Reid did it! He tabled all the bills, per MSNBC. No story yet, but link:

[blondeatlast]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/18/275219.aspx

If they break for August, it's simple--no money, mo war. FY ends on 9/30, if I'm not mistaken.

[babylonsister]

1. On home page:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2921702

:hide:

[truedelphi]

2. Wowie Zowie Batman

[Donnachaidh]

3. YEAH BABY!!!!

Go Harry GO!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. Great.

No just keep them tabled.

[monmouth]

5. They are crying and whining like babies on C-SPAN . I'm lovin it...

[blondeatlast]

7. What a great, great day. I gotta get groceries and MUST got to the bank

but I can't tear myself away!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. we are totally innocent. It is the democrat party fault.

right.

[harun]

6. What exactly does this mean? (n/t)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. in summary,

as part of the defense spending bill, several senators attempted to tie the withdrawl from IraqNam over time with the funding of the DOD.

the GOP refused to consider that, and were "forced" to bust a phily. The GOP refused to approve for voting any amendment to the Endless War Department Budget, so Reid took the entire Budget bill off the table (one of his most powerful, but subtle jobs). That leaves no budget to negotiate, and that automatically means that that the funding for IraqNam neds at the end of August.

The GOPers lined up, trying to convince Amurica that democrats = bad and GOP = angels.

[Gregorian]

64. What a wonderful summary!

I like your style.

[NMDemDist2]

12. the amendment was for the funding bill for the war. he tabled the war funding bill

until the 'Pukes work out letting a vote on withdrawal come up

no $$$$ for the Pentagon so far.....

that help?

[blondeatlast]

9. Gotta run some errands--can someone monitor the MSM and Bob Geiger. nt

[mmonk]

10. This is the kind of action and leadership

necessary to battle this administration.

[helderheid]

13. HOT DAMN!!

[Richard Steele]

14. 5th rec- to the GREATEST with you! nm

eddited fer spellin

[wryter2000]

15. Awesome

Give 'em hell, Harry.

[LittleClarkie]

16. Might I submit that Harry Reid didn't have to "grow a pair"

He already damned well HAD a pair.

[SoFlaJet]

20. it seems like he really hit them

with a sucker roundhouse right that they never saw comin'-to use the boxing metaphor

[frogcycle]

27. he was rope-a-doping all night long!

Muharry Aleid?

[0007]

70. ......and he ain't playing ping pong with 'em!

GO GO SENATOR REID

[Strawman]

17. Good for him. Good job.

[mzmolly]

18. "It's time to end the duopoly, the status quo must go!"

Edited to add > :sarcasm:

Sorry, couldn't resist. Once again Go Harry! :toast:

[Laurab]

19. I am so glad! K&R

Finally something is being done that might accomplish something eventually. Finally they're doing what they were elected to do - I have hope again!

[Melissa G]

21. Thank Goodness! n/t

[Jersey Devil]

22. Not true - the money is NOT cut off

Apparently the defense authorization bill simply states preferences for how money is spent. The actual money is provided by the defense appropriations bill. See the following at TPM Cafe:
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jul/18/breaking_reid_yanks_defense_authorization_bill_to_force_gops_hand


It should be noted that the Defense authorization bill doesn't have to pass in order for the Defense appropriations bill to become law. While the authorization bill set priorities for things like weapons systems in the defense budget, only the appropriations bill actually funds those priorities -- and, unlike what we said earlier it's not strictly necessary to pass the authorization first, though it is customary.

In short, from the perspective of Pentagon operations, the lack of an authorization bill "isn't a problem, period, as long as an appropriations bill is passed," says Steve Koziack of the Center on Strategic and Budgetary Priorities.

[ClassWarrior]

33. Well, I'm guessing if you don't have authorization to spend the money...

...doesn't matter if you have it or not. Otherwise, why would we need two bills?

By the way, at first glance, the "Center on Strategic and Budgetary Priorities" appears to be a corporatist defense contractor think tank: http://www.csbaonline.org

NGU.

[ourbluenation]

23. meanwhile over in rimjobs freekrepublik

To: tcrlaf

Harry Reid can go f-— himself

38 posted on 07/18/2007 9:55:07 AM PDT by John Cena
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse >

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1867854/posts

:rofl:

[blondeatlast]

24. Times 1500 (but only 57 actual different posters...) nt

[SpiralHawk]

25. That sounds like a very republicon kind of kink

not at all democratic. So the wee pathetic minority of noisy Freepers will have to do their own diaper-clad thing on their own. As usual.

[monmouth]

31. You won't believe this but.....if we won't fund the war, this is their plan:

They will raise the money themselves for the war: "This is a GREAT idea. I wish there was a grass roots organization to have local bake sales and fund raisers for the troops. I’ll bet Melanie Morgan could pull this off." To: tcrlaf

Harry Reid can go f-— himself

38 posted on 07/18/2007 9:55:07 AM PDT by John Cena
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse >

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1867854/posts

[blondeatlast]

32. Oh, goody! RimJob's fundraising drives always go so well!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Johonny]

34. Yeah I'm sure this will work

Republicans are well known to love spending their "own" money in government projects.

[NYC Liberal]

40. LOL and they want LESS taxes, but they'll be willing to foot the

ENTIRE war bill themselves? Billions of dollars they'll raise? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[blondeatlast]

41. I'll donate 100 bucks for every Freeper who enlists! nt

[neuvocat]

46. Write a post-dated check with the date they leave the service.

Its the only way to be sure.

[blondeatlast]

53. Good thinking. nt

[piedmont]

38. "Eat a cupcake to kill an Iraqi!"

Somehow I wouldn't be hungry.

[Telly Savalas]

43. Don't laugh. They're finally getting it.

The warmongers should have bake sales and sell overpriced candy bars for funding and the schools should receive tax revenue, instead of vice-versa.

[FatDave]

63. YES!

I never thought I'd see the day

[PBass]

73. I hate seeing links to Free Republic here...

why send them web traffic by posting a link? (Web stats are how they make money... their ratings system).

It's bad enough to look, but I wish people wouldn't post the actual links. Just sum up, because if you tell me they said something stupid I'll certainly believe you.

Cheers.

[Caretha]

45. I don't think they realize

How many cupcakes they're going to need to bake & sell in order to fund the Iraq war for a couple of days....maybe someone should point out the math. Just a thought

[deepthought42]

56. Exactly. Let them figure it out the hard way.

Now, would that be actual math or Rovian math? ;) :rofl:

[cutlassmama]

51. great link!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[KansDem]

57. This sounds like "Cheney-speak"

To solicit that kind of remark, the Dems MUST be doing something right...GO DEMS!!!

[wake.up.america]

66. This is hilarious

To: tcrlaf

It’s a sign of desperation - the Rats can’t afford to wait until September and face the possibility that the news then from Iraq will be positive - they have to roll the dice now and try to force a surrender to bolster their own domestic political prospects.

[Demobrat]

67. You beat me to it.

I was just about to post the same comment. What a hoot!

[0007]

71. freerepublic = pee wee league

[autorank]

26. Reid knows parlaimentary procedure. He's done things like this before.

They're on his turf and what rules he doesn't know, Byrd does. Think about the other side, any
truly clever guys there (other than Hagel who is on our side). Oh, Sessions, well maybe;)

They're screwed if Reid persists with this. He can shut down a lot of things, including Air Force I if
he has the staying power.

They'll pull out all the nastiest stuff but, you know what, nobody is believing much of what Rove and
Co. have to say.

Go for it Harry.

[Skidmore]

28. Excellent. All I have to say is that they need to have the strongest Democratic

voices out there to counter the whine and smear that will commence on the Republic side of the aisle.

[EFerrari]

29. Kick Republican @ss, Harry!

:kick:

[sendero]

30. Congratulations..

.. to Senator Reid for playing the game the way it has to be played.

[knight_of_the_star]

35. Nicely done Senator!

This is what he's been building for, getting the opening and making damn sure he can take the shot, hit, and make it stick!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

36. It feels good, doesn't it?

Give 'em hell, Harry.

[Maddy McCall]

37. k/r awesome news!!

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

39. EXCELLENT!!! Now, tell the fuckin' OCD media to get off a nothing 'steam story'.

I haven't seen it because I've turned that shit off, once and for good! BUT, I see the references all over this board,...sadly, disgustingly, whatever.

[Gman]

42. It's called a "continuing resolution"

to keep paying the bills after 9/30.

[jazzjunkysue]

44. Call Harry 202 224 3642 only 30 sec wait today

The staffer I got was great. I told him Harry is a hero and patriot and representing me and keeping democracy alive. I told him not to back down. I also asked how the phone calls are running today and he said it's mostly positive. I thanked the staffer for taking all the hits today and being on the front lines. He was sweet and businesslike, but considering the idiots he's listening to today, he's doing great.

Give Harry some LOVE!! It FEELS GOOD!!!

[deacon]

47. What Reid did was reaffirm that this remains Bush's and the GOP's

war. Period.

[KT2000]

50. Exactly

The repubs almost got away with taking the lead on the change for Iraq - they were stealing the thunder and leaving the Dems in the dust.
Their pettiness sunk them though and Reid finished the play.
Reid played smart.

[Vidar]

48. Bravo Harry!

[krj44]

49. reids voice sounds like

its on viagra that didn`t work,that said,dems can stop the war today by cutting off funds who will stand up and say i`m going to correct this shit and if it cost me an election,well so be it,need some people with balls

[FiftysLost]

52. Filibuster

Even if the repubs drop the filibuster and let the troop withdrawal bill to be voted on the fact remains that Bush will veto it. What have we gained other than to show, what we already know, the this is a GOP war?

[Nunyabiz]

54. Bout freaking time

All they have to do is NOTHING, maybe they can get that right this time.
That treasonous bastard cant veto "nothing".

[lonestarnot]

55. Woot!

:applause:

[Limelight]

58. Encouraging, but....

I think there's a little too much applause a little too early. We'll see if Harry has the testicular fortitude to keep at this thing when they're not able to refund the war on this and the media pundits start calling him a defeatists who wants our troops to die an other assorted flavors of bullsh*t.

More over, now I want to see if the senate (I think it's the senate if I heard KO correctly) uses it's "Inherent Contempt" powers and drags Harriet Mier's punk ass and Karl Rove's bitch ass into the senate chambers and try them in house for ignoring congressional subpeonas, therefore doing and end around the utterly corrupted injustice department.

When we see that you can color me impressed.

[blondeatlast]

69. The House issues Inherent Contempt.

The House is like a grand jury, conductim investigations and hearings and decideing whether to proceed with a "trial."

The Senate simply acts as a jury, more or less.

[ReverendDeuce]

59. If this is such a huge deal, how come the "first read" story...

... doesn't seem to make anything of it?

"After failing to get the 60 votes needed to proceed to a final vote on a troop withdrawal amendment -- and then after failing to reach agreement with GOP leadership on votes other amendments -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid pulled the bill from the Senate floor.

In other words, all those other non-binding Iraq amendments waiting for a vote won't get one anytime soon."

Are you SURE you're reading this right?

[Limelight]

60. All these amendments...

Are tied to the funding of the war (if I'm correct). So Reid pulled the entire war funding bill which means no one can vote to send more money to the war as a whole. He is in effect voting to defund the war by not allowing anyone to vote on sending more money to it.

It's a big deal assuming he won't bend to pressure.

[blondeatlast]

61. There's also the possibility that they may not break for August recess

if Reid doesn't get his way--in which case the Republicans will be painted as even more obstructionist or that they'll take vacations while the troops are still struggling.

Current funding will end on 9/30, so this may be a very big deal indeed.

[ClassWarrior]

65. Take a look at this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1372439

Of course, we can't expect this level of analysis from our blow-dried spokesmodel media. The pivotal line in that story for me was this: "The benefit for the Democrats of the July push, even the unsuccessful one, has been to redefine the debate over the war."

A lot of DUers may not realize it, but that's MAJOR. The earth is beginning to shift under Washington.

NGU.

[blondeatlast]

68. Good reminder. I just kicked that one up again. nt

[EVDebs]

74. Thom Hartmann's Air America interview w/ Paul Craig Roberts, GOP needs another 9-11

or an attack on Iran to rally the troops; that's what's behind the 'surge' in Iraq--prepping for an Iran strike.

The trouble for GOP now is that the cat's outta the bag. ANY attacks either here or in the ME will be scrutinized, and no new AUMF authorization will just be 'given' to BushCo any longer.

[blondeatlast]

62. There have been plenty of stories since. That was a breaker and they never expand on those.

Read below--it's a big deal.

[Rosemary2205]

72. K&R for Harry's spine.

He's found it. whoohooo!

[LiberalLovinLug]

75. They can do it

Maybe just being paranoid but don't they have billions of "missing" taxpayer money that was supposedly shipped off to Iraq in crates? Not to mention the obscene unaccounted for money paid to 'private contractors'. They'll launder the money to pretend it comes from the 'grassroots' of the holy heartland of Mer'ca. All they have to do is fund it until next year when the whole Mess-O-Potamia falls into Hillarys hands.

That way they'll kill two Iraqis with one stone so to speak. Keep their war for profit going, and show that mainstream Americans actually DO support the war. I'm sure the MSM will be stupid enough to fall for it.

[EVDebs]

76. 9-11 fooled me once shame on you, (fill in the date) fool me twice shame on ME

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushfoolme.htm