Conspiracy Moon Landing - poll

[karlrschneider]

Flipping channels, I see History Channel is showing an old (3 years) program about claims we never landed on the moon, and that NASA staged them. I've heard the arguments and the debunking so I'm not really interested in rehashing them all, just curious to see what DUers think:

[Swamp Rat]

1. The moon landings were genuine.

I landed there myself a few times. :D

[karlrschneider]

4. Me too. On the dark side!

:D

[Swamp Rat]

8. See you on the Dark Side of the Moon.

"... And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!" "

:D

When I was little, I was glued to the TV (9" black and white Zenith), watching every launch!

Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee RIP! :cry:

[The Gunslinger]

62. "There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it’s all dark."

[Journeyman]

2. The Moon Landings were done on the same soundstage. . .

on which Watergate was filmed.

[lovuian]

27. I was there when the Apollo Moon launch took place

and yes I saw the rocket go up as did all the world but we have to rely on the government for the actual setting foot on the moon

and I guess we will know when China lands there and finds our flag

I have a gut feeling its not there

[Perky]

36. Well of course our flag is not on the moon

the guys from Tang got it.

[Perky]

37. So 350,000 people kept the secret all this time??????

[karlrschneider]

Not that many.......some of them are dead.

:shrug:

[Gormy Cuss]

3. I saw "Capricorn One"

That left no doubt.





:dunce:

[razors edge]

24. Do you remember when

OJ Simpson handed the gun from the survival kit to another astronaut saying he would just shoot himself with it, and then took the knife?

:)

[Gormy Cuss]

29. O.J. with a knife?

Rings a bell.
:D

[jeff30997]

5. I saw that piece of crap 3 years ago...

And I couldn't believe that peoples would be dumb enough to

swallow all those stupid "proofs".But hey,some people believe in

creationism and reject scientific facts so...

[phaseolus]

7. frisson

Yep. There's a certain frisson that the human brain sometimes gets from believing things that go against established doctrines, even when it's stupid shit -- global warming is a hoax, Jesus Christ had kids whose descendants ruled France for a few years, the moon landings were faked, they're spraying chemical trails in our skies, Hillary Clinton had Vince Foster killed.

The same psychological phenomenon that explains UFO nuts' obsessions also explains much of modern-day Republicanism... ;)

[Madspirit]

34. Actually

Buzz Aldren claims to have seen a UFO. I love Buzz Aldren. I grew up near NASA and have visited it tons of times. Buzz is not a crank.
Lee

[judaspriestess]

6. nothing surprises me anymore

with all the lies shoved down our throats through out history. Who the hell knows.

[sutz12]

9. If you actrually watch the show.....

You'll see that all of the 'questions' are answered.

It's actually not a bad show. Some of the demonstrations and 'logical arguments' put on by the conspiracy theorists are really quite funny. Two of the leading proponents are old farts living in trailers ouside of Vegas. One of them has about 30 cats wandering around. Real solid references there. :)

[jobycom]

10. I'm open to anything, but if it was a fraud, it was the best executed in history.

Or at least, the best we know about. :)

So as not to sound wishy-washy, yes, I believe we landed on the moon, and no, I have real doubts about it. Just saying, I keep my mind open, not undecided.

[Zywiec]

11. Yes, we actually landed on the moon. n/t

[Richard Steele]

12. We landed men on the moon. I've seen the claims that we didn't, and they're just stupid.

Some people just give tinfoil-hat-wearers a bad name, y'know?

[karlrschneider]

20. And yet 3 people voted for "staged"

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Richard Steele]

67. Some people will vote for anything...

And some people will vote for anything that sows
discord on discussion boards.

[DS1]

13. Of course we landed on the moon. That's where they remote piloted the 9/11 jets

duh!

[spoony]

21. hehehe :-P

[Blue_In_AK]

14. My father worked on the Apollo program

If they didn't land on the moon, they had him and a lot of other NASA folks completely fooled.

[greyl]

16. Mine too.

He was at Goddard at the time. I always thought it was one of the cooler jobs that a Dad could have. :hi:

[Blue_In_AK]

26. We had to go to Houston

( :thumbsdown: from my point of view), but my dad did enjoy his work.

[TheTimmer]

15. Bad Astronomy

Great website for this sort of thing. Fox had something like this on several years ago, and here's Phil Plait's page on "Apollo hoaxes"

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

[LongTomH]

72. I was planning to post this!

Thx!

[pitohui]

17. i used to believe they were genuine but it's gone on too long

we obviously couldn't do this today so to believe we had the technology in 1969? not really all that believable

[karlrschneider]

19. "obviously"? Perhaps to the untutored casual observer.

:eyes:

[pitohui]

43. obviously, as in it's 2007 who has landed on the moon lately

read the news much? it ain't happening, ya'll

[Shakespeare]

28. OMG

Jesus Christ. Well, nobody can say you're not good for a little entertainment. :rofl:

[RandomKoolzip]

31. Does "pitohui" mean "gullible" in Swahili?

:rofl:

[pitohui]

45. no it's new zealander and it means "bad taste"

make of it what you will

[Book Lover]

32. I'm sorry - why is it obvious that science and tech cannot today

send humans safely to the moon and return them, safely, to the earth? What part of the plan are we lacking?

[Tesha]

46. Tractor beams and phasers? (NT)

[pitohui]

47. because things that can be done ARE done

the profit to be made by getting stupid ass bazillionaires to fly to the moon would be fairly huge this time of century

[Katherine Brengle]

50. Really? By that logic, we should be running everything on solar power,

have clean air and water, a top notch education system, etc etc etc.

Just bc things CAN be done, does not mean they ARE done. I CAN do my dishes. Like hell if I'm going to actually do them.

[H2O Man]

60. Yes, but

if the moon landing was real they would have legalized Lonnie Anderson's hair by now. The technology would allow them to accomplish that.

[ToeBot]

66. ...and if the moon were full of crude oil instead of blue cheese... nt

[Madspirit]

35. rofl

:rofl:

[Katherine Brengle]

48. We CAN do it, there just isn't any logical reason to -- it's expensive and

we don't get enough out of it to make it worthwhile.

[intaglio]

18. Aaaarrrggghhh!!!

This conspiracy fantasy has been debunked so many times that it is anyone over the age of 6 who believes it should seriously consider therapy. Oh and both the New Scientist and Scientific American shredded this programme the last time it was shown

[Canuckistanian]

22. I hate conspiracy theories

Everyone KNOWS the moon landings were a fiction dreamed up by the Illuminati.

[VP505]

23. I have argued that with

people who doubt the landing was true before. What I have said is that we were in a race with the Russians to land on the moon, the Russians would have jumped at the chance to prove that our landing was a fraud, embarrassing the USA would have made them all very happy. The KGB knew just about everything we did in those years, and if they had any inkling that it didn't happen as reported they would have made damned sure that everyone on the planet would know about it.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

25. A guy got in Buzz Aldrin's face to yell 'the Moon landings were fake!'

Aldrin decked him.

[Oeditpus Rex]

59. Jim Lovell spoke at my college in 1979

There was a press thing before the public thing. I was on the college newspaper staff, so I was there. A fellow reporter who was the "question authority" type asked him, "Did you go to the moon?"

"Yeah," Lovell said. "Twice."

"How did you know you were on the moon?" she said.

"We had pictures," he said.

:rofl:

[Sapere aude]

30. Did we do all that discovery of technology just to fake a mission?

There were side benefits to the moon race like freeze dried food and materials that can withstand reentry. What was all that for if it was faked?

[pitohui]

49. most of that stuff has been debunked

if you think freeze dried materials has no use other than traveling in space you have never hiked the appalachian trail

the teflon invented by nasa thing -- long ago debunked, try google, i'm too old and tired to do it for you

look i'm old, i was there, i want to believe, but if we had been able to do it in the 60s, we would have been able to do it today

[Katherine Brengle]

52. ur dum

:eyes:

[karlrschneider]

54. HEEHEE

UR RITE

[Katherine Brengle]

57. 0mG lolz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

:D

[baldguy]

33. You think the moon landings were a hoax?

[karlrschneider]

53. Sure, and the WTC was knocked down by controlled demolition!

Oh, wait...no, I don't.
:eyes:

[baldguy]

61. Just an excuse to post a pic of Buzz decking a hoax weinee

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. Where's The "Course They Were Real. Ya Think I'm A Raving Mad Deluded Lunatic Or Somethin?" Option?

:)

[Dukkha]

39. Truman: Whistling Dixie! I want this sent to Area 51 for study.

General: But, sir, that's where we're building the fake moon landing set.
Truman: Then we'll have to really land on the moon. Invent NASA and tell them to get off their fannies!

[H2O Man]

40. Other.

I'm not convinced we are on earth. Maybe it's a plot.

[Yukari Yakumo]

41. Other -- The Matrix has you

Everything before around 1970 is a fabrication.

...

j/k

The moon landings were real.

[Geek_Girl]

42. I grew up in Cape Canaveral FL

and knew several engineers that worked at NASA. The moon landing was real! I get personally annoyed by the anti-moon landing conspiracies.

[pitohui]

51. yeah i know lots of people who worked in aerospace also

if you think the engineers and grunts on the ground would be in on something like this i've got a bridge to sell

[karlrschneider]

55. A bridge you bought from some other nutter?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Katherine Brengle]

44. I have sneaking suspicions that we've gotten further into space than

the government admits. But I'm a nutter.

[chknltl]

56. If only they had found OIL on the moon!

... (This would make a great theme for a DU thread or an anti-war song)

[jeff30997]

64. If there was oil on the moon....

Should we nuke the Lunatics? :nuke: :)

[chknltl]

68. Yes! But only if they won't let the weapons inspectors in.

On the other hand, if we nuke the oil, that might resolve everyone's problems. How much ya wanna bet if someone placed nukes on Iraqi oil and then told bush "Leave the OIL alone or else"......
Hey Maliki...you gettin this?

[jeff30997]

69. Hehehe...Clever.

[treestar]

58. The CIA staged a bunch of stuff and now we're all suspicious

I would say the moon landings happened, but we look now at how innocent we were at the time of government shenanigans, and feel like it could have possibly been faked.

We had to do it all before the Russians did it. Nothing mattered but that we beat them, be it at swimming or figure skating or standing on the moon or having the biggest nuclear weapons.

[nolabels]

70. Or having the biggest goof for chosen leader ( just look into those eyes of *)

If we survive it could be only from interventions unseen and from beyond this world :scared:

[DavidDvorkin]

63. I worked on the Apollo program

At NASA in Houston. It all seemed quite real to me.

If it was fake, I wish they'd told me so that I could have not bothered with those loooooong days!

[Hamlette]

65. I swear, there are ppl here who think the earth is flat n/t

[chknltl]

71. I accuse my step kid of being one of them daily!

Well, he thinks Global Warming is a bunch of BS...not exactly sure who is benifiting from perpetuating such a myth because he has never had an answer to that one. He also thinks Iraq should sign it's oil over to the bush puppetteers! I am awaiting how he came to that one too! Perhaps the fact that he lives with his mother, a Republican Precinct Commander, has contributed to his emergence as one only a freeper can understand. That said, I still love him and hope he gets better soon.

[Warren DeMontague]

73. We've been lied to about a lot of things... but that's not one of them. nt

[Cobalt-60]

74. Can anyone believe the KGB would miss such a thing?

I'm sure if there was a hoax the Russians would have brought this up.
Of course they were real.
The spacecraft were seen through telescopes.
The laser reflectors are still there!
This drek is muttered by dogs eager to strip my nation of its finest achievement.
It doesn't warrant anyone's attention.