat but identical twins' hearts often beat at the same time. I was huge but my first weighed 9 lbs 13 oz two years before so the doctor said I was "stretched out." (Our son weighed 10-1/2 lbs. two years later!)

Even if the mother is lying (and I don't see how that makes her a "whore,") the doctor should have gotten something in writing and legalized the adoption, if that's what it was.
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Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:32 PM
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14. "even" if the mother's lying?
“We asked ’Who’s her father?’ And the father is Dr. Romo, who was the doctor who performed the Caesarean on my wife.”


sounds to me like the mother's got some 'splainin' to do.

BTW, congratulations on your twins.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:37 PM
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17. I think you are misreading the story.
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 03:37 PM by lizzy
They've met the second girl and asked who her father was. I read it as is her adoptive father was the Dr. who performed the cesarean.
I do not think it means the Dr. is the biological father.
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Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 04:19 PM
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22. Perhaps the story could be written more clearly
But I read it to imply that Freire is acknowledging that the father of the twins is the doctor.

“We asked ’Who’s her father?’ And the father is Dr. Romo, who was the doctor who performed the Caesarean on my wife.”

Perhaps something is lost in translation, but Freire seems to be declaring who is the father of the twins (not him).
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:14 PM
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25. They are describing meeting the girl in a restaurant.
The mother of twins saw the girl and the girl looked just like her daughter.
They asked the girl who her father was, and she said that her father was the Dr. Since this is the guy who adopted her, the girl would think that he was the father. It does not make this guy her biological father.
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 01:45 PM
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8. South American indian tribes used to think twins...
... were a bad omen. Wonder if that had anything to do with it.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:33 PM
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15. Man, they totally ripped this plot off from that Lifetime Television movie
Get new writers!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:45 PM
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19. An indian movie. Zita and Gita.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:34 PM
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16. At my daughters' school are identical twins adopted from China by 2 different families.
It's very sweet and odd at the same time.
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