So I was in Borders the other day and overheard something interesting

[libnnc]

I meant to post this earlier but with the all-nighter in the Senate, I got distracted.

I was sitting in Borders, sipping my favorite iced mocha drink and trying to catch up on some mandatory grad school type reading when two very well dressed, very attractive older women -- late 50s -- (Chanel sunglasses, David Yurman bracelets...the whole nine), sat at the small table beside me.

I almost instinctively cringed because I just knew that my concentration would soon be tested by chatter of golf, tales of their perfect grand-spawn "Bitsy and Mitzie", the silliness of the great unwashed anti-war protesters, where one must get the best "help" for the house in Buena Vista etc...

COLOR ME A FIRST CLASS, PRESUMPTUOUS ASSHOLE JUMPER TO CONCLUSIONS WHO SHOULD BE COMPLETELY ASHAMED OF HERSELF......

Get this -- One woman said to the other...

"Well! How much MORE can we TAKE, Gloria? How much more? They are incredulous! Criminal! I just don't understand why THAT HORRIBLE BUSH AND CHENEY CAN'T BE IMPEACHED ALREADY!"

Then the other woman added...get this friends...you'll love it...

"Betsy, darling, I must know what news you watch on television...I've been meaning to tell you YOU MUST WATCH MSNBC AT 8PM...THE MAN'S NAME IS OLBERMANN...KEITH OLBERMANN. He's on every night. Bob and I have been watching for months now. I CAN'T STOMACH ANYONE ELSE!"


Speaking of...

KEEEETHIE'S ON

Just so you know...among some "Gucci pucci" types in Winston-Salem, NC...THEY'RE USING THE "I" WORD...

[crim son]

1. Of course there are!

I love that you posted this. Thanks.

[libnnc]

2. I hoped some would find it useful

[Cha]

58. I love it when people surprise

me! Thanks for writing so rivetingly about your big SURPRISE!

I live in a small town in New York and I haven't heard of anyone who was all for bushit before, come out and say they were wrong..they're a bunch of die hard, delusional, in denial, podheads.

[bluemarkers]

105. here in nc?

A friend - A big W lover - wants Cheney to suffer the big one since is he's the real cause of W's problems. That is a good as gets for me - a bit east of you in Raleigh - she's from Fayetteville. It's a start.

:)

[illinoisprogressive]

3. You will learn over the years that people surprise you.

I remember buying a coffee pot at this one store and the lady, in her 70s, last year, who I was paying and we got to talking about what an ass Bush is.

[Robeson]

4. I have - and this is no sh!t- Repuke friends who are so embarassed...

...about bush, that they e-mail me constantly wanting to know when we are going to push for impeachment. They aren't the "backwash" Repugs. They are the old school fiscally conservative types, who we really could capture in an election.

[libnnc]

5. I was more surprised that they were discussing impeachment

So many here keep saying folks aren't discussing it in the real world...:eyes:

[Robeson]

6. I agree. It is being discussed outside of the "beltway"....

...by both sides.

[PatSeg]

61. The Beltway crowd

is always saying nobody cares about whatever issue is current "outside the beltway" and I yell back at the TV. These people are totally clueless! What makes them think that THEY are the only ones following these stories and who do they think is watching them on television??? Washington insiders???

[Oak2004]

120. In my real world, people are talking about it

I don't live in some liberal bubble, either (despite living in Burlington VT)-- my day to day dealings are with working class rural Vermonters, and my family is scattered across the midwest and south. I hear the I-word a lot. I've even heard the r-word (revolution) uttered in disgust.

It's very hard to get 70% of Americans to agree on anything. But by golly, Bush fulfilled his campaign promise. He has united us-- in our loathing for him.

[caligirl]

7. Tell them if they want bush delt with they need to get their own party to help out.

[Robeson]

8. There are Repugs out there who have given up on their own party....

...we'd be fools not to reel them in. Don't kid yourself, not all of them are frothing at the mouths Limpballs. We have an opportunity here.

[caligirl]

9. Not what I was trying to say, what i was trying to point out is that

Bush remains where he is because the GOP still supports him even though people who long have been repub's are now opposed to * policies and actions. They need to turn up the heat on their members of congress to represent them according to their wishs. The GOP isn't doing it. If the repubs in this country join the independents and dems fine, all for it. But Bush will not be forced to change direction until the GOP goes after him.

[Robeson]

14. I know what you're saying, but sadly, bush is deaf to all at this point....

...he's simply taking orders from his paymasters. He only has till 2008. There is no incentive for him to oblige anybody, other than those whom he serves.

[sce56]

82. The only thing that will get him is for the media to start telling the truth!

I'm sick of the BS being told and the truth that is hidden by the MSM.
Thank God for KO

[noahmijo]

118. Yup we have pissed off Repubs to thank for the Dem majority right now

As much as I stay I will never even consider voting Republican for all the damage they have caused this nation I will always embrace pissed off Republicans who don't want to leave the party but want to kick the neo-cons out in order to reform the party into something that at the minimum we may not agree with but can at least reason with.

[Vektor]

10. They might not even be Repubs...

There are a lot of well dressed, wealthy Democrats out there...I see them all over the Bay Area, CA.

Sporting Dem bumper stickers on their luxury cars, and walking around fund-raising for Dems, clad in head to toe designer duds.

[libnnc]

12. Whether or not they are Replugs...they're saying the "I" word

in public. In spaces where they can be overheard by strangers. To me that says VOLUMES.

We're not on the cutting edge here on DU anymore...'peachment talk has gone mainstream.

[Vektor]

53. Yeah - I see what you're saying there...

I wonder how many others are thinking the same thing but haven't spoken up yet?

[Raster]

86. Impeachment has gone FAR BEYOND mainstream. Any American citizen with half a brain

is thinking and saying Impeachment. Most of America wants bush* and cheney* impeached. One must wonder why Congress does not feel the same.

Wake up America!:kick:

[connecticut yankee]

76. Actually,

the Repukes I know are all kind of dowdy.

The Dems are the ones who are well-dressed.

[Vektor]

116. I agree with you there!

I just didn't want to say it outright, or anything. ;-)

[SeattleGirl]

11. Sweet story!

:thumbsup:

[libnnc]

16. Thank you. It really took me by surprise

Was food for thought all day today.

[EFerrari]

13. We're not only using is, sweetheart, we're organizing it.

:evilgrin:

[libnnc]

17. True that...

:yourock:

[sutz12]

15. The 'majority' was always a myth....

We know that. Some who have been in la-la land are starting wo wake up and see it.

[Nikki Stone1]

18. They misused the word "incredulous" (Sorry, one of my pet peeves)

......

[libnnc]

20. Well, I didn't want to interrupt their rant...

it would have been rude. We are in the South, you know.

[Nikki Stone1]

21. LOL!!

:D

[Swamp Rat]

29. LOL!!

I just looked at your profile; you're WAY North of me. We in Louisiana must be troglodytes by comparison. :D

Btw, I dig classical guitar. ;)

[libnnc]

31. I dig classical guitar too...

I wish I could play that way.

I just steal tired old licks from James Taylor :D

[Swamp Rat]

33. Nice!

Wish I knew a few of his tunes. I mostly play classical stuff and a little flamenco.

[babylonsister]

19. snortgigglesnort, how fun! Thanks! nt

[PBass]

22. I have some relatives who could fit this bill... lifelong Republicans, very well-to-do,

who absolutely hate Bush's policies, and hate what we're doing in Iraq.

[PatSeg]

62. That's because Bush ISN'T a real Republican

I was raised by Republicans and these guys do not represent the Republican party, at least the party that once was - small government, fiscal responsibility, etc. Traditional republicans opposed intervention in the affairs of other sovereign nations. This is a new party, a party of corporations, greed, and deception.

[blm]

64. Yep - FASCISTS who used the GOP for their inroads to official power and have snagged

some powerful Democrats they also use to move it further down the road when smiling faces are deemed necessary.

[flyarm]

23. its called the middle aged womens protested war...

the mean age/gender of those who have been protesting this war from the get go is ..women/age 50 and up..

from one of those 50+ who wears the designer glasses..purses and shoes to protests!!

fly

[goodgd_yall]

24. Where I come from

---a California Central Coast town---the over 50s are the most active in the anti-Iraq War/anti-Bush movement. And they have been protesting since the war started.

[Hekate]

28. Central Coast? I'm from Goleta. A belated welcome to DU.

:hi:

Hekate

[Le Taz Hot]

39. Ah hell, we've been protesting

since LONG before THIS war. I literally have a closet full of protest signs -- I don't even have to make new ones anymore (although I do).

Btw, LOVE the Central Coast. Just went to Cambria a couple of weeks ago. We took my MIL (visiting from Arkansas) to see the elephant seals at Piedras Blancas. She LOVED all of it.

[ronnykmarshall]

88. SLO??

My step mom lives in Atascadero and I believe one of the Gold Star Family founders with Cindy Sheehan is from Atascadero as well.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

45. And I'm a 50+ woman who always dressed business casual for protests

including a red blazer.

I've done so ever since I confronted a TV crew in Portland for concentrating on the teenagers with piercings and tattoos in an anti-war crowd where the majority of the protestors were in the 50-80 age range. (I was delighted that the teenagers were there, but angry at the reporter for reinforcing the stereotype that only "punk kids" are against Bush).

[goodgd_yall]

25. Some of my friends dress just like those 2 women

Not only are they anti-Bush and anti-War, they have no problem swearing like sailors when it comes to expressing their disgust with this administration.

[libnnc]

30. Well, here in NC it can be different...

you never can tell until they open their mouths.

I was very pleased, needless to say.

[goodgd_yall]

32. I do have to say, if my friends are wearing Gucci

they picked it up at a thrift store!

[Le Taz Hot]

41. LOL!

I can SOOOO relate. And make-up? Heals? Fagedaboutit.

[DemReadingDU]

36. In Ohio, there are still some die-hard Repubs

Some guy agreed that while things are not good with Bush, we would be a LOT worse if Kerry had been president. For one thing, this guy said that Kerry did not earn his medals. And another guy said Clinton was President on 9/11. With people like these, Bush need not worry about losing his base of supporters.

[orleans]

26. k&r n/t

[BlueIris]

27. Hee.

[Raine]

34. If you're in your 50's now you were of the 60's

generation so don't let a person's smooth look they may have now fool you! :hippie: ;-)

[mnhtnbb]

73. Amen. We also remember the style and class of Jackie...

as opposed to the Botoxed and plasticized Laura in her ill-fitting pants and too short jackets.

[in_cog_ni_to]

93. Ditto that! Born in 1955 here!

:hippie::smoke:

[TalkingDog]

35. Hey, I visit that Borders....

Iciban (yummm... sushi) is down the way.

This Friday night- Student/Faculty Art opening at Sawtooth School for Visual Arts in case you want to meet some of those liberal artist types. Also invited, of course, will be the "Gucci-Pucci" types.

See ya' around....





My favorite Future Famous Dead Artist: KarenParker

[lonestarnot]

37. woohoo.

[Le Taz Hot]

38. I turned my MIL on to KO

while she was here. She's absolutely HOOKED and said when she goes back home (Arkansas), she's going to tell all her friends (which are legion) about KO.

She also informed me that all of her friends who voted for Bush are now coming up to her and saying: "I wish I would have listened to you."

Now, if we can just get the Democrats to be an actual opposition party . . .

[smoogatz]

40. Please shop at your local independent bookseller.

Thank you. This has been a DU moment.

[Le Taz Hot]

43. What local independent bookseller?

There aren't any left. :cry: And there used to be half a dozen or so. That was BEFORE Borders, B & N & Amazon.com.

My friend and I were decrying the same problem with craft stores. We used to have several independents here. Then Michaels moved in and poof! No more independents. No more variety. EVERYING made in China. Thank the goddess for eBay.

[libnnc]

44. I shop there too...

I didn't do any shopping at Borders except to buy the fat assed iced mocha that I didn't really need. I was just bogarting their cool comfy chairs to catch up on my reading. I brought my used books with me.

This has been another DU moment

edit to add there's only one indy book store in W-S and they usually don't have what I need.... Most of the school related books I get from the other campus indy in Greensboro. I spend most of my jack for books there instead of at the B&N campus bookseller. :hi:

[Sapere aude]

42. I'll bet most of the assumptions about people that are made here at DU are not correct.

Maybe even mine I don't know. It is the one thing about a lot of DUers that turns me off of DU. The anti SUV, small penis, war monger, type of thing is bull shit and is really fucked up.

[TransitJohn]

46. Yep

The one that gets me the most is the dismissal of whole populations....Red Staters. Now that's fucked up. We are in the minority, but there are progressives and liberals here.

[CrispyQ]

49. This 2004 presidential election map never got much play except here on DU.

What a surprise, huh?



It places the winning party on the top of the state, but shows a proportionate amount of the opposition party votes. It shows clearly how divided our country is.




The media likes to use this map.

[blm]

65. I never saw that - THANKYOU for posting it!!!!

.

[Le Taz Hot]

119. Tell me about it.

Try being from Fresno. Even better, try going to the California forum and saying ANYTHING about Fresno. Holy goddess you'd think that we'd all just climbed out of the primordial slime. The geographical snobbery around here goes unchecked and seems to be perfectly acceptable.

[CrispyQ]

47. I'm guilty of it too.

I have a "Impeach Cheney First" sticker in the back window of my truck. A huge Dodge type truck pulled up behind me at a traffic signal & got full view of it. Later, when the road widened to two lanes he roared past me. I was expecting the bird, but he honked the horn & his passenger gave me a big smile & a thumbs up signal.

:D

:thumbsup:

ASSUME makes as ASS out of U and ME. ;)

[WilliamPitt]

66. That's why "assumption" starts with "ass."

:)

[rucognizant]

83. Absolutly.........

I learned at a real estate sales seminar, 28 years ago" Never assume anything; It just makes an.
............. ASS of U & ME!
It really bugs me about this society, people have a tendancy to assume; it's like the "sound bite" of social intercourse! We're too busy, too overloaded with information!
One reason that a lot of women over 50 are prominent, among the protestors.....We KNOW, what we had ( the leisure to sit take a deep breath, have a glass of iced tea , and do a bit of critical thinking, some part of EVERY day! ( I KNOW there were some women struggling at the time with a lot of children, or a sick or absent husband, ) Even as a single Mother raising 2 kids with out child support payments, I had that time! Before that, when the kids were small, we only needed 1/2 my husbands monthly income ( $60.00 per week) to pay our expenses, and could afford a cleaning woman once a week, and a nice weekend at the shore! We were just average middle class people!! During & After Reagan I did my own stints at housecleaning to help make ends meet!
Here in Maine, the Bangor Daily News publishes the election results town by town. The bigger, wealthier communities: Portland, Camden, Augusta, Bar Harbor......................had by far the larger number of Democratic votes in 2004. As you came downeast to the poorer communities, the Republican vote increased the father downesast you looked! My town chose Bush ( honestly) by 2 votes.
But their eyes are wide open now! I think Republican has been a habit/family tradition since Eisenhower, with no examination of why! They See with their own eyes the single Mother in a trailor down the road with 3 or 4 kids, living on state funds, they can't See the billions going to Iraq, Isreal, Columbia etc.!

[yardwork]

48. Winston-Salem, NC . Very conservative area. This IS good news.

Even the Democrats in Winston-Salem tend to be conservative. Very conservative representatives. This conversation shows a significant change. I very much doubt that these two women felt this way about * six years ago.

[mainer]

50. gucci-pucci ladies are often rabid anti-Bushies

so don't presume anything when you meet these ladies. Whenever I'm in NYC, the most pissed-off liberals I encounter are often 50+-year-old women in designer clothes. (Of course, I don't know what it's like in Winston-Salem.)

It's my experience, when I travel down south, that the most ardent Bush lovers are the middle-class ladies in Walmart.

[libnnc]

52. Just so you know, W-S is very, very conservative

"Camel City" as in R.J. Reynolds cigarettes...that's what the city is best known for.

Old GOP money is everywhere here. Not to mention the fact that we're in the south. Most different from NYC.

[mainer]

51. Also, Borders customers skew more liberal

they're in a bookstore, aren't they?

[sakabatou]

54. Wow...

:wow:

[JacquesMolay]

55. You're makin' that up...

... no one talks like that!

[libnnc]

57. The only reason I paid attention was because

they sounded so obnoxious when they first sat down. True story. :hi:

[flyarm]

103. OH THAT MAY BE A PLOY..EVERY WHERE I GO I AM LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS ABOUT LITTLE LORD PISSY PANTS!!

I EVEN FAKE TALKING ON MY cell PHONE LOUDLY ABOUT WHAT AN ASS HE IS AND HOW HE IS DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY...

and i do it everywhere so people can hear me!!...there is more than one way to skin a cat!!

we didn't get older and dumb...

i am always loud about what * is doing!! and i am damn obnoxious about it!!

and i get more and more people agreeing with me..and if they think i am talking on the cell phone, they usually give me thumbs up!! or they wait till they think i am not talking and they say stuff like..i couldn't agree more with you!!

the conservs shy away..or slink away ..like the gutless slime they are!!..oh i see them and i look right at them..boldly!!

but i am deliberately loud about how i feel!!

i want the world to know i disapprove ..and i want others to get the guts to speak out!! loudly!!

and i do it with my designer clothes on..in a restaurant, a store ..or even the grocery store!!

i will not shut up in public about little lord pissy pants..i feel like that is my stage!!

fly

[SayWhatYo]

101. I talk like that so that people post my conversations on the internet.

:P

[femrap]

56. I swear....everyone but the

Dems in the House gets it. We The People want them IMPEACHED NOW!

I'm writing the 23 Dems on the Judiciary Committee plus Pelosi AGAIN this weekend...found some note cards at TJ Maxx's with a TABLE on the front....Guess what I'll be putting on that TABLE....a huge IMPEACH NOW sign.

[RandomKoolzip]

59. I always find it odd to read anecdotes on DU about

"real life" wherein the participants act/speak exactly like stereotypes.

I mean, you ARE exaggerating how these two people spoke to each other, right? Nobody talks like that in real life.

And wow: 40 recommendations?! Man, is DU's bar set snake-low or what?

[libnnc]

63. I'm not exaggerating. That's why they caught my attention

I thought to myself when they first sat down "God please NOOO do not sit beside me!!" One woman was kinda loud when she first walked in...and I cringed but then I listened to what they were talking about and tried not to crack up...I wanted to join in their conversation but I didn't want to be rude and jump in. So I just observed. I

know it sounds phoney...you have to know this shopping center and this particular area to understand I guess.

[taterguy]

68. Sounds very plausible to me

I know we've had our differences in the past but I can vouch for the fact that your description sounds like a very typical night at that location.

[libnnc]

69. Thanks. You know Thruway...LOL

I'm on the "southside" Parkway Plaza is more our speed. My SO and I usually make fun of ourselves shopping at Thruway with the Buena Vista types.

Kinda hurts my feelings that some people think I'm full of shit but I guess that's DU...:shrug:

[taterguy]

77. I'm guessing Buena Vista types only go to Parkway Plaza for the Adam & Eve store :)

Sorry for the threadjack but I couldn't resist making that comment.

[libnnc]

78. LOL true that!

[redqueen]

60. Hahahahah... wonderful.

:)

Glad people are realizing Keith is the real deal.

As for impeachment... *sigh* please let it happen soon. Like the lady said, how much more can we take?

[ClassWarrior]

67. See what happens when you begin to visualize IMPEACHMENT?

B-)

Toll-free numbers below.

NGU.

[libnnc]

70. folks are talking...

That's all I'm trying to impart. :D

[bleedingheart]

71. When I am dressed professionally and out and about people assume I am a Republican

yet I am a bleedingheart liberal...and boy aren't they shocked...because typically it is the republicans who assume I am one of them...

So just because I have a nice handbag, beautiful jewelry (courtesy of 14 glorious years of being pampered by Mr. B) and dress well doesn't mean I can't be a liberal...

However 90% of the time I am wearing my garden gear and no jewelry and I am working on a computer in my basement...

[Oilwellian]

72. For Pete's sake....

Talk about put foot in mouth. I would bet there are many "very well dressed, very attractive older women" who are members of this board and, well what do you know!...some of us LOVE to "chatter" about golf. I'm one of them! If I didn't think you were young and naive, I would almost be insulted by your post. Here's a life lesson from an elder...never presume ANYTHING about a person's looks.

[libnnc]

75. You did read my entire post right?

The part where I wrote--


"COLOR ME A FIRST CLASS, PRESUMPTUOUS ASSHOLE JUMPER TO CONCLUSIONS WHO SHOULD BE COMPLETELY ASHAMED OF HERSELF......"

I hope you read that part.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE POST WAS TWO-FOLD

1. I'M A FIRST CLASS PRESUMPTUOUS ASSHOLE JUMPER TO CONCLUSIONS WHO SHOULD BE COMPLETELY ASHAMED OF HERSELF

2. PEOPLE...REGULAR, REAL LIVE PEOPLE, ARE IN PUBLIC ACTUALLY DISCUSSING IMPEACHMENT.


Is it clear now?

Edit to add for full disclosure I'll be 37 in September.

[BonnieJW]

74. I have a dear friend

and she and her husband are repubs. Not just ordinary repubs, but invited to the inaugural ball repubs. Get it? Very wealthy. They hate * and the entire administration and all the repubs in congress and the senate. They want them all in jail.

Maybe the repubs in congress have crossed over to the dark side, but that doesn't mean everyone has! The repubs in congress now are mostly fascists and do not merit the name republican.

[druidqueen]

79. Impeachment

I had a similar experience on July 3rd in Perkins Cove in
Ogunquit, Maine.  I live in south coastal Maine & work in
Kennebunk.  There I was, stopped in a full parking lot looking
for a space to park...me - 60 years old in my bright green
1994 Honda delSol convertible -  with numerous bumper stickers
on my car's rear bumper(Impeach Bush; End This War; I think,
therefore I am a  Democrat; Jesus was a liberal, now what IS
your point?; & Blessed on the peacemakers for they shall
be called children of God)and THREE big SUVs from out of state
stopped & opened the windows to chat...I thought here it
comes -  some well-to-repubs spending big bucks on a Maine
vacation ready to argue,,,,but NO  each and everyone had
positive comments:  "Let's impeach his ass today!!",
the next car.."We can't wait until tomorrow to impeach
him, we have to do it now!!" and the third vehicle: 
"We've got to get rid of the bastard & throw he and
Cheney in jail!"

We all need to contact our congressional reps & tell them
WE THE PEOPLE have spoken...get on with IMPEACHMENT.

[catmandu57]

80. The word is spreading and catching on in places

where one wouldn't think it, I've heard many stories of recovering republicans, and tales of buyer remorse. Inside the beltway I don't think they've caught on to just how widespread the anti* feeling is, they probably won't catch up until next year when the begging begins in ernest.
I hope by then the new broom feelings are so strong it will sweep the dinos out as well, and drive a stake through the heart of the monster.

[JBear]

81. Winston-Salem?!?!?

And they keep telling us there is hope...Thanks!

:bounce:

[AZBlue]

84. As I've said all along about the Gucci Pucci types:

don't make assumptions about the rich and wealthy just based upon the assholes in the Bush administration. Rich is not an ugly word. Bush is also a brunette - should we label all brunettes as jerks too?

[mainer]

108. So are Walmart shoppers down there Democrats?

Just wondering if everything's opposite in the south.

[AZBlue]

121. (A) I don't live in the south; (B) that doesn't make any sense;

(C) you think no Dems shop at WalMart??

[Katherine Brengle]

85. lmao that rocks

[ronnykmarshall]

87. I have such a visual of that.

and I love it!

[NotGivingUp]

89. Hey, a feel-good story! Thanks! nt

[swimmernsecretsea]

90. Yeah, Keith! Brought some more ladies into the fold!

Remember the Al Gore meme that was going around? (Superman wears an Al Gore suit, etc.) We should start one for Keith Olbermann!

[libnnc]

91. Instead of sending Keith ties we should send him a couple of capes.

I've already emailed him twice telling him his commentaries will save the nation.

[onehandle]

92. CBS needs to hire Keith to replace Couric.

It would be smart to place an actual journalist in that role.

[AnnieBW]

94. It's official

the base has left *.

[David Zephyr]

95. The first clue was that they were in a "book store".

The 26% that still support Bush read only one book: the bible.

[SayWhatYo]

102. You can buy the bible at Borders :P

[awoke_in_2003]

112. "You can buy the bible at Borders "

Yeah, but repubs never read the Bible at Border's- too many people laugh at them when they have to move their lips while reading :)

[njtechguy]

96. ummmmm

i have family and friends that would all fit the exact description you just mentioned, and they are all proud democrats who hate Bush.

no one should stereotype by race, religion, sex, etc....and what you did was just the same.

[libnnc]

97. did you read the part where I said I was an asshole for doing that?

Christ. I was trying to make a couple of points.

[njtechguy]

99. i did

and just because their conversation went like it did you felt like an asshole. now if they had talked about those sunglasses or maybe a golf outing....you would have not felt that way, and for all you know they may have been going to some progressive rally after.

[libnnc]

100. forget it. I'm locking this thread anyway.

[libnnc]

98. Can I get the mods to lock this thread?

It is obvious that there are some here who choose not to read what I actually wrote and I'm sick and tired of trying to point it out to them.

[flyarm]

104. nooo i think this is a wonderful thread!!! please don't!!

i think it is wonderful to have this conversation!!

young and older..we have so much to share!!...

and i respect your thread!!

i always get the looks when i go to dem events ( protests or campaign stuff) because i dress to the hilt...

why?????? because in my life that is who i am!!

as a delegate for my state i heard the media say over and over..dems dress like slobs..blah blah blah..blah blah blah..and when i was at the convention in 2004..many media took my picture because i was dressed to the hilt..in fact my delegation was right below calif..and alot of calif delegates said they voted me best dressed..well honestly, it was the way i always dress...but i heard the media repeat the same bullshit over and over...and i decided right then..they had us all sterotyped..

and i was going to break that sterotype..

they sterotype us as all this, or that..well i am who i am..and i will always be who i am...

i will not dress up or down for anyone who wants to think they can pigeonhole me ..i will always dress they way i do for anything i go to ...

we are who we are!!

so if you see a lady at a protest all dressed up..in designer stuff..it may be me ..or it may not be..

but i will be loud ..and i will be determined to stop these sob's in this white house..and i will be determined to take my country back from these fascists!!

fly

[troubleinwinter]

117. I'm with flyarm!

Well, not in designer clothes(!), but in enjoying the thread.

You have helped us to know that all kinds of Americans are getting on the same page.

You needn't bother to keep addressing the people who want to divert your thread. Ignore 'em. And keep the thread!

[mainer]

106. Walmart, not Gucci, more likely to be Republicans

at least that's what I've gathered, looking at the bumperstickers in the Walmart parking lot.

[libnnc]

107. For the fourth time...maybe where you are but not in W-S, NC

This is a very conservative, conventional city that was built with GOP Big Tobacco money (about 30 years behind Charlotte).

[mainer]

109. so are Walmart shoppers down there Democrats?

And Gucci ladies Republicans? Is everything opposite down there in the south?

[libnnc]

110. Jesus....in this particular rich part of town there are a lot of

luxury cars with Bush/Cheney/Burr/Dole stickers. Not every republican in the south is strapped for cash.

[GenDem]

111. I had a similar experience

Only for me it was in the VERY Republican town one over from where I live. I was teaching an after school art class in a community center there, and the ladies on the other side of the divider were taking a Pilates class. When they were done working out, I over heard all of the rumblings. I wanted to jump the partition and join in.

We are a minority no more. Happy days. Now it's up to the Congress.

[Jim Lane]

113. But the key question about these "Gucci Pucci" types is....

are they eligible for membership in the Keith Olbermann Estrogen Brigade?

[troubleinwinter]

114. My (78) dad...

I 'turned him on' to KO in early November. He has his TV set to AUTOMATICALLY switch to the show at the proper time ever since.

Now when he calls me, he says "Did you see Keith's Special Comments last night?!", or "I gotta go now, Keith is about to come on." or "Well, hopefully Keith is back from vacation!"

I sent him a link to Al Gore's 1/16/2006 speech a few months ago. (http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096 only the RealV works... Al starts 10 mins. in) I sorta doubted he'd watch it on the computer. He called me the next day, saying he'd watched the entire thing and said, "By his own words, he MUST run."

Guess who bought me a copy of The Assault On Reason at the bookstore on day one as a surprise. But he bought HIMSELF one first, I was an afterthought.

Guess who has read it all.

He watched Al's speech when I suggested it, because his favorite show is Keith Olbermann.

He does say that KO reminds him of Edward R. Murrow. He says it is a breath of fresh air to hear someone talk the truth.

[nadinbrzezinski]

115. GOOD

and yes you are right keethie is on, well almost