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GOPS Worst Fear Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:11 PM
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If Bush Declares martial Law..What Would That Do To The Economy?
Has anyone in the hierarchy thought about this? Better be thinking about it..
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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:13 PM
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1. There is no economy in a martial law situation
absolute chaos.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:14 PM
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2. He would also declare the dollar null and void
Every dollar you think you have in stocks bonds and savings accounts would be lost.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:49 PM
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8. He should be declared null and void
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:16 PM
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3. There would be a run on torches
by the angry horde
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:23 PM
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4. He'd prob'ly still ask us to go shopping...
you know...go to the Theatre...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:42 PM
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5. I would think the market would love it...
the more people in jails..the more recruits for the military. The more people in jail..the bigger cheap labor force for the big-boy-corporations. A win-win!

http://www.ashrafdehghani.com/articles-english/on%20prison.htm
A Report on the Injustice System in the USA
Written by: Pauline (a contributing writer to IPFG’s Publication; Payaam Fadaee)
Published in Payame Fadaee, Spring edition 2002
The US ruling class has established the largest forced labour sweatshop system in the world.
There are now approximately 2 million inmates in US prisons compared to 1 million in 1994.
These prisoners have become a source of billions of dollars in profits. In fact, the US has imprisoned a half million more people than in China which has 5 times the population.
California alone has the biggest prison system in the Western industrialized world. It has more prisoners than France, Germany, Great Britain, Japan and Holland combined while these countries have 11 times the population of California.According to official figures, Iran incarcerates 220 citizens per 100,000, compared to US figures of 727. Overall, the total "criminal justice" system in the US, including those in prison, on parole and on probation, is approaching 6,000,000. In the last 20 years, 1000 new prisons have been built; yet they hold double their capacity.
Prisoners, 75% of who are either Black or Hispanic, are forced to work for 20 cents an hour, some even as low as 75 cents a day.They produce everything from eyewear and furniture to vehicle parts and computer software.This has lead to thousands of layoffs and the lowering of the overall wage scale of the entire working class. At Soledad Prison in California, prisoners produce work-shirts exported to Asia as well as El Salvadoran license plates more cheaply than in El Salvador, one of the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere. A May/99 report in the Wall Street Journal summarized that while “more expensive private-sector workers may lose their jobs to prison labour, assigning work to the most cost-efficient producer is good for the economy.” The February/00 Wall Street Journal reported “Prisoners are excluded from employment calculation. And since most inmates are economically disadvantaged and unskilled, jailing so many people has effectively taken a big block of the nation's least-employable citizens out of the equation.”

Federal Prison Industries (FPI) whose trade name is UNICOR exports prisoner-made products as well as selling them to all federal agencies as required by federal law. FPI manufactures over 150 different products in 99 factories in 64 prisons (with 19 new ones on the way) in 30 states. It is the federal government's 35th largest contractor, just behind IBM and is exempt from any federal workplace regulations.
FPI's prison workforce produces 98% of the entire US market for equipment assembly services, 93% of paint and artist brushes, 92% of all kitchen assembly services, 46% of all personal armour, 36% of all household furnishings and 30% of all headset/microphone/speakers, etc RW. Feb/00 FPI consistently advertises for companies "interested in leasing a ready-to-run prison industry" especially following congressional testimony in 1996 that reported a "pent-up demand for prison labour." Meanwhile, shareholders profiting from prison labour consistently lobby for the legislation of longer prison sentences in order to expand their workforce. At least 37 states have legalized the contracting out of prison labour to private corporations that have already set up operations inside state prisons. Prisons' business clients include: IBM, Boeing, Motorola Microsoft, AT&T Wireless, Texas Instruments, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northern Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom, Revlon, Macys, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores
California, with the third largest penal system in the world after China and the US as a whole, spends more on prisons than on the entire educational system. In recent years, California's university and college system cut back 8,000 employees while its Department of Corrections added 26,000. CA has built 19 prisons vs. 1 university in the past 10 years. The state spends up to $60,000 per year to incarcerate a young person, while only spending $8,000 per year to educate the same youth.


Captive Labor
America's Prisoner's As Corporate Workforce
By Gordon Lafer The American Prospect, 1 September 1999

http://www.postcarbon.org/node/2244
When most of us think of convicts at work, we picture them banging out license plates or digging ditches. Those images, however, are now far too limited to encompass the great range of jobs that America's prison workforce is performing. If you book a flight on TWA, you'll likely be talking to a prisoner at a California correctional facility that the airline uses for its reservations service. Microsoft has used Washington State prisoners to pack and ship Windows software. AT&T has used prisoners for telemarketing; Honda, for manufacturing parts; and even Toys "R" Us, for cleaning and stocking shelves for the next day's customers.
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But the attractions of prison labor extend well beyond low wages. The prison labor system does away with statutory protections that progressives and unions have fought so hard to achieve over the last 100 years. Companies that use prison labor create islands of time in which, in terms of labor relations at least, it's still the late nineteenth century. Prison employers pay no health insurance, no unemployment insurance, no payroll or Social Security taxes, no workers' compensation, no vacation time, sick leave, or overtime. In fact, to the extent that prisoners have "benefits" like health insurance, the state picks up the tab. Prison workers can be hired, fired, or reassigned at will. Not only do they have no right to organize or strike; they also have no means of filing a grievance or voicing any kind of complaint whatsoever. They have no right to circulate an employee petition or newsletter, no right to call a meeting, and no access to the press. Prison labor is the ultimate flexible and disciplined workforce.
All of these conditions apply when the state administers the prison. But the prospect of such windfall profits from prison labor has also fueled a boom in the private prison industry. Such respected money managers as Allstate, Merrill Lynch, and Shearson Lehman have all invested in private prisons. As with other privatized public services, companies that operate private prisons aim to make money by operating corrections facilities for less than what the state pays them. If they can also contract prisoners out to private enterprises—forcing inmates to work either for nothing or for a very small fraction of their "wages" and pocketing the remainder of those "wages" as corporate profit—they can open up a second revenue stream. That would make private prisons into both public service contractors and the highest-margin temp agencies in the nation.
http://www.postcarbon.org/node/2244
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:42 PM
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6. Nothing
All the corporatocracy needs to do is keep a majority of white people fat & happy - then they can do ANYTHING they want
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:44 PM
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7. "keep a majority of white people fat & happy"
That is 100% accurate. Right on.
Lee
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:57 PM
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9. If he does that, then we must go to the streets en masse.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:57 PM
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10. Nothing. Americans have always worshipped royalty and been afraid of revolution.
The British weren't afraid. It's the reason we have this country. However, Americans are terrified of it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 09:07 PM
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11. the Pathetic little psychopath would be laughed out of the White house an things would get better
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 09:13 PM
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12. US Ambassador: "Concern that US 2008 elections will be postponed."
"So! The DFH types like us aren’t the only ones to think this way. Former US Ambassador Dan Simpson writes for the Toledo Blade:

I thought that by now the White House would have decided that the strains of the job on his health were too much for Mr. Cheney to continue as vice president, that he would then have stepped down for valid health reasons, and the Republicans would have plugged into the position a viable 2008 presidential candidate.

I can think of several reasons why they didn’t do that (I will give them credit for enough intelligence to at least realize they had a problem). First, Mr. Bush felt he couldn’t live without Mr. Cheney around. Second - and I suspect this is probably the truth of the matter - Mr. Cheney didn’t want to step down and Mr. Bush decided in the end that he didn’t care what happened to the Republican Party after he was out of the White House.

There is also the late-at-night, eerie concern that Mr. Bush has in his head some sort of scenario where, for reasons of national security - real or drummed up - the 2008 elections will have to be postponed and he will get to stay on.

My suspicions have at their base the feeling I have that, given their operating style now, this bunch will not leave the White House easily in 2009.

Nice to see this mainstreamed at last."



http://www.correntewire.com/

I was thinking on this earlier..about ways to hit back if the bushits don't leave quietly and your post suggests a way. A mass strike to register our objection since they won't let us vote. As has been thought of before by anyone who's been paying attention the last 7 years..those terminally insane criminals are not going to leave without some sort of smack down.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 09:42 PM
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13. Dictatorship is "easier"!!1 n/t
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