About Face: STEVEN HADLEY SAYS AL QAIDA NOW HAS SAFE HAVEN IN IRAQ + Bob Shieffer BUSTS HIM!!

[The Cleaner]

Hadley on the "progress" in Iraq: "We are going into areas where Al Qaida had safe haven..."

I thought Al Qaida would only have a safe haven IF WE PULLED OUT!! But clearly Hadley just admitted Al Qaida has safe haven RIGHT NOW in Iraq so I guess that argument is now officially tossed out.
:wtf: :crazy:

Luckily, Bob Sheiffer rebuffed him at the very end (paraphrased): "I understand that's your opinion but not everybody believes it."

[Venus Dog]

1. It's the "Who's on First, What's on Second" Gang

They can't even keep their lies straight anymore - they are imploding right before our eyes.:popcorn:

[KeepItReal]

2. This is a LIE: "We are going into areas where Al Qaida had safe haven..."

The founding members the Al Qaeda are chilling in an untouchable (according to Bush & Co.) place in *Pakistan*.

Bush & Co. wants us to believe that:

A) The Pentagon and NSA cannot park a couple of satellites over Pakistan's border (for 24 hour surveillance)

and

B) At the first sign of Bin Ladin and his boys, have a predator drone launch a Hellfire missile, or even have a Stealth bomber (the Pakistani's would never know it was there, right?) bomb their asses.

[Billy Burnett]

4. Here. I'll make it easy to understand. Al Qaeda = BushCheneyCrimeInc.

Where we go, they will be.
Where they go, we will be.

If A=B & B=C, then A=C.

[Richardo]

8. Well, no one can 'park' spy satellites, not even the omnipotent Karl Rove.

The only place you can 'park' a satellite is geostationary orbit, about 22,300 MILES over the equator (you pick the longitude). It's for telecommunications satellites.

Spy satellites operate at about 10-15% of that altitude - in the 300 mile range.

So other than that, your plan is flawless :thumbsup:

[Botany]

12. We might not be able to park 'em but we can sure

"lock down" any area of the world for 24/7 monitoring with
satellites. We had satellites over russian missile sites all the time
and we had them over the mid east in gulf war # 1.

[earthlover]

3. They say we need to fight terrorists in Iraq so they don't come to the US....

....My response to them: if they can't keep terrorists out of Iraq, what makes you think you can keep them out of America?

So sad.

Bush's war has become a recruiting tool for al queda, unfortunately.

[The Cleaner]

5. I like that response!

:)

[Ilsa]

6. He's delivering his talking points on This Week w/ G.Snuffaluffagus now. nt

[kenny blankenship]

7. If you really want to eliminate Al-Q in Iraq, let the Shia fully take over

the way they plan to do whenever we eventually leave. It will not be pretty. You wouldn't want your name associated with it. But it will work.

[The Cleaner]

9. That would mean we just gave Iran the biggest gift it could have ever wanted.

A Shi'ite Iraq.

[kenny blankenship]

14. I've been saying that since 2002

as a reason NOT to invade in the first place.

Iraq is Shia territory of course. Not only are the Shia the largest group in Iraq and a clear national majority at that, the two shrines most peculiarly sacred to Shia Islam are located in Iraq. The defining event that created Shia Islam happened in Iraq. Iraq is sacred ground to Shia Islam. It is a product of --or a historical accident of-- the overall Sunni majority w/in the Muslim world and Sunni hegemony that Iraq has not had Shia dominated leadership. An accident that is now being corrected.

The Shia are not going to be denied. They mean to have a monopoly on power in Iraq befitting their majority status and befitting the historical importance of Iraq to their religious sect. It's not just "getting even with the Sunnis for Saddam Hussein" as Reichwingers try to pretend--the motivation is centuries older and deeper than that. We can leave now or later, but the result in Iraq will be the same. Two years, four years, twelve years mean nothing at all to the Shia leadership planning to consolidate a Shia Islamic Republic there. There is zero chance of us frustrating their plans for the long term--none whatsoever.

So Iran wins? Pffft. They won four years ago.

[Maestro]

10. So the US invades and now Al-Qaida has a safe haven?

And this is progress? What dipshits!

[The Cleaner]

13. It's like what Helen Thomas said to Bush in her opening question the other day:

"You brought Al Qaida to Iraq."

[Jade Fox]

11. Thomas E. Ricks who wrote the book "Fiasco" says....

that the current government of Iraq has more ties to Terrorism than Saddam Hussein ever did.