*** Official Senate Filibuster Thread #4 ***

[MiniMe]

I have a feeling that these threads will start petering out soon.

on cspan2 http://www.cspan.org

[MiniMe]

1. McConnell up now making an ass of himself as usual

[Bluebear]

2. Thank you MiniMe for organizing these threads :)

[MiniMe]

6. You're welcome. It makes things much easier

otherwise, we end up with 50 threads or so and things get lost and cluttered.:toast:

[karlrschneider]

3. I had to go to town, got left behind...

;-)
tryin' ta catch up

[crappyjazz]

4. I had to mute the current asshat for a bit

I was afraid I might throw my laptop

[Bluebear]

5. OT: Does McConnell have teeth at all?

[althecat]

7. NOOOOOOOooooooooo

They may slow down a bit. But that last one only lasted a nanosecond...

[MiniMe]

12. LOL, true. The whole thread was the quorum call

[KalicoKitty]

8. I also thank you, MiniMe! n/t

[spanone]

9. 'they deserve our resolve'. dumbest fucking statement in the world.

[althecat]

10. Post Impt Filibuster Threads Needing Recs Here....

[althecat]

15. A Senate Democrat should get on the floor tonight and read the 3618 names of each soldier killed:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1360444&mesg_id=1360591

[althecat]

16. The Dems should read the names of the soldiers and how they were killed for the filibuster

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1358014

[jean]

74. We can multitask and keep DU up to date as well as Talking Points Memo

Josh Marshall is asking for help all through the night - here:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/015505.php

Stay Up All Night With Us! Sorta
07.17.07 -- 8:36PM
By Josh Marshall

It's amazing what people will do when they're into politics.

One thing I know a lot of you are going to do is stay up all night watching the filibuster hijinx in the senate. We're going to watch a lot of it here at TPM. But we're not going to be able to watch it all. So we want you to help us find the key moments for a highlight reel we're going to put together tomorrow morning.

So if you're watching tonight and you see some really choice moment, jot down the time and the time zone you're in with some very brief explanation of what the incident or statement was and then send them in to our contact email on the upper right side of the site along with the subject heading "Filibuster Video".

[LSK]

11. im here for a while - DiFi up now

[spanone]

13. you know it

[HereSince1628]

14. The S.O. says this is boring. I said yep, but this is what saves America

Sorry that it isn't as exciting as Mr. Smith goes to Washinton, but this IS what must happen to reject the Cheney Admin's rubber stamp Congress.

We might not exactly win but we can't really lose.

[bdamomma]

17. September September, there will no changes in Iraq just more

dead soldiers, disgusting SOB's repigs are.

[MiniMe]

18. And in September, 3 more months, or 6 more months

ENOUGH

[Cameron27]

24. yep total sob's, it's hard to listen to all that bilge.

[proud patriot]

19. my senator DiFi

go get em

[Maraya1969]

20. Anyone else hear this? And does it mean anything?

At the "attempt to get a quorum there was a bunch of silence and then this


"I got that" Motion agreed to a quorum - yea yea change the votes they (may think)??? make it sounds good.



EDIT: to add that it was right before Mitch McConnell started blathering.

[Nimrod2005]

28. I heard, something about they are changing the votes to make it look good?

[dweller]

35. i heard it

i'm listening, not watching. Sounded like Levin, to my ears.

dp

[southerncrone]

21. If this is successful for the Dems,

I wonder what "event" we can expect in the next few days?

The Repukes will seek revenge....it's the Repuke way.

[rocktivity]

22. Whatdaya mean? It's only primetime in the East!

We've got our popcorn! And our Aero-beds! And our beer keg! And our footed jammies! And each other! And the Repubs will supply the scary stories! It's a DU slumber party, babe!



:party: :toast:
rocknation

[rocktivity]

46. Dupe, sorry eom

n/t

[spanone]

23. the thugs are talking to each other while Feinstein is speaking.

[SeattleGirl]

25. Just flipped it back over. Did someone tell the thugs to shut up? n/t

[MiniMe]

26. Repeatedly, "The Senate is not in order, please take your discussions outside"

I love Brown's gravelly voice as the acting president of the Senate

[SeattleGirl]

29. Sorry I missed that!

And I want to add my thank to you, too, for doing these threads!

[crappyjazz]

30. Di Fi asked for order

No respect

[SeattleGirl]

33. The Repukes are nothing but bullies.

Assholes.

[bdamomma]

27. disrespectful shits.

[SeattleGirl]

31. Yup. n/t

[cui bono]

32. I just called Reid's DC office to tell them not to stop, to make it go all night.

And it's been too long since I've said that to any man. ba-dum-bum.

Seriously though, no one answered and the message box was full.

:applause: :patriot:

:party: :woohoo:

[EFerrari]

34. And now on, my DINO war profiteer senator blaming the Iraqis

for our incursions. At least she can eat time.

[John Q. Citizen]

168. DiFi sure ain't no Barbara Boxer.

[bdamomma]

36. we are committing genocide out there,

sickening. this has got to stop, we have to get our message out, really out there. We will not be ignored.

[cui bono]

39. Huh?

Are they killing the Repubs on the floor?

[crappyjazz]

37. Di is making the point that essentially

if the Iraqi govn't is taking August off, September is really only less than a month away

she's good

[EFerrari]

43. She's a Bush apologist and nicely avoiding the fact that

the US is twisting the Iraqi government's arm to fork over oil profits to American oil companies.

She is a good liar.

[dweller]

56. while her cred here is lacking, she's doing okay

at the moment.

Taking time tho, is that helping w/ the filibuster?

:shrug:
dp

[EFerrari]

70. I'm having trouble figgering what our strategy is tonight.

We keep it going and get as many Thugs on record obstructing a vote? Is that it?

[dweller]

120. they run out of hot air

and we call for a vote, and win.

:D

dp

[John Q. Citizen]

172. What do we win? The hot air derby? bush will veto it and that will be that.

i wish the Dems would just defund and impeach.

We could do that without a single Repo vote, bush couldn't veto either, and we'd really really win something worthwhile.

[Rude Horner]

38. Ok, I'm now set for the next hour of the debate

I just went and got my Ben & Jerry's "Chunky Monkey" ice cream. I'm all set. :)

I didn't mean to make it sound like I don't take this seriously. Just tossing in little joke.

[crappyjazz]

40. Damn, ice cream was a good idea

I'm just making a pot of coffee ... boring

[trashcanistanista]

96. I'm having pizza in solidarity

I heard Harry was ordering pizza for them.

[Rude Horner]

128. Congrats! That's your 666th post

Burn a witch at the stake or something. :)

[druidity33]

139. Scotch and soda here... nt

[proud patriot]

41. That Ice Cream is worth it

Yummy

[Gold Metal Flake]

42. Ice cream is good.

I was yelling at the TV during McConnell. Ice cream (Cherry Garcia) helped.

[Rude Horner]

54. It's really hitting the spot.

A great night for Dems, and a good night for me, hanging out with my friends on DU. :)

[proud patriot]

71. That's it where's my It's It's ?

:)

[MiniMe]

44. If you didn't, you would go insane.

Because what has happened in the last 6 years is insane. At least the dems are finally doing something, even if it doesn't succeed. It shows who is doing the obstructing.

[bdamomma]

91. repigs are sticking to their record, they have never been able to

govern a country, they are disgusting truly disgusting. I am proud to be Democrat.

[EFerrari]

48. Serious is highly overrated.

:)

[HeeBGBz]

Great idea! Key Lime Pie ice cream for me. n/t

[crappyjazz]

45. BUWAHAHAHAHAHA

DiFi - if anyone believes this war has helped our standing on the world stage, they're smoking something :rofl:

[JTG of the PRB]

47. I'm out of the loop!

Apparently my roommate and her sister don't think watching CSPAN2 is a worthy use of time. SIGH. Guess I'll have to read up on everything, and maybe watch later tonight if everything is still going on.

"On The Lot" is a good show, but jeez... The Senate stuff was what I was interested in tonight! :cry:

[spanone]

49. you can watch it on cspan on you puter

[crappyjazz]

50. You can get it online

www.cspan.org

[MiniMe]

51. You can stream it

http://www.cspan.org

It is on cspan2

[JTG of the PRB]

64. That's what I'm going to start doing here soon.

Thanks all! I look forward to keeping up as best I can.

[LSK]

52. can you stream it on your pc?

[rocktivity]

72. I remember there were some big hearings going on, and a DU-er lamented

that he couldn't watch them because he was in Europe. We sent him the appropriate C-SPAN link, and he was so happy!

:headbang:
rocknation

[TwilightGardener]

55. I watch via internet (CSPAN.org)--I get CSPAN 1, but not CSPAN 2 (Senate) on my cable.

[Hawkeye-X]

59. you using comcast or directv?

351 on DirecTV - Comcast is I think around 92 or so.

[bdamomma]

133. that is too bad, about your sister and room mate,this affects everyone.

[rocktivity]

53. I just remembered the very first time I laid eyes on Dianne Feinstein

When she announced that San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk had been shot to death. I couldn't have been more than ten--okay, okay, twenty.

She's still sporting enough hair lacquer to deflect a bullet, though.

:headbang:
rocknation

[EFerrari]

62. She did a good thing for this city in those dark days.

What happened to that person.

[Gregorian]

85. I know. I remember, too. It was the power of Congress.

It got in her blood. I saw it. She began speaking with what I call the Congressional accent. You know it when you hear it. Pompous.

[EFerrari]

99. Monied. Money really is the root.

:(

[Gregorian]

137. That's it.

Cheer up. We're going to see better times ahead. I'm just sure of it.

We're in this together. Even if things go to hell, we'll remember these times we spent together.

Love...

[EFerrari]

144. My best to you, Gregorian. I agree!

:toast:

[rocktivity]

87. The shooter? He was convicted of manslaughter, served five of eight years

and gave birth to "The Twinkie defense"--he was bipolar and had hypoglycemia. He'd been fired and sneaked into the city hall through a window, which sure suggests intent to me. No wonder everyone thought the jury was homophobic

:eyes:
rocknation

[EFerrari]

93. No, I meant to the person that Dianne was.

Dan White, I know what happened. I was in city government at the time. :(

[Zookeeper]

151. I remember my friends criticizing her even then....

for being too conservative. But, I thought she did a good and heartfelt job of dealing with that horrible tragedy.

"Twinkie Defense." Painful memory. :(

[EFerrari]

165. This city felt like a morgue for months. A very painful time.

:(

[Zookeeper]

174. Good description.

I was living there at the time and in my mind's eye, I always remember those days as dark.

:hug:

[cynatnite]

57. Alexander...horrible senator from my state n/t

[spanone]

63. my state too, prepared to take a nap.

[cynatnite]

68. Getting a piece of cake instead n/t

[MiniMe]

58. Who was applauding? Was that the house critters?

[Cameron27]

61. Yes, I think it was.

[LSK]

66. they are used to applause in the House, they are less strict

[SeattleGirl]

67. Or it could be the vets and other folks who are there to show support,

and not the congress critters.

[bdamomma]

69. maybe, but this guy Alexander unbelieveable how many more

must die for this incompetent * head. this is disgusting, we have to kick up really kick up. sickening.

[TwilightGardener]

60. Lamar! says it's a stunt. Demeans the war issue. Not respectful.

Remind me again, why is he not President? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[proud patriot]

75. I switched to Mike Malloy while Lamar is on

let me know if he says anything astoundingly stupid ..

[Rude Horner]

84. It would be easier to say what wasn't stupid

"A" "The" "It" "We"

Everything else was really really stupid. And that isn't much of an exaggeration.

[brentspeak]

89. Yeah, really. It would be newsworthy for Lamar NOT to say something stupid.

[proud patriot]

98. LOL ...ha ha ha ha ha

:spray: :rofl:

see that's why I specified "astoudingly stupid"

[libnnc]

78. I can't watch him. Is he wearing his red plaid?

Lumberjack moran looking asshat...

[proud patriot]

111. no , in a black suit with a tie that reminds me of Hypnotoad

:crazy:

[spanone]

81. This is from a guy who's stunt was to wear a flannel shirt when he was governor

like a 'common man'

more like a multi millionaire posing as a common man.

[Rude Horner]

65. Why the fuck does debate about the war

diminish anything?!!! It doesn't hurt the fucking troops! DAMN!, I'm tired of that argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

[EFerrari]

77. It's just their irrational broad brush.

"Don't think or talk, just fund murder." Get it? :(

[brentspeak]

109. The following is a listing of Lamar Alexander's personal military experiences

from whence he draws his informed "hurting the troops" conclusions:

......

(*crickets*)

[HughMoran]

112. "Cause Republicans are AFRAID of the discussion

...because they are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents and they don't want to hear it!


LALALALALALA!!

[SeattleGirl]

73. Lamar, you are a lying sack of shit.

Shut. Up!

[Rude Horner]

76. Petty games.

*sigh* Yeah, that whole Terry Shiavo thing wasn't games, was it?

[TwilightGardener]

79. No. That had SERIOUS ramifications for the American people.

Geez, don't you know how many chapters that will take up in American history books in the future? Where's your sense of perspective?

[SeattleGirl]

82. Of course not! We were talking about the life of one person, which

as we know, is far more important than talking about the lives (and deaths) of many people. :sarcasm:

(No insult meant to Ms. Schiavo.)

[bdamomma]

80. just sucking up to this filthy shitty man.

someone who has never had to struggle for anything. Frat boy, stupid man. Lamar sit down you stupid man. Shit how much BS can you shovel.

[MiniMe]

83. Boy these threads slow down when the repukes are up

:rofl:
Its not like they are saying anything worthwhile.

[quiet.american]

86. What can you say about the cockroaches? I'm checking to see if I have any Raid.

Hmn -- spraying my tv with it didn't work.

[SeattleGirl]

92. I have to change the channel after about a minute of any of the Pukes.

If I don't, I would probably throw something at the television!

[jean]

100. DUer Bob Geiger is taking notes on repub phrasing and talking points ...

http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/07/random-notes-from-senate-all-nighter.html

[SeattleGirl]

108. Cool! Thanks for the link. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

104. They all say the same thing,lol

Rove programmed them that way...

[TwilightGardener]

88. Does he have anything informative to say, or is this the sad pickings of

a nearly-empty head?

[MiniMe]

94. The sad pickings

He is just rambling

[bdamomma]

115. definite rambling.

[crappyjazz]

95. They all call this a political stunt

and yet they are the ones objecting to voting

and with MSM saying the same thing ... it makes my head spin

[MiniMe]

90. How dare Alexander bring up Lady Bird

[spanone]

97. Lamar is pissed cause he's missing reruns of Dukes of Hazzard.

yawn.....what the fuck is he whining about??????

[SeattleGirl]

101. ROFL!

:rofl:

[proud patriot]

116. Well That makes it all worth it for me

:bounce:

[HughMoran]

102. Are all Republicans idiot morons that can't see the most obvious thing?

These people are SO fucking stupid - I guess they want to be in the minority for a LONG time to come!

[spanone]

113. you're getting sleepy, your eyes are getting heavy......

:boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: v

[Rude Horner]

114. LOVE your name, HughMoran

I'm series!1 :rofl:

[proud patriot]

122. it's almost as if they believe their own lies

:scared:

[bdamomma]

160. they are delusional and apparently dead soldiers mean nothing

to them, and dead Iraqis. I almost wish there were some troops there to walk in and tell them their side of the story, and they have no clue what the hell is happening out there. Yea, get those Senators out there, without body armor and see how long they can take it.

[bdamomma]

124. yup, they are at the bottom of the barrel now.

stinking dogs. get Lamar off.

[bdamomma]

103. Where's the hook for Lamar, let's get him off now.

[crappyjazz]

105. GONG!

[TwilightGardener]

106. No offense to you Tennesseeans, but you guys have a knack for

picking the most useless/obnoxious Senators--Gore an honorable exception, of course. Texas a close second.

[cynatnite]

117. Racism is why Ford lost, IMO...

but, yeah, you're right.

[TwilightGardener]

132. Oops, I forgot him!

[cynatnite]

146. Well, he had to play to the right...

understandable in a state like this. So he's not well liked here at DU. Have to admit I've been pissed at his voting with the repugs when he was in the house. Still, he would have been a lot better than that oil-loving-bush-supporting criminal Bob Corker we've got now.

[spanone]

119. don't blame me, i never voted for a puker and i've been in TN for 30 yrs

but i must agree we have some doozies come out of here

[TwilightGardener]

129. J'ACCUSE! No, I understand--I'm in Nebraska. I understand being

in the helpless minority.

[blondeatlast]

123. Arizona is a neck behind. nt

[TwilightGardener]

True that. Alaksa's pretty sucky also. Oklahoma--honorable mention.

[blondeatlast]

157. We did give Mo Udall, though. And Bruce Babbitt, who should have been Prez.

But as long as we have the two we have, I'm from, uh, New Yawk--that's the ticket!

[Rude Horner]

107. Has anyone noticed that...

when a Dem is talking, they talk about the reality of what is going on in Iraq, but when Repubs talk, it's all fluff and flag waving and empty rhetoric about support the troops and not cutting and running?

[blondeatlast]

118. Why do you hate America? nt

[BattyDem]

121. I just made the same point in the post below yours.

I was typing my message while you posted yours. GMTA! :toast:

[Rude Horner]

135. But you said it SO much better!!

I wish I was as intelligent when I type as I think I am in my head. :rofl:

If I had to grade our posts, mine was a C- and yours, an A+. But I try. :)

[BattyDem]

155. The words don't matter as long as the point is made.

:hi:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

125. GOP have not gotten anything better to say

don't mention the diapers!

[MiniMe]

126. Typical MO for everything the repugs do

They run on being anti-abortion. Have they done 1 think to pass anti-choice laws? Hell no. You would think that these anti-choicers would have noticed that by now.

[BattyDem]

110. The Dems are presenting rational arguments, making valid points and ...

displaying heartfelt emotion for our troops.

The Repukes are bitching, moaning, whining and repeating every meaningless talking point they can come up with. All we're getting are rants filled with phony indignation, hollow expressions of concern for our troops and complete contempt for the democratic process.


If this appalling display by the GOP doesn't PROVE to every American that they don't give a shit about the country they are supposed to serve, the people they are supposed to represent and the troops they helped send into harm's way, then nothing ever will.

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[Diamonique]

127. I agree, but...

...unfortuntely most of America isn't watching this.

[BattyDem]

130. And that's why we're in the mess we're in ...

too many people aren't paying attention. :-(

[spanone]

131. and the media will call it a stunt and political theater. but fuck them. this is good shit.

[crappyjazz]

136. As a Canadian ... that makes me scratch my head

how isn't every American with a TV or computer watching this?

[SeattleGirl]

148. Because they've been rendered brain dead by all the fabulous "reality" TV

we have here. Too bad they won't watch REAL reality TV like what's going on now in the Senate.

[crappyjazz]

154. You all need to vote Paris Hilton in as a Senator

then maybe more would pay attention

:rofl:

[BattyDem]

149. Simon Cowell isn't judging the performances tonight ...

so most Americans don't think it's worth watching. :eyes:

[quiet.american]

169. So many are out working their 2nd and 3rd jobs trying to keep home and hearth together.

Or trying to catch a few hours sleep between jobs/before they have to get up to get the kids ready to drop them off at the daycare center they can't afford because their jobs have been outsourced and they're just trying to do whatever they can to keep it together.

[HughMoran]

156. "phony indignation, hollow expressions of concern for our troops and complete contempt for the democ

ratic process"

I.E. - THE DEFINITION OF A REPUBLICAN

Republicans are turning into a Fox News talking point.

[BattyDem]

134. Will someone PLEASE shut this guy up?!?

:puke:

[SeattleGirl]

140. I was just going to post the same thing.

Gad, how fucking much time does Lamar get?????

[ronnykmarshall]

138. I'm a bit behind ... backing up on my TV

But Dianne was wonderful!!

I love the ovation for her!!!

[dweller]

141. and then the DC madam called me...

oh, um, nevermind.


:eyes:
dp

[spanone]

142. please lamar .STFU...ASAP...your killing me.

he's just filling his time.

and lying about september. lying. lying.........

september they will be looking to fuck over the democrats ONE MORE TIME

[MiniMe]

143. Puleeze get to your point, and then shut up!

[Rude Horner]

I think his point is to bore the shit out of everyone

so even the Dems will want to call an end to the meeting. Honestly, I've heard nothing but "blah blah" background noise for the past 15 minutes from this guy.

Someone needs to tap him on the shoulder and tell him that everyone is asleep.

Oh jeez. here we go into discussions about his grandfather being a railroad engineer. *yawn*

[bobthedrummer]

145. HEY POLITICIANS-WE SENT YOU OUR MESSAGE LAST NOVEMBER

AND YOUR RESPONSE TO US
"NO..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x966088

[blondeatlast]

147. "Killing me softly... with his drone..." nt

[HeeBGBz]

158. LOL, no shit

He's telling train stories now.

[TwilightGardener]

150. LOL! Wants a BIPARTISAN way to express "support for the mission"--

uh, the GOPers and Lieberman are TECHNICALLY bipartisan, but--the Dems DON'T support the mission, you arsehole! Is he confused about the Dem vs Repub positions? Does he not realize the Dems want the war to end?

[cynatnite]

152. Lamar: "a consensus of us agree"...

what a moran. :puke:

[blondeatlast]

163. geez--what do the consensus, er, consesi, who DON'T agree, um, agree on?

Idjit he is.

[spanone]

153. most of these clowns don't get on tv much. they are tivoing themselves

no one loves the sound of their voices more than a senator

[MiniMe]

159. THREAD 5 UP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1361401

Sorry, I got distracted while Alexender was on. The thread got a bit long

[BattyDem]

164. Distracted ... or did you doze off for a while?

;-)

That guy is better than Ambien!

[MiniMe]

170. Distracted. Took time out to play with the dogs

[dweller]

166. it's okay, you deserved the nap

:thumbsup:

dp

[The Straight Story]

161. His speech should be considered a terrorist event, it's killing me....

:rofl: ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz...

[HughMoran]

162. Is this whining ass-clown ever gonna STFU!!

He is saying absolutely nothing - why doesn't he just put a sock in his mouth?

[TwilightGardener]

167. OK, if the ISG amendment is to SUPPORT continuation of the war

(albeit with "better" guidelines), then I am REALLY PISSED at Dems who are co-sponsoring it.

[rocktivity]

171. LIE-berman's up next? BARF ALERT!!

:puke:
rocknation

[Diamonique]

173. Liebershit once again...

... preaching about partisanship. What an asshat!