Wiccan Warriors discussion of the Bill of Rights...7th Amendment

[Wiccan Warrior]

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.



Ok trial by jury is a great thing to have, but what would scare me most of going to court and have a trial by jury is one thing you can't trust the jury either, last thing I would want is 12 people who don't want to be there and will do anything to go home early. Some people on a jury just don't care...unless it happens to them then they know what they are in for so I guess what goes around will come around. I hope. Then we would have proven cases of innocent being sentenced.

[Marrah_G]

1. I would always want the choice

Think of the damage one bad judge could have. Juries change with each trial. What they need to do is stop allowing the lawyers on both sides to stack the juries.

[Wiccan Warrior]

3. Exactly Jury tampering is a HUGE deal

even when dealing with high profile companies they have people paid to tamper with them....The Runaway Jury is not just a good movie things like that happen and it's not comforting especially when a judge can be compromised and also if it's election season WATCH OUT you will be likely found guilty of anything to get the conviction rate up.

[Marrah_G]

8. The solution is to fix the parts of the system that are broken,

rather then trashing the whole thing.

Just my two cents.

[bryant69]

2. Well you have to look at the alternatives

Having the judges act as magistrates, deciding themselves? That has some advantages - Judges understand the law and they are compensated enough that they probably want to be there. On the other hand they are likely not to be as impartial as a jury. They will be part of the power elite in their community; and it would ensure that all cases got heard a certain way, instead of the Jury system which ensures that there is variety in how cases are heard.

Bryant
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[Wiccan Warrior]

4. Actually I have found in experiences

that Judges may be familiar with some laws, but they don't know it all like they would have you think.

[Somawas]

5. The 7th Amendment

is about civil actions. Nobody gets "sentenced."

[Wiccan Warrior]

6. EVEN IN CIVIL you can't trust having a Jury that's the whole point. n/t

[TechBear_Seattle]

7. Trust the jury about what?

The one and only function of the jury is to determine whether or not the facts of the case are sufficient for the charge being levelled. The purpose of a jury trial is to present the relevant facts, and only the relevant facts, to a group of people with no vested interest in the outcome of the case. If they find that the facts sufficiently support the charge, they return a verdict of guilty. Otherwise, the verdict is not guilty.

Why should you not trust a jury? Or a better question, who would you trust more to determine if the facts of the situation merit the charges being made?