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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:12 PM
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The Word on the street: "The War on Terror" is B.S.
In just under 4 minutes, LiveLeak poster "Neothinker" lays out a point of view shared by many in this country, namely, that the next terrorist event in the United States isn't going to be a bona fide act of terrorism, it's going to be a False Flag attack that the "Bush Junta" (Neothinker's terminology), will use as political capital to put paid to civil rights in this country, and to put off democratic elections indefinitely;

"What I think about Homeland Security and the New Supposed Threat"
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=84f_1184368496

Neothinker's post was inspired by the latest terror bleatings from Michael Chertoff, characterized by Keith Olbermann as more of the same "sky is falling" propaganda that we have come to know and love from Bushco.

Others see Chertoff's entrail readings as more ominous. Blogger Joe Crubaugh has compiled a list of 10 of the most historically influential False Flag events as he sees them, and has some poignant observations to make about "Gut-Check Chertoff";


"...what Homeland Fascist was a principal author of the Patriot Act, which effectively polished off the Great Experiment in ordered liberty?

Correctamundo! It’s Gut-Check Chertoff.

Only 8 days after the September 11, 2001 attacks, Chertoff and Assistant Attorney General Viet D. Dinh had the 342-page Patriot Act written, printed, bound, and sitting on the desk of every member of Congress. From these facts alone, dear Watson, we can reasonably deduce several standard deductions, depending on your state’s tax code:

  1. Michael Chertoff can sho’ nuff type fast.
  2. There’s gotta be a 24-hour Kinko’s in the basement of the Capital.
  3. If you mail the anthrax about two days before introducing your 342-page legislation with lots of boring stuff on pages 9-11, NOBODY’s gonna get to the part where you eradicate a nation’s cherished liberties, and NOBODY’s going to notice how much you plagiarized from the Reichstag Fire Decree."


We definitely live in interesting times.

What do you think?
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:17 PM
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1. Spartacus is coming. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:17 PM
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2. Cornered rats cannot be trusted
Another attack in the US and the shit will hit the fan.

All these sudden terra terra alerts and now a so called Bin Laden tape will not fool too many people this time around.

I hope bigger forces are watching these evil men.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:18 PM
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9. Another attack in the U.S. and bu$h will declare throw out the Constitution and declare martial law.
General Franks warned us about that. :grr:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:24 PM
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11. He and Cheney may be in chains if that happens
Do you seriously believe the institutional structures in the US are that weak. Bring it on Bush and Cheney - we dare you. The rat traps are waiting.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:27 PM
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13. I don't think that, but bu$h and cheney do. I hope they are in for a rude awakening.
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 06:30 PM by Blue State Native
As far as he and cheney in chains, I await that day!


See post #10.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:19 PM
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3. So do we have to
storm the fookin' bastille?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 09:38 PM
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27. Well, it's the 14th of July, isn't it?
;)
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:38 PM
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4. Oh, yes, the signs are there, getting stronger by the day. These
cornered rats are dangerous. They don't care who they hurt or kill to keep power.

If there is any type of "attack" it will of course be a "false flag."



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phildo Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:42 PM
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5. And will probably be targeted on that pesty Democratic Congress if they grown the balls to start an
impeachment.

That'll learn 'em.



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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:49 PM
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6. 9/11 enabled all that the bu$h regime has done, they need more gas in the machine
They have not yet accomplished all they set about to do, the union is still pretty much intact.
So if they arrange another attack on US soil, it would allow them to finish the job 9/11 started.

All the patriotic themes will no longer be necessary because they will have take full control and have us under martial law.
The last step would then be easy under martial law, bu$h could declare he is the dictator and Cheney could run the country as he sees fit.

If there is another attack, we are so screwed unless we stand up and fight for our own freedom.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:28 PM
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14. They couldn't even steal the last election
They are not as powerful as you believe.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:29 PM
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15. and they are not as benign and incompetent as they
might have you believe...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:35 PM
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17. Bullies only frighten those who
buy the myths of their strength. Bush and Cheney are naked and nervous. It won't take long for those two rats to be trapped. I have no doubt they will try to escape but they have no idea how much anger abounds.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:39 PM
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19. I'm waiting for that anger too materialize enough to stop these thugs.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:49 PM
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20. The pot is coming to a boil
Enjoy the feast. I can't wait but then I'm old enough to remember the slow process to Nixon's crash and burn.

Fuck Bush and Cheney -they're going down
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:37 PM
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18. In the end, human greed and hubris will do them in, they acheived more than they should have.
It's going to be turbulent, to say the least. MKJ
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:50 PM
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21. Indeed it will be turbulent,
but they are going down.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:53 PM
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22. I sure hope you are correct, malaise!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:26 PM
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23. Well I did call the elections right last year
so I hope I have this one right as well.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:27 PM
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24. Sure hope you are correct.
Can't wait to see the end of this regime
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 04:06 PM
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31. They tried. Lots of funny late night computer glitches, especially in close races.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:55 PM
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7. IMPEACH NOW
For tomorrow may be too late
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:14 PM
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8. The Power of Nightmares

The Power of Nightmares


Should we be worried about the threat from organised terrorism or is it simply a phantom menace being used to stop society from falling apart?


In the past our politicians offered us dreams of a better world. Now they promise to protect us from nightmares.
The most frightening of these is the threat of an international terror network. But just as the dreams were not true, neither are these nightmares.
In a new BBC series, the Power of Nightmares explores how the idea that we are threatened by a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion.



Watch it here
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:26 PM
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12. Watch and D/L here.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:20 PM
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10. Bleak future ahead?
http://disinter.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/bleak-future-ahead/

Bleak future ahead
July 14th, 2007
Some observations:

The United States is expanding it’s military presence in the Middle East.
The war mongers are increasing their anti-Iran propaganda.
Leaks of eminent terror attacks are becoming more prevalent.
The dollar is plunging, fast.
Iran recently told Japan that they will no longer accept dollars for oil.
Plans for the North American Union are ready to go.
Call me paranoid, but there are just too many dots that are too easily connected to arrive at a very clear picture.

The reality is the dollar is about to collapse. The beneficiaries of the fiat racket know this and they are going to do everything in their power to try to prevent it. Iran’s recent transition away from the dollar in oil transactions will be a major trigger. Ever wonder why we invaded Iraq? Saddam was in the process of doing the same thing. Saddam had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and he posed absolutely no “terror” threat. The only threat that was posed was to the folks that own the federal reserve. War with Iran is coming soon.

How do you sell a war with Iran? You stage a terror attack and blame it on them - which appears to be in the works as well. The dollar is given a little more time to live. However, the national debt has grown so large that the dollar will not recover. Not to worry, our bankers have a backup plan.

Enter the North American Union, aka the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP). Anything with the word “security” in it should give you the chills. This plan includes a dollar replacement: the Amero.

Notice how Bush has made preparations to ease the transition into martial law? Now that we have the stupid public scared, broke and under control, the SPP and Amero don’t seem like that bad of a deal to them.

Finally, the bankers will have a fresh new currency in which to retain their wealth. All this at the expense of your freedom, fortunes and many of your lives.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:31 PM
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16. War and Globalization - Hijacking Catastrophe:

War and Globalization
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117338213439292490&q=Hijacking+Catastrophe&total=29&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7


Hijacking Catastrophe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SltOy_F6ZII&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YlcpXBFOXA&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZaWh0cJPQ&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8S_vOZqJbE&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GT7ti8LZ6A&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkOtqGNJ8qI&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C02QHS0D44&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YlcpXBFOXA&mode=related&search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kBX00TR-aA&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jghh00bn_DA&mode=related&search=


Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic.


She's present in our country right now, just waiting to make her - to carry out her divine mission



http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/27/1454229

CHALMERS JOHNSON: Nemesis was the ancient Greek goddess of revenge, the punisher of hubris and arrogance in human beings. You may recall she is the one that led Narcissus to the pond and showed him his reflection, and he dove in and drowned. I chose the title, because it seems to me that she's present in our country right now, just waiting to make her -- to carry out her divine mission.

By the subtitle, I really do mean it. This is not just hype to sell books -- “The Last Days of the American Republic.” I’m here concerned with a very real, concrete problem in political analysis, namely that the political system of the United States today, history tells us, is one of the most unstable combinations there is -- that is, domestic democracy and foreign empire -- that the choices are stark. A nation can be one or the other, a democracy or an imperialist, but it can't be both. If it sticks to imperialism, it will, like the old Roman Republic, on which so much of our system was modeled, like the old Roman Republic, it will lose its democracy to a domestic dictatorship.

I’ve spent some time in the book talking about an alternative, namely that of the British Empire after World War II, in which it made the decision, not perfectly executed by any manner of means, but nonetheless made the decision to give up its empire in order to keep its democracy. It became apparent to the British quite late in the game that they could keep the jewel in their crown, India, only at the expense of administrative massacres, of which they had carried them out often in India. In the wake of the war against Nazism, which had just ended, it became, I think, obvious to the British that in order to retain their empire, they would have to become a tyranny, and they, therefore, I believe, properly chose, admirably chose to give up their empire.

As I say, they didn't do it perfectly. There were tremendous atavistic fallbacks in the 1950s in the Anglo, French, Israeli attack on Egypt; in the repression of the Kikuyu -- savage repression, really -- in Kenya; and then, of course, the most obvious and weird atavism of them all, Tony Blair and his enthusiasm for renewed British imperialism in Iraq. But nonetheless, it seems to me that the history of Britain is clear that it gave up its empire in order to remain a democracy. I believe this is something we should be discussing very hard in the United States.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:37 PM
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25. K*R I got a queasy feeling about Chertoff's statement. It seemed to be a prolog
Something to lay the groundwork.

Watch for terror fighting exercises in your area. They may mimic, and prevent detection of the next
drama designed to take the Constitution completely out of the picture.

IMPEACHMENT NOW
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 09:26 PM
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26. Al-Qaeda: eternal intelligence asset
Al-Qaeda, the eternal covert operation: British “terror” incident latest product of “war on terror” propaganda
By Larry Chin
Online Journal Associate Editor


Jul 5, 2007, 01:24

SNIP

Al-Qaeda: eternal intelligence asset

The central issue of our time cannot be overemphasized: extensive historical (but ignored and covered-up) documentation establishes the fact that Al-Qaeda and Islamic “terrorism” are the creation as well as key instruments of Anglo-American military-intelligence, and Western geostrategy, managed and guided by the CIA, Pakistan’s ISI, Britain’s MI-6 and MI-5, etc.

No “terror” event, current or past, can be understood without a full inquiry against this context.

Books such as Michel Chossudovsky’s America's "War on Terrorism" and Michael C. Ruppert’s Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the end of the Age of Oil exhaustively detail this milieu.

As written by Michel Chossudovsky in America's "War on Terrorism", while “Islamic terrorists” are featured by the Bush administration and its allies as eternal threats, and blamed for every terror event including and since 9/11, “these same Islamic organizations constitute a key instrument of U.S. military-intelligence operations” all over the world.

“According to the CIA,” writes Chossudovsky, “an ‘intelligence asset’ -- as distinct from a bona fide ‘intelligence agent’ -- need not be committed to the pursuit of U.S. interests. Rather, it is meant to act and/or behave in a way that serves U.S. foreign policy pursuits . . . Intelligence assets are invariably unaware of the precise functions and roles they are performing on behalf of the CIA on the geopolitical chessboard. In turn, for these covert operations to be ‘successful,’ the CIA will use various proxy and front organizations such as Pakistan’s extensive military intelligence apparatus (the ISI).”

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2160.shtml
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:35 PM
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28. All The World Is a Stage....
It's Hollywood! Despite Iraq going nowhere, the Rethuglican nation needs to spin it, they need to create a story line that will twist this in their favor.

and like any horrible sports team, you will always have fans that will root them on no matter what... the Right Wingers!

Dap
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 09:12 AM
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29. Chertoff needs an enema
of truth
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 09:29 AM
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30. Has anyone seen Richard Clarke lately? n/t
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