Oh my gosh. I am so outraged by this raw form of bigotry on

[cboy4]

a Christian web site.

I'm not sure whether this a mainstream Catholic site or not, but these so-called Christians should be ashamed of themselves for printing such hate speech.

:puke:

http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=719e42b0-b288-4479-9629-4bbc5decfbfe

[baby_mouse]

1. What on earth are they talking about? NT

[Skittles]

38. ?

you don't find their equating homosexuality with pedophilia disturbing?

[baby_mouse]

39. Well, yes. NT

[fudge stripe cookays]

2. Bigotry? Try HYPOCRISY!

It was a California cardinal who just issued an apology for Catholic abuses the last however many years.....

For these people to be calling gays pedophiles is beyond the pale. If I could I'd counter protest with signs saying "Kettle? This is pot. YOU'RE BLACK!" or "Catholics are the REAL pedos."

This is unbelievable.

[cboy4]

4. I know! On a day the church is in court in L.A., they do this!

Excellent point.

[rpannier]

11. They're not mainstream, and their affiliation with the Church is dubious at best

From their website:

Church of the Divide is a group of Bible-believing followers of Jesus Christ, meeting in homes on the Georgetown Divide, near Placerville, California. We are opposed to the institutional model of "church" in America and desire a return to the biblical model of Christians meeting together in homes as the Church (Rom. 16:5, Col. 4:15, Phm. 1:2). We believe in interactive meetings, with all members participating (1 Cor 14:26). We see no Scriptural basis for one paid pastor to "lord over the flock" (1 Pet. 5:3) but rather follow the Scripture's teaching of having a plurality of qualified male elders oversee the church (Acts 20:17, 1Tim.3:2).


No Pastor/Priest is hardly a Catholic model.

on edit: They consider themselves an underground Church.

[goodgd_yall]

41. Not Catholic by any sense of the word

I was looking for some more information on the publishers; glad you were able to find it. Even more cockamamie then I thought.

[mzmolly]

3. I'm glad I read the entire article, because my first reaction was

"does the catholic church want to go there?" However I do think that anyone working with children, be they clergy or parade workers should be screened for crimes against children? That said the way this was addressed is bigoted.

[PDJane]

8. Not to mention that most gays

aren't pedophiles. Oddly enough, those tend to be straight men.

Oddly enough, there's a study floating around...I'll try to find it...that said that the two indicators for child abuse are alcohol and extreme religiosity. Nothing really startling, but interesting.

[mzmolly]

17. I've read a study that backs up what you just said.

Abusers do tend to have conservative backgrounds. Some of these men feel they "own" their families. I suppose some look to the story of Lott for justification?

[pnwmom]

33. Read rpannier's post #11. This is not mainstream Catholic anything.

This group doesn't represent any larger group of Catholics.

[mzmolly]

34. Thanks, I've done so and I so appreciate the clarification.

I am of Irish Catholic descent and I have both a disdain and a reverence for the history of the Church.

:hi:

[pnwmom]

35. Hi Mz

It seems we have a lot in common!

Any kids, by any chance?

:hi:

[mzmolly]

36. Yep,

One lovely girl. She's about to turn nine. :hi: You?

[zabet]

5. The headline should read...

"Pedophile Priests Push Perverse Agenda On The Youth of The Catholic Church"

[rucky]

6. If the protestors come...

it probably WILL be filled with pedophiles.

[DutchLiberal]

7. I'm not at all surprised to see this *especially* on a Christian website

[panader0]

9. "Sodomite"? Isn't that a sect of the repubs?

[Sabriel]

23. That's 'Saddamite" n/t

[rpannier]

10. They aren't mainstream Catholic

From their website:

Church of the Divide is a group of Bible-believing followers of Jesus Christ, meeting in homes on the Georgetown Divide, near Placerville, California. We are opposed to the institutional model of "church" in America and desire a return to the biblical model of Christians meeting together in homes as the Church (Rom. 16:5, Col. 4:15, Phm. 1:2). We believe in interactive meetings, with all members participating (1 Cor 14:26). We see no Scriptural basis for one paid pastor to "lord over the flock" (1 Pet. 5:3) but rather follow the Scripture's teaching of having a plurality of qualified male elders oversee the church (Acts 20:17, 1Tim.3:2).


Not having a Pastor/Priest pretty much precludes them from mainsttream Catholicism.

I sort of doubted their 'Catholic-ness' when I saw the word 'sodomite' used. That's not typical of most mainstream Catholic churches.

Church of the Divide seemed an unusual name for a Catholic Church. But appropriate for these cranks.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Would be like describing Fred Phelps as a mainstream Christian

They look pretty weird.

[cboy4]

15. No, the church of the divide is not Catholic. They're a bunch

of lunatics who I attempt to ignore.

They're basically Northern California's version of Fred Phelps and all of his nuts.

I'm talking about the Catholic website out of San Diego that is publishing their hate speech.

That's what I have a problem with.

[rpannier]

19. Okay. My apologies

Thanks for the clarification

[mzmolly]

18. PHEW! I thought that was unusual?

Thanks. :hi:

[Toasterlad]

30. Whew! For a Minute There, I Thought the Mainstream Catholic Church Was Anti-Gay!

Thanks for setting me "straight"! :thumbsup:

[charlie]

12. Kinda funny

seeing a Catholic organ acting as a mouthpiece for a bunch of non-denom fundie bigots. They oughta call their new friends and ask what they think of Catholics.

[LittleClarkie]

13. This is the church, and they look to be NOT mainstream.

http://www.churchofthedivide.org/about.htm

They meet in people's homes for pete's sake. Like Fred Phelps, they look like they have a hangup re: gay folks.

[cboy4]

16. Right, I wasn't questioning whether they're mainstream. I

realize they're not Catholic.

I was saying I don't know whether the Catholics that host this website in San Diego are mainstream.

[LittleClarkie]

20. According to the "About us" section of the website

“The Christian communicator in particular has a prophetic task, a vocation: to speak out against the false gods and idols of the day — materialism, hedonism, consumerism, narrow nationalism, and the rest — holding up for all to see a body of moral truth based on human dignity and rights, the preferential option for the poor, the universal destination of goods, love of enemies, and unconditional respect for all human life from conception to natural death; and seeking the more perfect realization of the Kingdom in this world while remaining aware that, at the end of time, Jesus will restore all things and return them to the Father."

It looks like they forgot to read their mission statement before they posted this article which violates about half of their goals to love their enemies and unconditional respect for all human life.

I also found it interesting that many if not most of the comments with the article are not supportive.

[cboy4]

29. Yea, I was happy to see those posts. I just wonder if the word is

out, and people are going there to "DU the comments section."

I'd be happier if those are mostly Catholics associated with the site responding with disappointment.

[BlooInBloo]

21. OMG! Bigoted christians! i NEVER would have believed it! lolololol!

[LittleClarkie]

27. Gee thanks dude

Actually, most of the people who go to my church are pretty cool. Kind of depends on the denomination, I reckon.

[BlooInBloo]

31. Don't thank *me*. Thank the bigoted christians.

[JacquesMolay]

22. Hey, this is David Vitter's chance to get back in the game...

.. I'd really like to see him out there rallying the troops against sodomy.

[truckerb1968]

24. Is this any different than the Salem Witch Trials?

[cboy4]

43. Sorta, but I think these radical church groups are even more

disturbing.

Especially the ones who use explosives to terrorize women at health clinics.

[Madspirit]

25. k&r...and ironic huh?...n/t

[Not Me]

26. Okay so they are not mainstream RC's. Funny thing though,

I can picture the same words coming out of Ratzinger's mouth.

[JerseygirlCT]

28. The rank hypocrisy is stunning, huh?

They really want to talk about pedophiles?

[Bluebear]

32. They're not "real Christians"

:sarcasm:

[cboy4]

37. I know!

:eyes:

[goodgd_yall]

40. I glanced at some of their other articles

Looks like a private rag put together by hate-mongering, paranoid Catholics. There was some other article about an "anti-Catholic" jihad. Yeah, right. If they keep printing that BS they might just bring it on themselves.

[cboy4]

42. The thing that stands out is it just screams of hypocracy

considering the priest scandal.

I do know the pope would most likely concur with these anti-gay haters.