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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:00 PM
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Robert Parry: If the Democrats Want to Win...
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If the Democrats Want to Win...
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-07-18 00:21. Elections | Impeachment

By Robert Parry, www.consortiumnews.com

If the Democrats really want to prevail over George W. Bush on the Iraq War and on his authoritarian vision of presidential powers, they would put back on the table two options that their leaders have removed: a cut-off of war funding and impeachment.

Rather than all-night debates about resolutions that will go nowhere, the Democrats would make the case to the American people that Bush has trampled on the Constitution; he has ensnared the nation in a catastrophic war by lying; and he has his eyes set on more dangerous chicanery in the months ahead.

The Democrats would explain that Bush has refused to compromise when offered the chance; he has told the people’s representatives that their only war role is to finance whatever "the decider" wants to do; he has declared that he has the right to ignore or break the law; he has engaged in cover-ups of serious wrongdoing by his subordinates and is now counting on his right-wing judicial appointees to protect him from oversight.

The Democrats would call on the American people to stand up at this dangerous moment in their history – when the president and vice president have become enemies of the constitutional system devised by the Founders, a Republic based on the idea that all people possess inalienable rights and governments must ensure those rights.

Never have a president and vice president abused the public trust to the extent that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have. They have engaged in a consistent pattern of deception, not just political spin or cover-ups of petty matters, but lying about the most profound of issues, including war and the meaning of “freedom” and “democracy.”

While Bush’s remaining acolytes – the likes of New York Times columnist David Brooks – continue to gush over Bush’s rhetoric about “freedom,” the reality is that Bush has eviscerated many of the most important civil liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:10 PM
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1. ... thanks... but this is a good start.... and maybe it will encourage em to do more...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:10 PM
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2. K&R for two good men.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:51 PM
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3. Parry is correct on both the ethical and the political aspects of impeachment and
defunding the war.

The public has been frustrated with the Dems for their reliance on half hearted meek measures.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:00 PM
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4. Well, He's Half Right At Least
But "fund cutting" isn't any more real than "ratcheting up pressure" is or has been. It would just be another display of impotence (like sleeping together on separate cots). Another dead end in the DemocRat's Maze.

They either face up to "Rule By Signing Statement" or they don't (and nothing moves).

Only Impeachment ... confronts that reality.

It is our ONLY moral, patriotic, (and legislative, legal, electoral, diplomatic...) option.

Just get on with it.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:05 PM
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5. I don't give a fuck about the Democrats "winning", I just want SOMEONE to care enough to
save our Constitution!

This "winning" crap is a big part of the problem. Just do the right thing, and stop worrying about if you'll "win" or not!

JUST DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COUNTRY, DAMMIT!

sw
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:25 PM
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6. Problems with the theory
About Iraq:
Even if funding is cut, does anyone seriously believe Chimpy will bring them home? He's a "man" with zero humanity.

About impeachment:
1. The general public aren't interested in impeachment.
2. It'll never pass the House unless the case is totally solid. Even then, there's still the Senate. Yeah, forget about it passing there. Ain't gonna happen.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:48 PM
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7. That is a most important article. Bush has nearly destroyed America.
It's in his genes.

Good genes are in Robert Parry, as evidenced by Consortiumnews.com, called "the most important site on the Internet" by Bartcop.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:02 PM
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8. Also...a while back Clinton suggested rescinding original IWR. Why not? nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:31 PM
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9. As usual, he's right...IMPEACHMENT. K*R

The ultimate solution.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:40 PM
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10. Enough stunts....Impeach and use power of Inherent Contempt ...that will
reign the Bushies in.
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