when the Internet suddenly Goes Dark, You'll Know it's "Game On" for Martial Law

[Wiley50]

And, I, for one, will be chilled to the bone

I need to make contact with other DUers in my area
before it's too late

If you live near Nashville, PM me
We'll do coffee or something

[whistle]

1. Any prediction as to when this might happen? The internet going dark part

[Wiley50]

4. Before Jan 20, 2009 The signs are everywhere

Bruce Fein said on Hartmann today that even Julius Ceasar didn't grab as much power as Bush has.

When he triggers Presidential Directive 51
I'm sure only well controlled TV and radio will still be operating
They know we'll organize resistance if they let the internet survive

They'll turn it off in the US

[aquart]

10. He has zero military support. Zero.

Just because George is delusional doesn't mean you have to be.

[SpiralHawk]

But Commander AWOL has the Blackwater mercenary Praetorian Guard

As long as he keeps paying this Christofacist WAR profiteering Army, they will do his bidding unquestioningly. They take no oath of allegience to the USA or the Constitution only to the paymaster (who is funneling our tax dollars into this republicon crony operation)

[whistle]

49. All 250,000 of those people

[KAT119]

44. * will close Banks, print new money, the Amero, all who want to eat

will become soldiers, work for Commander in Chief/ Dictator *!!! Many ways to enslave a nation--many of whom are asleep to what is really going on!!

First, a National-very frightening "EVENT" will be created. The more they can scare us the more people will follow * Dictator. Those who do not will go to Citizen Detainee Work Camps-- all set up and guarded presently by FEMA!!!

Fascism must be stopped Now, by ARRESTING our WH ENEMIES!!!!

[blogslut]

11. Just turn it off?

So, backbone servers, that service not just surfers but also the Federal Reserve, the US Weather service and governmental websites are just gonna be shut off?

Explain to me how that will happen.

[Posteritatis]

43. But it worked in Die Hard! (nt)

[BlooInBloo]

16. I bet ya a star for a DUer that the internet is not turned off because of martial law by then!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. How Are Folks Going To Resist If They Don't Want To Leave Their Couch?

eom

[leftchick]

21. how can they

"turn it off"

:shrug:

[pitohui]

48. well i'll say one thing for mr julius caesar

often when he invaded a country he actually won the war and added another source of wealth to his empire

* by contrast couldn't win a war out of a paperbag and the usa as an "empire" is a pitiful joke, we couldn't beat the vietnamese, hmm, north korea is still doing fine after 50-plus years, can't even make a decisive win in freaking afganistan much less iraq

*'s ambitions may be larger than caesar's because the world is larger but in no way does he have anywhere near the success or power

there will be no month of "bush" coming to a calendar near you

[bdamomma]

2. maybe then we could meet in the streets???

[abq e streeter]

3. I would , but...

I'd love to meet in the streets to reclaim our democracy, but unfortunately there's a network TV special on the philosophical musings of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears scheduled for the same night.

[Bluerthanblue]

6. .

that would be funny if it weren't so ....true.?

[EFerrari]

9. Welcome to DU, abq e streeter.

You sure have some eclectic tastes. lol

[DangerDave921]

5. TV Thriller

That would make a cool movie. Internet goes dark around the world. No one can figure out why. Interesting premise. Not going to happen, but maybe you can work on a script.

As I've said before, dollars to donuts Bush will leave office in January 2009 just like he's supposed to. Let's leave the conspiracy theories to the whackos who think LBJ secretly had Kennedy killed.

We have to deal with reality if we're going to make a difference.

[DemoTex]

7. Shortwave/Ham on 14.28 mHz USB (20-meter band)

It will probably be illegal under martial law, but what's to lose?

[alfredo]

41. Data bursts, strong encryption, one day pads. We will survive.

[aquart]

8. Thank you for your concern.

Let me know what army is going to enforce this "martial" law.

[gulliver]

12. Check your modem first, though. n/t

[blogslut]

13. Yes, those evil terrorist kitties will be to blame

Always pulling out cords...;)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. BAWAWAWAWWAWAWA

eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. If The Net Goes Dark How Will Folks Access Their Porn And Sports?

The opiate of the masses...

That would wake em up out of their quiescence...

[blondeatlast]

18. Porn--the savior of the masses? It could happen...

They wouldn't dare deny us porn...

:rofl:

[seemslikeadream]

19. I don't live near Nashville

can I still PM you? :hug:

[Wiley50]

23. Of course, you can pm me SLAD. Just like always n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. You Seem Like A Good Fella I'd Be Glad To Have A Coffe With Ya

I almost went to Vandy but your fears are misplaced...

[slj0101]

20. In all due respect,

what if the phones, TVs, radios, CBs, telegraphs and smoke signals are still running? Then what?

[RandomKoolzip]

22. Dude, relax.

The internet is more than just a meeting place for liberals, ya know. Conservative groups, neo-nazis, pedophiles, etc. all meet over the internet and exchange ideas. Plus, a staggering amount of business is conducted over the internet. you REALLY think that Bush will shut down all that lucrative money-makin' for a symbolic power grab that would only backfire?

Paranoia, like cocaine, is a hell of a drug.

In any event, I DO think it's a good idea to "get out" more and "meet" other "people" in "real life." Sitting in front of the pooter screen all day will give you a skewed perception of reality.

[Virginia Dare]

26. Not to mention there's a lot of commerce that gets done over..

the Internet these days. The corporate masters will not allow the Internet to go dark. We'll just have to go further "underground".;)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. These Doom And Gloom Threads Are Always Entertaining

Somebody should do a thread about all the conspiracies discussed here that didn't come to fruition including the "canceled" 2002, 2004, and 2006 elections...

George Bush* will leave office on 1/20/09 and hopefully be replaced by a sane leader... That is how it has been for over two hundred years and I don't see it changing...

[Ezlivin]

40. I hope we get adjoining cells when they move us to the detention camps

And I hope you've got a deck of cards.

I will be SO happy if Bush actually leaves office. I would love to see ongoing criminal trials and investigations and the restoration of our Constitutional democracy.

[alfredo]

25. Get a ham license.

[DemoTex]

35. See #7

[alfredo]

28. Is this the formation of the BDLF?

The Brown's Diner Liberation Front.

Maybe you can join forces with the BJRF The Bongo Java Revolutionary Front.

[Wiley50]

32. Both are Great Places if you live in the city n/t

[alfredo]

42. My wife used to work down there. I got to know both places.

She used to say "you are so Nashville if you get high with Don Everly in the parking lot of Friedmans."

Actually I was a Sylvan Park Diner type of guy.

She was cashier at Pancake Pantry.

[L. Coyote]

29. The Martians are coming, the Martians are coming

And the Boogey man is afoot. :rofl: What a hoot!

When the Internet goes dark, world commerce comes to a halt.
Have you no concept of how the connected world works today?

Nonetheless, DU meetups are a great idea. I suggest on Labor Day in every city.

[Ganja Ninja]

30. People nowadays depend on the internet for more than just ...

bitching about politics. The business world would raise all kinds of hell if the net were shut down.

[shadowknows69]

31. good post Wiley and a fear I've held for a long time.

Going to reference a couple things I've written that relates if I may, first a poem


Veterans of waging peace we need you.
You who stopped a war before.
Teach us.
Push us to feats of bravery and truth.
Show us where to stand so we'll be seen.
Paint our signs for us with magic words of justice
March with us if you are able.
In spirit and support if not.
We need to rally the rich that believe
Money is power. Money can buy the media. Money can get us heard.
Hopefully votes will get us heard
November 2006 is my line in the sand.
If things haven't changed after that?
I aim to misbehave.
No peace without justice.
Feed us your fire and your wisdom and we will pay it forward.


Now a pledge I made a while back

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1357971>

[Wiley50]

33. Thanks. Like you sais, I expect only subversive political sites to go down

Commercial and Govt sites will stay up.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. If A Site Goes Down You Can Be Back Up On Another Server In Seconds...

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[roamer65]

36. It would be way too obvious.

They'll block and/or shutdown selected sites like the Chinese.

http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/

A site to test which domains are blocked in China.

[EFerrari]

37. They're already scrubbing stories they don't want us to read.

People, get ready.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. DU Is Banned There..

As are most porn sites...Bleh...

[DemGa]

38. Better to have'em chatting on the internets

than have them out in the streets. Besides, it's all the better to monitor their communications.

[demobabe]

45. You'd have to explain the basis of your fear... to me it makes no sense

The internet is a conglomeration of various government, military, and private networks that all agree to use one protocol to talk to each other and pass along information, and have a system in place to reroute traffic if a route is cut off.

The internet is much like a whole pile of spiderwebs stacked on top of each other; it's not like you can pull the plug and turn off the internet.

You cut off major portions of the internet, and you disable businesses from functioning. A lot of these companies have phone service basically over VOIP - and we're talking HUGE companies. They're not going to do that.

The way these folks work is to own something and make up their own rules. That's how they do it. This is the big reason net neutrality is such a big issue.

[Zywiec]

46. Here's what's going to happen...

Then the entire world's internet will go dark..



:rofl:

[pitohui]

47. the bankers and the credit card companies won't let the internet go dark

i can just see the reaction from wall street if suddenly all online trading stopped

it just ain't gonna happen so chill

too much $$$ to be made from online trading, banking, credit cards, hell, even my insurance company is online these days, why wait to get a check in the mail when you can train the consumer to get online and pay right now today?