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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 03:59 AM
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OMFG: Judge Mark E Fuller (Siegelman, Scrushy) GOV. Contracts: Training Saudis and Iranians to Fly
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 04:00 AM by MagickMuffin
I posted this in another thread, but decided it should have it's own thread.

I started doing research on Judge Fuller when I came upon this jewel. Apparently Fuller has been working deep within our government as well as being a judge, he has been training pilots...

http://www.locustfork.net/blog/jill_simpsons_affidavit/...

I've just started reading it. Jill Simpson's Affidavit May Help Justice Prevail in the Siegelman, Scrushy Case
It also lifts the veil on how politics subverts justice and dirty tricks sully politics... Jill is the woman who had her house burned down.

This is a five part series. Goes into very detailed history of Fuller, Riley, and Rove....

There is also her affidavit at http://www.locustfork.net/blog/jill_simpsons_affidavit/...

HOLY SHIT, check this out:

But eventually she put together such a revealing picture of a very rich federal judge who owned companies doing millions upon millions of dollars worth of business with the U.S. government, including making uniforms for the FBI and training Saudi and Iranian pilots - all while doing business with the Justice Department in eliminating Siegelman from politics forever.

Amazingly, Justice Fuller received a $178 million contract through a privately held company to train pilots and navigators for the U.S. government DURING THE SIEGELMAN, SCRUSY TRIAL. The company is called Doss Aviation of Alabama.

For another company called Aureus International that is listed as a division of Doss Aviation on the company's Website, Fuller is also listed as the majority owner, according to Ms. Simpson's research. The company does a comparable amount of business making uniforms for the U.S. military and the FBI, which played a major role in the investigation and prosecution of Siegelman and Scrushy.
:wow:

Check out the GOV contracts he's getting:
http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?parent_id=8543...

2000 $11,736,314
2001 $9,993,378
2002 $8,376,574
2003 $11,333,293
2004 $23,828,933
2005 $26,854,524
2006 $25,184,67 *Note: FY 2006 does not include data from some agencies.

edit: to include more research data on the judge Fuller

Does anyone have the same gut feeling about judge Fuller training Saudis and Iranians to fly?!?
Or that he makes uniforms for the FBI, and the US military???

Did judge Fuller's company train ANY of the Saudis that FLEW PLANES INTO BUILDINGS on SEPTEMBER 11, 2001????:shrug:

I will add more to this thread to keep it kicked....

If anyone thinks this is a bombshell then please rec&kick, TIA




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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:05 AM
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1. Kicking and recommending...
:wtf::wow::wtf:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:19 AM
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5. Here's some more info about the '02 election
How the 2002 Election Was Stolen in Bay Minette

In late October and early November of 2002, the Rileys started calling Ms. Simpson back to get her help in the event of a close election, her phone records confirm. And on election-day Nov. 5, the race was razor-close.

When the poll workers and the press left the courthouses of Alabama that Tuesday night, Siegelman was declared the winner statewide. But the race was not to be over and would come down to a few thousand questionable votes in Baldwin County in South Alabama.

Siegelman received 19,070 votes in Baldwin County and beat Riley by 3,139 votes there. And he won statewide by an initial count showing him with 674,052 to Rileys 670,913 - a margin of 3,139 votes, the closest ever reported in an Alabama election.

But sometime during the night after everyone else went home, a Riley campaign worker by the name of Dan Gans - who had served as Riley’s chief of staff both in Montgomery and Washington and went on to work with the Alexander Strategy Group, which has been repeatedly implicated in the Abramoff corrupt lobbying scandal - set up a laptop computer in the Baldwin County courthouse and changed the results, sources say. (Other sources say it was not Dan Gans, but another Riley aide. A Congressional investigation could get to the bottom of this).

In other words, he committed "electronic ballot stuffing" by changing the vote totals digitally, subtracting 6,334 votes from the Siegelman column.

Gans bills himself as a Republican “voting technology expert" and brags on a now defunct Website about his role in implementing "a state of the art ballot security system that was critical to securing Governor-elect Rileys narrow margin of victory (3,120 votes)."

http://www.locustfork.net/blog/jill_simpsons_affidavit/how_the_2002_election_was_stol.html

Could the "other" Riley aide been Toby Roth??? Roth is close to Rove

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000257

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 02:20 AM
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31. This deserves its own thread, for sure.
Every tree we bark up has a cat.
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:09 AM
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2. I could be wrong, but Scrusy is behind a huge HMO. If indeed it is the Scrusy a
CPA in Alabama used to talk with me about.

Wowza, if this guy is one and the same. Very not nice person.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:21 AM
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6. He worked for Health South
I don't know a lot about him, but I'm getting an education in a hurry...

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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:32 AM
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7. Scrushy was founder and CEO of HealthSouth
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 04:45 AM by Syrinx
K/R.

Very interesting stuff!

EDIT: Scrushy probably deserves to be in prison, but not for this case involving Siegelman. Instead, for the ENRON, Worldcom style fraud that he engineered at HealthSouth.
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:18 AM
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12. Bingo, he was not an employee, he was the founder. Oh the tales I could tell.
Better yet, the CPA I know that could. He used to spend hours with me on the phone talking about this guy.

Yep, prison for the HealthSouth deal.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:10 AM
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3. KNR
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:13 AM
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4. kick
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:34 AM
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8. More Puzzle Pieces
Simpson affidavit, provides a detailed specific account of what transpired, starting with Bill Canary’s statement “not to worry about Don Siegelman that ‘his girls would take care of him.’

Then Riley’s son asked Canary if he was sure that Siegelman would be “taken care of,” and Canary told him not to worry that he had already gotten it worked out with Karl and Karl had spoken with the Department of Justice and the Department of Justice was already pursuing Don Siegelman.”

“His girls” were Canary’s wife Leura Canary, who as U.S. Attorney in the Middle District of Alabama, did in fact start the investigation, only dropping off when objections were raised by Governor Siegelman’s counsel due to her obvious political bias and the U.S. Attorney in Birmingham Alice Martin.

Ms. Simpson, who gave the affidavit, is a lifelong Republican and was a worker in the Riley campaign against Siegelman, and her account has been contemporaneously corroborated – all facts the News reporters have also suppressed. The statements denying the affidavit are extremely vague “non-recollections,” are unsworn, and in a law court would count for absolutely nothing.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000257

Boy the puzzle is starting to come together.


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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:49 AM
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10. Abramoff and Riley connections:
Governor Riley - the McCain report found that millions of dollars from the Choctaw Indians came into Alabama during the 2002 governor’s race – a fact denied by Riley until the report was released.

In emails released by the Senate, former Riley congressional staffer Michael Scanlon partnered with Jack Abramoff to funnel Choctaw Indian funds into the 2002 Alabama Governor’s race, supporting Riley. The report contained emails detailing conversation regarding the 2002 race in which Abramoff tells Scanlon that he has been in touch with “Nell” (Nell Rogers) of the Choctaws and “had it not been for what you did in Alabama, we would have had to spend millions in Alabama over the next four years.”

The conversation then details what “Nell” wanted Riley to do in return for the “help” he had received. The email states Rogers made it clear that she “definitely wants Riley to shut down the Porch Creek operation.” The Alabama Porch Creek Indians were competitors of the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians. Subsequently, Riley met with Attorney General John Ashcroft about the Porch Creek Indians, and Alabama Attorney General Troy King wrote a letter on behalf of Riley to the Department of the Interior requesting denial of Porch Creek Indians request for Class III gaming. A commission to evaluate the Porch Creek application for Class III (table game) license was created.
And who should be appointed to that commission but William Canary’s “girl” and U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Alabama, Leura Canary?

There are also unmistakable signs of corruption surrounding the Montgomery statehouse – it’s not Siegelman’s corruption, but rather that of his successor and opponent. Indeed, it seems very closely tied to the people who claimed to have launched an effort to “get” Siegelman, using the authority of Karl Rove and his reach deep into the Department of Justice. And at this point it’s simply impossible to dismiss these claims as hollow boasts – we have the sworn testimony of eight former U.S. attorneys saying just the opposite. And just think about it - while one tentacle of the Abramoff scandal, which is the subject of press coverage all around the world, was flailing about wildly in the Alabama political scene, the U.S. Attorneys in Alabama ignore it and instead pour massive resources into its victim.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000257

Casino Jack Abramoff, Mark Scanlon, Riley's COS as well as Tom BugBoy DeLay's; Dan Gans the vote rigger for Riley. This is HUGE!

Hopefully Rep. Conyers will be able to use some of this info since he is wanting to investigate this GOP scandal concerning Siegelman....



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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:19 PM
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26. What a gang of thugs eh? Vote Rigging, graft, murder and more?
Just in a single degree of separation, if you include the Gus Boulis (sp?) murder and the Casino boat that Atta and buddies met...well, just saying, it's a small small world!:wtf:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:39 AM
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9. K&R
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:52 AM
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11. A little KICK, before I go
I need a short break but will continue with the research when I am rested....

over and out

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:23 AM
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13. k&r
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 06:37 AM
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14. Ross/Doss Aviation made millions training military pilots for Viet Nam
I know. My "C-Phase" (multi-ingine/instrument) instructor was a Ross/Doss Aviation civilian.
They started off as Ross Aviation in the 1960s. Ross lost the contract while I was in flight school, but the same people and the same company were back the very next day as Doss Aviation. Small world, eh?



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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:54 AM
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15. I was an instrument flight/multi-eng. instructor at Ross '67 & '68.
We flew Beech Barons out of Cairns.
Wondered about the similarity in names, Ross-Doss.
Interesting, thanks.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:48 AM
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19. Yep. Cairns AAF, Ft. Rucker
T-42A


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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:17 AM
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20. 'Atsa my crate!
Only recip I ever flew.
Very stable and forgiving.
Great on one engine.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:44 AM
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25. A Ross/Doss IP and three students were killed one night at Cairns...
Cairns Approach stacked up a bunch of T-42s over the outer marker during recovery ops one rainy, foggy night. They were on the inbound leg to the OM at 5000 feet when they were cleared for the approach. Rather than descend in the holding pattern, they went for the gold. Their high-dive for the glide-slope (oh yes, they intercepted it! Probably at 400'agl with very high rate of descent) resulted in a smoking hole in the south Alabama sand soil and scrub pine within the boundaries of Cairns AAF.

BTW: An acquaintance of mine from the old airline now sells reconditioned Army T-42s somewhere in Tennessee. I ran into a surgeon from Tennessee down at Grayton Beach who was flying one of those old crates.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:55 AM
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16. There are many layers to this thing. Thanks for your contribution.
I've been trying to get the story out for days.
The Locust Fork website seems to have the best info, but it even made my little small town bi-weekly Wednesday.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:58 AM
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17. I was in submarine school with Iranians back in '77
They had barracks right next to mine in Groton, Connecticut.

What's ironic is that after I graduated Submarine School and was assigned to a sub in Pearl I married a Navy Yeoman who worked at CINCPACFLT. Within a month or two of our marriage, she went to 12 on 12 off because of the Iranian hostage crisis.

It was weird to go from a schoolmate of an Iranian to a "sworn" enemy.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:59 AM
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18. kick
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:23 AM
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21. holy shit... i want to do an article on it...
but we have to take this off radar fast if i am to work on it... there are very good reasons for investigations to be conducted off radar. can you email me? also,m if interested, ask mod to delete thread for now... and hope that no one related to this mess has seen it yet.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:26 AM
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22. Wow. Great find MM!
Nominated.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:26 AM
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23. Well, here's a big "hmmmmm"
and a kick.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:50 AM
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24. k & r
:kick:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 03:13 PM
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27. Thank you for this work. MUCH to read!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:30 PM
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28. My hat's off to you!!! This is real news, well presented, and highly relevant.

K*R

I'm just thinking, this is, on it's face, a huge conflict of interest. Lets ask, who are the
agency heads and contract officers for this judge? How could any reasonable person NOT
conclude the following:

1) the judge is biased toward the federal government since he does business with the government;

2) the judge is biased toward the political party and partisans in the federal government because
"doing favors" for friends results more business from the entity that they control.
This point is supported by the numerous changes in federal procurement allowing multi billion contract
awards on a sole source basis, e.g., Katrina contracts, Iraq contracts.


Therefore, the ability to be nosed out by another firm doing favors, while you restrain, is simple
incentive to do favors.

What's the biggest favor this judge could have done for *? He could let him off the hook in a nasty
law suit against the federal government and White House, one that would have seen the president
subpoenaed.

"Here comes the judge" - "ah I love the smell of the judge, smells like victory."
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 06:35 PM
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29. Another kick!
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:16 PM
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30. Top-notch work MagickMuffin! K&R, nt
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 02:34 AM
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32. k&r
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